Reading comprehension? Keep making poop up
- burn

I love when guys like u come on here. Don't even have the balls to admit to what you said. Says plenty about you.

I love when guys like u come on here. Don't even have the balls to admit to what you said. Says plenty about you.
- Bieksa#3

I like when guys like you make up stuff and don't have to balls to admit that they made it up. Says plenty about you.

I posted this earlier. Burn, you made this post July 27 on offer Friday PG 9. Is this anything like gms saying Kessel is better then Kesler? Looks like you got even less balls then Kessel Go ahead and deny saying it
- Bieksa#3

I said he was OUR #1 center, not that he was considered a true #1. Way to go. Clueless reading comprehension. I've already explained this, I don't know if I can dumb it down any more for you. Keep up the good work. Got any more nonsense you care to make up??

It's nothing like saying Kessel is better than Kesler, because unlike the other thing this is exactly what I said. Congratulations on getting something right! But yeah, it's true, as much as you don't want to accept/believe it.

Nope you said he was your #1 center, not he is playing #1 center. Just get the Dr to attach some balls for you so you can man up and admit what you said
- Bieksa#3

Nope> I said he's OUR #1 center right now. I explained it later on in the thread.

Several times I said he's OUR..... not that is is a true #1, or that he's our best. Just that he's playing that role right now because we have no one else for it.

Keep making poop up..

bozak is not a #1 center. Grab is better and so is JVR.
- Bieksa#3

he's our #1 right now.
- burn

Honestly Grabo is our # C, he just happens to play on the 2nd line because he is a puck carrier. Bozak is on the first line by default and is there because Kessel like to carry the puck. Would not make sense to have Grabo center that line
- Leafs24seven

Thank tips, he's our first line Center.
- burn

well which is it? Earlier you implied he was our #1 center which he is not...we can all agree he is our first line center because that is where he plays
- Leafs24seven

That's what I said?
- burn

The guy that disagreed with me even agreed :".we can all agree he is our first line center because that is where he plays".

Nope> I said he's OUR #1 center right now. I explained it later on in the thread.

Several times I said he's OUR..... not that is is a true #1, or that he's our best. Just that he's playing that role right now because we have no one else for it.

Keep making poop up..
- burn

I'm sure you maybe have said it before that Bozak isn't a #1 center. But in the post I quoted you most clearly said he is your #1 center. Nothing is being made up Just be a man and admit what you said and stop the cry baby routine. Keep up the trolling

I'm sure you maybe have said it before that Bozak isn't a #1 center. But in the post I quoted you most clearly said he is your #1 center. Nothing is being made up Just be a man and admit what you said and stop the cry baby routine. Keep up the trolling
- Bieksa#3

He's playing on the first line with Kessel?? Yeah he's our 1st line center. Good god.

I'm sure you maybe have said it before that Bozak isn't a #1 center. But in the post I quoted you most clearly said he is your #1 center. Nothing is being made up Just be a man and admit what you said and stop the cry baby routine. Keep up the trolling
- Bieksa#3

Who's crying?? All I said is that what you said I said wasn't factual, since proven repeatedly with facts.

So we're right back at it hey Leafs vs Canucks

"our #1 center" nothing about playing #1 center As I stated earlier you may have said at other times that he wasn't. But the fact is you did say Bozak was your #1 center, yet keep denying it. Just go get some balls and admit what you clearly said. Perhaps you made a mistake? I starting to think that mistakes are common in your family.
- Bieksa#3

Same thing?? You're trying to turn it into something it's not. He's OUR #1 right now.

So we're right back at it hey Leafs vs Canucks
- LeftCoaster

No sense in changing things now.

Same thing?? You're trying to turn it into something it's not. He's OUR #1 right now.
- burn

awesome

"our #1 center" nothing about playing #1 center As I stated earlier you may have said at other times that he wasn't. But the fact is you did say Bozak was your #1 center, yet keep denying it. Just go get some balls and admit what you clearly said. Perhaps you made a mistake? I starting to think that mistakes are common in your family.
- Bieksa#3

Amazing logic

awesome
- Bieksa#3

The end point was that what you were presenting is lies. It was not real. It is skewed to make what you want as fact believable.



Those are real years...and consecutive years at that...Wayne Gretzky. Think you may have heard of him. It is not hard to get stats to show a wide variety of scoring totals without resorting to fake numbers. But I do not think that anyone would have said Gretzky was inconsistent.
- OilHorse

You still don't get it, it is only about CONSISTENCY, real , imaginary, it doesn't matter. The point of the exercise was to determine what Burn's concept of the word was. In reading his posts I gathered that he associated consistency with more, rather than with similar or progression. And as far as Gretzky goes, consistency also goes to longevity, and Gretzky was a consistent point producer. If you look at the curve of his goals, assists or points it would form a relatively smooth bell shape. My "false" player were meant to mimic the shorter careers that we have with the two players being compared.

You still don't get it, it is only about CONSISTENCY, real , imaginary, it doesn't matter. The point of the exercise was to determine what Burn's concept of the word was. In reading his posts I gathered that he associated consistency with more, rather than with similar or progression. And as far as Gretzky goes, consistency also goes to longevity, and Gretzky was a consistent point producer. If you look at the curve of his goals, assists or points it would form a relatively smooth bell shape. My "false" player were meant to mimic the shorter careers that we have with the two players being compared.
- 1970vintage

BAckes has a smaller deviation from is career AVG than Kesler does (Both higher and lower). does that make him More or less consistent?

So we're right back at it hey Leafs vs Canucks
- LeftCoaster

Why not

I wonder if the NHL does cut back the cap ,are teams going to be allowed to get rid of one contract that does not count against the cap? Like a franchise player.

BAckes has a smaller deviation from is career AVG than Kesler does (Both higher and lower). does that make him More or less consistent?
- burn

In the long term he may end up being more consistent, but if you graph his goal/point production it looks more like this


than this

Clout's blog got locked

He was starting world war III

In the long term he may end up being more consistent, but if you graph his goal/point production it looks more like this


than this

- 1970vintage

Neither of these are "consistent"

I wonder if the NHL does cut back the cap ,are teams going to be allowed to get rid of one contract that does not count against the cap? Like a franchise player.
- VANTEL

I think Bettmen has to go. He sold everybody on the fact that he got the exact deal he wanted last time. And now its not fare? Sure there are a few loopholes that need to be addressed. The long contracts are one. I believe the college loophole is crap. I don'think its fair that if a kid doesn't sign, he goes to Ufa after college and goes to a team of choice. The small market teams have no chance at these guys.

Class act all the way.... making up stuff, insults.
- burn

I think Bettmen has to go. He sold everybody on the fact that he got the exact deal he wanted last time. And now its not fare? Sure there are a few loopholes that need to be addressed. The long contracts are one. I believe the college loophole is crap. I don'think its fair that if a kid doesn't sign, he goes to Ufa after college and goes to a team of choice. The small market teams have no chance at these guys.
- Bieksa#3

This was a good read by Al over on the Chi blog.


Like I have written this CBA is about the owners protecting themseves from each other...Then about revenue sharing and the player's escrow.

I think the players will cave in some on rookie contracts....From next year's draft on. That's easy those players aren't in the NHL yet and have no vote.

The 10 year wait untill free agency doesn't fly...Nice try by the owners but it sounds too much like the 50's and 60's all over again.

The players escrow account is a problem and so is the revenue sharing but...

If the pie keeps getting bigger on the revenue side the payers should realize taking a reduction doen't necessarily mean less money in years to come.

Lastly you are correct the owners got almost everything they wanted and where they swung and missed is the players wound up benefitting a great deal too.....almost by accident and the smaller mkt teams didn't really benefit as much as the larger mkt clubs with a hard salary cap.

But if it is truly a partnership that is exactly what should happen...Everyone benefits.

The 5 yr term limit on contracts is a joke unless the salary cap floor and ceiling goes away.

What should be in place is a clause thats states in the last 1/3 of the term at least 20% of the contract must be paid out. That one is easy and should have happened that way to start.

Lastly I don't agree on the owners caving...There are a few who probably should not be owners at this point...But the big mkt teams stir the drink and the smaller mkt teams will have les red ink to deal with if the season was cut in half or didn't happen at all....Sad but true

You can follow Al at @AlCimaglia . He has some good reads.

Neither of these are "consistent"
- burn

Sure they are, the second is a consistent improvement to a plateau and then a consistent decline, the way most NHL players who play a long time will see their point production go. The curve may be skewed to one side or the other depending on when they bloom, but it is a certainly consistent. If you will only consider a player to be consistent if their point curve is not a curve (flat), then there would be no consistent players in the league.

Sure they are, the second is a consistent improvement to a plateau and then a consistent decline, the way most NHL players who play a long time will see their point production go. The curve may be skewed to one side or the other depending on when they bloom, but it is a certainly consistent. If you will only consider a player to be consistent if their point curve is not a curve (flat), then there would be no consistent players in the league.
- 1970vintage

No, the curve would gradually(most cases) rise, then plateau for awhile. You're graph rose gradually, plateaued (one year) and then declined. there was ZERO consistency.