boos@#newduck, newduck, duckgoosie. darcy regier lays the hammer on the armia pick, is now offering vanek and armia for ryan atraight up

boos@#flyersswissdefense. homer desperate says matt read is available. wants tj brennan along with leopold. darcy says must be sekera not leopold. wants a 3rd rounder if leo in mix.


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- b0s0o1

actually, it was around not too long before the trade deadline. Then Gagner scored 11 points in 2 games and it quieted down until a little more recently.
- HonkFortheGoose

yeah...the Gagner rumor was, but not us using that deal to get Ryan.

I'm sorry that the idea of getting Ryan and a 2C excites me and gives me something to talk about

yeah...the Gagner rumor was, but not us using that deal to get Ryan.

I'm sorry that the idea of getting Ryan and a 2C excites me and gives me something to talk about
- Sabres2012CUP

We're giving up a 2C to get him, and getting a guy who, in my opinion has less upside than Ennis for the 2C role.

This is what we've been trying to get you to do. Post why you like the rumors and stuff. See how it starts a conversation?

Again, not calling you out, just giving some constructive criticism.

yeah...the Gagner rumor was, but not us using that deal to get Ryan.

I'm sorry that the idea of getting Ryan and a 2C excites me and gives me something to talk about
- Sabres2012CUP

I'm with you man I'd love both of those moves. I like Gagner a lot and I think getting Ryan would be that signature move we've all been waiting for

flyboys are counting on schenn to log second-pairing minutes when he was a #6/7 in toronto...(oh, that's right...playing with his brother will make all the difference...

if flyboys go into season with this defense, forward group will be worn out by the trade deadline from playing defense all the time
- b0s0o1

Considering up until last year Schenn had already proven on multiple occasions he's capable of playing 20+ minutes a night. He's not going to be playing for one of the most unorthodox coaches on the planet, and will be able to strictly play his game under Laviolette. He'll find his confidence again in no time.

I'll take the "risk"

We're giving up a 2C to get him, and getting a guy who, in my opinion has less upside than Ennis for the 2C role.

This is what we've been trying to get you to do. Post why you like the rumors and stuff. See how it starts a conversation?

Again, not calling you out, just giving some constructive criticism.
- HonkFortheGoose

Ya gotta give to get Goose, I don't think losing Ennis and replacing him with Gagner is a huge downgrade especially if it leads to us aquiring Ryan. I like Ennis a ton but I also think we are all not going to like the price he's going to want here.

Ya gotta give to get Goose, I don't think losing Ennis and replacing him with Gagner is a huge downgrade especially if it leads to us aquiring Ryan.
- sabresfandan

The other problem I have with this trade is where Ryan gets put. If you're moving out D and a center, what space do we have on the wing for Ryan?

You've already got Vanek/Pommer, Foligno/Staff, Gerbe/Leino, Kaleta/McCormick and then guys like Tropp waiting for space.

yeah...the Gagner rumor was, but not us using that deal to get Ryan.

I'm sorry that the idea of getting Ryan and a 2C excites me and gives me something to talk about
- Sabres2012CUP

I would be all about Gagner as a 2nd line center...... cheaper then Stastny and would get the job done.

Then Trade Ennis for Bobby Ryan.

"Sabres front office" guy does make some sense.... i know sabres2012cup you copy and paste some of his tweets. i read through the stuff he says .... its not bad! He is the only one that mentioned that wild / leopold for Cullen or bozak.

Then compared Ennis points per game to skinner as to why ennis wants 4.5 mil

so we will see what happens!

umm....the Edmonton rumor hasn't been around for very long

edit: why do you insist on calling me out and commenting on everything I post???
- Sabres2012CUP

She gets like this sometimes... Like he is the bouncer od the blog or something...

It was me a month or so ago and i ended up getting banned for it..

I'd rather keep Ennis. I'll pass on Gagner. I don't think he has much higher of a ceiling than what we've already seen.
- HonkFortheGoose

I think Gagner would be perfect for our "youth movement", especially if we only have to give up Sekera and Pysyk.

Remember that Ganer is only 22 years old (Derek Roy wasn't even in the NHL yet at 22yrs old)...

Gagner is the same age as Codey Hodgson, and has had better NHL stats than Hodgson to this point.

Now if you want to put togeather a group of promising young center talent... Hodgson, Grigorenko, Girgensons, and Gagner would certainly fit the bill.

Kick Ennis back over to wing and he's a great young skilled forward. Factor in Foligno, Armia, and possibly even Gerbe and Luke Adam... and now you're looking at a lot of young potential for the future.

I would be all about Gagner as a 2nd line center...... cheaper then Stastny and would get the job done.

Then Trade Ennis for Bobby Ryan.

"Sabres front office" guy does make some sense.... i know sabres2012cup you copy and paste some of his tweets. i read through the stuff he says .... its not bad! He is the only one that mentioned that wild / leopold for Cullen or bozak.

Then compared Ennis points per game to skinner as to why ennis wants 4.5 mil

so we will see what happens!
- buffalofan1027

Where does that sabres front office twitter come up??

I think Gagner would be perfect for our "youth movement", especially if we only have to give up Sekera and Pysyk.

Remember that Ganer is only 22 years old (Derek Roy wasn't even in the NHL yet at 22yrs old)...

Gagner is the same age as Codey Hodgson, and has had better NHL stats than Hodgson to this point.

Now if you want to put togeather a group of promising young center talent... Hodgson, Grigorenko, Girgensons, and Gagner would certainly fit the bill.

Kick Ennis back over to wing and he's a great young skilled forward. Factor in Foligno, Armia, and possibly even Gerbe and Luke Adam... and now you're looking at a lot of young potential for the future.
- SuperCat

Ennis gets us Ryan

The other problem I have with this trade is where Ryan gets put. If you're moving out D and a center, what space do we have on the wing for Ryan?

You've already got Vanek/Pommer, Foligno/Staff, Gerbe/Leino, Kaleta/McCormick and then guys like Tropp waiting for space.
- HonkFortheGoose

You find room for a guy like Bobby Ryan that's the bottom line without question.

Where does that sabres front office twitter come up??
- sabresfandan

not sure what you mean, but I saw one of his tweets today that said his source is a friend in the Sabres organization with a "nice job" to say the least

I think Gagner would be perfect for our "youth movement", especially if we only have to give up Sekera and Pysyk.

Remember that Ganer is only 22 years old (Derek Roy wasn't even in the NHL yet at 22yrs old)...

Gagner is the same age as Codey Hodgson, and has had better NHL stats than Hodgson to this point.

Now if you want to put togeather a group of promising young center talent... Hodgson, Grigorenko, Girgensons, and Gagner would certainly fit the bill.

Kick Ennis back over to wing and he's a great young skilled forward. Factor in Foligno, Armia, and possibly even Gerbe and Luke Adam... and now you're looking at a lot of young potential for the future.
- SuperCat

Ennis is young as well. I think they're the same age, if only a year apart. Why can't Ennis fit into that group any differently than Gagner?

not sure what you mean, but I saw one of his tweets today that said his source is a friend in the Sabres organization with a "nice job" to say the least
- Sabres2012CUP

does that twitter account come up through google?

Ennis is young as well. I think they're the same age, if only a year apart. Why can't Ennis fit into that group any differently than Gagner?
- HonkFortheGoose

cause Ennis is who ANA wants and Ennis wants to be overpaid

She gets like this sometimes... Like he is the bouncer od the blog or something...

It was me a month or so ago and i ended up getting banned for it..
- JVince11

You got banned because you started calling names. Not because we were arguing. And no, I didn't report you. They caught you all on your own.

does that twitter account come up through google?
- sabresfandan

i dont think so...its still young

cause Ennis is who ANA wants and Ennis wants to be overpaid
- Sabres2012CUP

The overpaid thing always seems to come up with the young guys when they want new contracts. We all thought Roy was getting overpaid when he signed his current contract, and look how that worked out. That contract is currently a steal for the type of production we got out of him.

I think Gagner would be perfect for our "youth movement", especially if we only have to give up Sekera and Pysyk.

Remember that Ganer is only 22 years old (Derek Roy wasn't even in the NHL yet at 22yrs old)...

Gagner is the same age as Codey Hodgson, and has had better NHL stats than Hodgson to this point.

Now if you want to put togeather a group of promising young center talent... Hodgson, Grigorenko, Girgensons, and Gagner would certainly fit the bill.

Kick Ennis back over to wing and he's a great young skilled forward. Factor in Foligno, Armia, and possibly even Gerbe and Luke Adam... and now you're looking at a lot of young potential for the future.
- SuperCat

Gagners maturation is almost identical to Stephen Weiss. Their also very, very similar players. Play the game almost exactly the same. Weiss didn't develop as a stud defensive player until later on, something Gagner is slowly but surely doing himself. Only difference? Weiss is a tremendously better skater.

People that say Gagners topped out at 22 years old are hilarious. 2nd most productive player from his draft behind Patrck Kane and has yet to play on a decent team thus far.

i dont think so...its still young
- Sabres2012CUP

send the link if you can.

send the link if you can.
- sabresfandan

https://twitter.com/SabresFront

this good?

edit: yeah thats good

Gagners maturation is almost identical to Stephen Weiss. Their also very, very similar players. Play the game almost exactly the same. Weiss didn't develop as a stud defensive player until later on, something Gagner is slowly but surely doing himself. Only difference? Weiss is a tremendously better skater.

People that say Gagners topped out at 22 years old are hilarious. 2nd most productive player from his draft behind Patrck Kane and has yet to play on a decent team thus far.
- mochoson

Yeah I agree I think Gagner would fit in great here, the kid has talent and is still only 22.

Yeah I agree I think Gagner would fit in great here, the kid has talent and is still only 22.
- sabresfandan

yeah...I really hope we do this Gagner/Ryan trade. It will help so much in the long run...IMO