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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:03 PM ET
I just worked out a trade with the Calgary board for a jbo deal. Read, Gus, 2nd going the other way. Holmer should be thanking me for getting something done
- Just5


more like a 4th and Tyler Hostetter
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:05 PM ET
good to see you back contributing (frank)all as usual, buddy!
- OrangeBlack27

good to see you're still around making personal attacks for people posting real facts
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:06 PM ET
he still won a world series, was a big factor in why they did, and yet he still gets booed. Point is once you've been selected for scapegoating, it matters not what you do hereafter in philadelphia.
- JoeRussomanno

anyone can win once true champions defend
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 9 @ 1:09 PM ET
good to see you're still around making personal attacks for people posting real facts
- 2Real


facts don't mean ish when your ability to formulate logical arguments is on par with a monkey.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 9 @ 1:10 PM ET
facts don't mean ish when your ability to formulate logical arguments is on par with a monkey.
- OrangeBlack27



bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:14 PM ET
facts don't mean ish when your ability to formulate logical arguments is on par with a monkey.
- OrangeBlack27


that's a personal attack

on monkeys
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 9 @ 1:14 PM ET
good to see you're still around making personal attacks for people posting real facts
- 2Real


Keep keeping it real.

http://herestothecrazyones.com/
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 9 @ 1:15 PM ET
that's a personal attack

on monkeys

- bradleyc4


aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Aug 9 @ 1:21 PM ET
H8 when it gets tense in here guys
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Aug 9 @ 1:25 PM ET
H8 when it gets tense in here guys
- aightwebang17



It's going to happen way 2much now.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:25 PM ET
facts don't mean ish when your ability to formulate logical arguments is on par with a monkey.
- OrangeBlack27

you don't see an issue with 4+ ERA and 7+ era? LOL
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:25 PM ET
I just worked out a trade with the Calgary board for a jbo deal. Read, Gus, 2nd going the other way. Holmer should be thanking me for getting something done
- Just5


I'm thankful that Holmgren hopefully isn't taking that advice.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:27 PM ET
Cool. Maybe Meszaros will be back by then.
- PLindbergh31



I'm thinking that his career is over, and we should all follow the Phantoms this year, and just forget about the Flyers!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:27 PM ET
I'm thinking that his career is over, and we should all follow the Phantoms this year, and just forget about the Flyers!
- MJL

why?
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Aug 9 @ 1:28 PM ET
Waiver-eligible players on minor-league assignments are subject to reentry waivers if they are recalled and their minor-league salary is greater than $105,000 in 2009-10 and beyond.

I doubt that he would clear waivers also. But it does give the Flyers an option.

And I'll also add that that is under the current CBA. Who knows if that will change.

- MJL


So... If he is claimed. The Flyers are responsible for a portion of his salary.... Is that portion based on the $612,500 NHL or $105,000 AHL salary - I assume the NHL salary???
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:31 PM ET
So... If he is claimed. The Flyers are responsible for a portion of his salary.... Is that portion based on the $612,500 NHL or $105,000 AHL salary - I assume the NHL salary???
- leon neon


If he is claimed on Waivers the Flyers are not responsible for any of his salary.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Aug 9 @ 1:34 PM ET
Homer's fond of targeting young players with unrealized upside that could benefit from a change in scenery, and for giving former 1st-round picks a second chance. I'd expect him to target guys like Nik Hjalmarsson, Kris Russell, Bobby Sanguinetti, Ty Wishart over the bigger/more expensive names that have been bandied about.
- Tomahawk

him i like
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 9 @ 1:36 PM ET
why?
- 2Real


sarcasm
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 9 @ 1:36 PM ET
It's going to happen way 2much now.
- canadianpenfan


Why?
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Aug 9 @ 1:37 PM ET
If he is claimed on Waivers the Flyers are not responsible for any of his salary.
- MJL


Maybe not own salary - but do they have a cap hit? What I'm thinking about is the Nodl situation a few seasons ago. Didn't the Canes pick him up via claiming him from Waivers and we have a cap hit (not sure if we owed salary to him or not). When does that come into play?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Aug 9 @ 1:37 PM ET
facts don't mean ish when your ability to formulate logical arguments is on par with a monkey.
- OrangeBlack27

peter gabriel would find this shocking
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:37 PM ET
him i like
- isaiah520



Defensive defenseman and a non puck mover. Nice player but not what I'd be looking for.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:38 PM ET
Maybe not own salary - but do they have a cap hit? What I'm thinking about is the Nodl situation a few seasons ago. Didn't the Canes pick him up via claiming him from Waivers and we have a cap hit (not sure if we owed salary to him or not). When does that come into play?
- leon neon



They would not be responsible for any of his Cap hit either. That comes into play on recall waivers.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Aug 9 @ 1:39 PM ET
They would not be responsible for any of his Cap hit either. That comes into play on recall waivers.
- MJL


and, since his AHL salary is so low - he doesn't go through recall waivers... thnx got it.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:40 PM ET
He was playing good for the first month and a half then got injured. I don't even know what the heck is wrong with him injury-wise at this point
- JoeRussomanno


I heard (can't recall exactly where - does anyone else remember?) that Kubina and Lavy did not see eye to eye on how he was used at the end of the season and during the playoffs, and that Kubina was upset about it. If true, that may have as much or more to do with his not being considered an option than his recovery progress.
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