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Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 9 @ 2:30 PM ET
if he making 3M Calgary would keep him
- Marc D


Maybe. But that wouldn't stop the onslaught of HB postings.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 9 @ 2:31 PM ET
I've never understood the love for JBo...obviously I'd take the advice of scouts and GM's long before I take my own but he's just never impressed me, or maybe it's that he's always been on a crappy team and doesn't shine like he would if he was in the playoffs.
- Juice


shined on crappy team in fla. miscast on crappy team in calgary.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 9 @ 2:31 PM ET
I've never understood the love for JBo...obviously I'd take the advice of scouts and GM's long before I take my own but he's just never impressed me, or maybe it's that he's always been on a crappy team and doesn't shine like he would if he was in the playoffs.
- Juice


You don't need to understand it. It may be more desperation than anything that would make sense to a rational person.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 2:33 PM ET
shined on crappy team in fla. miscast on crappy team in calgary.
- OrangeBlack27



I think it's more like a player who hasn't come close to meeting the potential that a player of his skill package has. Classic example of an underachiever.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 9 @ 2:34 PM ET
How did you like seeing Jeff Carter raise the cup for LA?

Tell the truth now.

- Marc D

i wanted to kill myself
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 2:35 PM ET
In theory, it should work like MJL described, however we know in practice that re-entry presents a clear disincentive for cap-conscious teams to bring players back up at all.

I'm betting that the NHLPA supported re-entry on the basis that it might introduce some liquidity to the waiver process, but I think they underestimated how willing some teams were to eat real dollars to save cap space.

- Tomahawk



The Redden's and Souray's are the minority. I would think the NHLPA's feelings on that would be dicatated on what's best for the majority of it's players.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 9 @ 2:35 PM ET
I think it's more like a player who hasn't come close to meeting the potential that a player of his skill package has. Classic example of an underachiever.
- MJL


certainly part of it.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Aug 9 @ 2:49 PM ET
I might be 2 for 2. Doan staying out west. I know we need d but I think this a good time to get Rya. We can stock d next year.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 9 @ 2:52 PM ET
The Redden's and Souray's are the minority. I would think the NHLPA's feelings on that would be dicatated on what's best for the majority of it's players.
- MJL

would would think this trend could become a problem to the majority
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 9 @ 2:53 PM ET
Whats crackin' ? Anything new?
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Aug 9 @ 2:53 PM ET
damn, Detroit's going to give up a lot for JBouw.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 9 @ 2:56 PM ET
damn, Detroit's going to give up a lot for JBouw.
- bradleyc4


They are desperate. Their current defensive group doesn't look very good.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:00 PM ET
I might be 2 for 2. Doan staying out west. I know we need d but I think this a good time to get Rya. We can stock d next year.
- Deasr1

We owe Timonen the chance to win a cup... Which this could be the year but I don't see it unless we get another solid top 4 d man
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Aug 9 @ 3:01 PM ET
They are desperate. Their current defensive group doesn't look very good.
- stveshdy


The six guys they have penciled in now look solid, but they have no depth.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 9 @ 3:02 PM ET
I might be 2 for 2. Doan staying out west. I know we need d but I think this a good time to get Rya. We can stock d next year.
- Deasr1


So the Flyers didn't get Doan either huh? Hmmm... Holmgren batting 0.0%
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Aug 9 @ 3:02 PM ET
Hope for JBo somewhere? Can't argue that he hasn't live up to his potential, jeez the guy hasn't been to the playoffs yet. Barry Ashbee, hearda him?, who had marginal skills but grit out the wazoo played his best hockey at age 33. Ashbee got booed regularly the first couple of seasons with the Flyers but by '72 he started playing like a man possessed. Of course the team was better also. He did much to help Andre Dupont. By '73 he was the best defenseman on the team. A second team all-star. It makes me wonder, why a guy like JBo just can't start putting it together at age 29. Maybe he just lacks that fire.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:03 PM ET
The six guys they have penciled in now look solid, but they have no depth.
- bradleyc4


What do you think they give up for him? I can't see them trading away another 1st round pick (last year for Quincey).
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 9 @ 3:03 PM ET
So the Flyers didn't get Doan either huh? Hmmm... Holmgren batting 0.0%
- PLindbergh31


So are you saying you wanted them to sign Doan?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 9 @ 3:04 PM ET
We owe Timonen the chance to win a cup... Which this could be the year but I don't see it unless we get another solid top 4 d man
- Richieattack18

how do we owe him a cup? he performed a service for us and we paid him very well
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 9 @ 3:04 PM ET
So the Flyers didn't get Doan either huh? Hmmm... Holmgren batting 0.0%
- PLindbergh31

he dumped that bust JVR give him some credit
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:05 PM ET
So are you saying you wanted them to sign Doan?
- MBFlyerfan


Not at that crazy price (rumored at 4 years 30M).
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 9 @ 3:05 PM ET
So are you saying you wanted them to sign Doan?
- MBFlyerfan


Depending on the terms. I wouldn't be in favor of a long deal for him. He certainly would improve the team if he was added, no question about it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 3:05 PM ET
So the Flyers didn't get Doan either huh? Hmmm... Holmgren batting 0.0%
- PLindbergh31



Only if you have the narrow minded view of just using a few UFA, and one RFA player to compute the "batting average" of a GM.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Aug 9 @ 3:05 PM ET
What do you think they give up for him? I can't see them trading away another 1st round pick (last year for Quincey).
- stveshdy


A person in the know says a 1st + a prospect or player
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:06 PM ET
So the Flyers didn't get Doan either huh? Hmmm... Holmgren batting 0.0%
- PLindbergh31


Guess you missed the signings of Leighton, Grevais, and Tenko. His batting % is higher than 0.
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