Tone it down there guy...
- OilHorse

Let it go, shiner needs it, he is about as friendly as a pitbull with a toothache.

For the win!
- mckeevs2012

Anyways, been a blast, gotta run, been fun as always fellas...

Let it go, shiner needs it, he is about as friendly as a pitbull with a toothache.
- sloppyseconds2

Didn't seem to get over the top until the other guy showed up...

Great prospect but totally unproven. The thing about Subban is he is a tank and hits like one. Schultz will never be a Subban.
- flyerdude17

And that is fine...I would rather he became more like his potential and that is Neidermayer.

Subban is not as much of a hitter as you think...he registered just over 100 hits last year...

I MISS HOCKEY

And that is fine...I would rather he became more like his potential and that is Neidermayer.
- OilHorse

Time will tell but it would be nice to see the Oil add a little color to their team
With PK Subban you either hate him or you love him and really if he was on my team he would probably be my favourite player. This guy is very colorful in every sense of the word.

Didn't seem to get over the top until the other guy showed up...
- OilHorse

Saw that, but still, Shine has been pretty arrogant to many, including myself and never gave him a reason, very selective person. Too bad,

Time will tell but it would be nice to see the Oil add a little color to their team
With PK Subban you either hate him or you love him and really if he was on my team he would probably be my favourite player. This guy is very colorful in every sense of the word.
- flyerdude17

I notice you live in CR...I do deliveries up there occasionally, seem like a nice quiet place.

Oh no doubt I would love PK on the Oil...I would overpay...but just not certain players...unfortunately it is those players that will be targeted.

NOPE!

I would never trade Yak for Subban. I think Subban is a great young Dman, but no Yakupov. I also dont move a package that includes 2013 first. That draft is too deep and I hang on to as many firsts for next year as possible.
- Iggysbff

We still don't know what Yakupov is. So how can you say that a great young Dman is no Yak. Take the sure thing and run with it. The Oilers need a Dman who can make a decent first pass, skate the puck, throw some bonecrushing hits and and has a pretty solid shot from the point more than they need another talented winger.

Saw that, but still, Shine has been pretty arrogant to many, including myself and never gave him a reason, very selective person. Too bad,
- sloppyseconds2

It is obvious he does not like you leaf fans and that is all there is to it. I mean having Brian Burke as GM, Ron Wilson for coach far too long it has been tough on you leaf fans. At least there is a littl hope that things will get better this year. I can live with Burke but Wilson cost you guys big time as none of the prospects developed under him.

Saw that, but still, Shine has been pretty arrogant to many, including myself and never gave him a reason, very selective person. Too bad,
- sloppyseconds2

I don't mind some banter...that was just getting out of hand.

As long as you keep that sexy piece of ass as your avatar you will always be welcome here...

I don't mind some banter...that was just getting out of hand.

As long as you keep that sexy piece of ass as your avatar you will always be welcome here...
- OilHorse

I thought is was very entertaining, thank you.
As for the avitar, agreed!

You gotta have a good sense of humour to come here. Funny though I have been banned for less.

And that is fine...I would rather he became more like his potential and that is Neidermayer.

Subban is not as much of a hitter as you think...he registered just over 100 hits last year...
- OilHorse

Not the quantity of hits but the quality of the hits. Many of them were huge open ice hits. He can really hurt an unsuspecting forward at the blue line.

It is obvious he does not like you leaf fans and that is all there is to it. I mean having Brian Burke as GM, Ron Wilson for coach far too long it has been tough on you leaf fans. At least there is a littl hope that things will get better this year. I can live with Burke but Wilson cost you guys big time as none of the prospects developed under him.
- flyerdude17

I know the fans you speak of, I personally don't judge people by the team they support, jesus its just a hockey forum, no need for insulting people unless they set themselves up, and we know they do.

I don't mind some banter...that was just getting out of hand.

As long as you keep that sexy piece of ass as your avatar you will always be welcome here...
- OilHorse

any of my friends on here know I rarely talk hockey, mostly just for the laughs. P.S...Actually, I have no Leaf fans here as friends, just sayin.

I'd do this deal 1 for 1 any day from either perspective. For EDM they get an all star defensemen, in MTL they get a sure bet to be at the very least a good player and one with proven chemistry with Galchenyuk. Plus it seems Subban can be an angry and immature young man at times, which may or may not change, so that coupled with the tiny bit of uncertainty with Yakupov equals out the deal IMO

Less desirable? I don't see how Montreal is a less desirable place... better weather, better arena and facilities and more opportunities for sponsorship money. Not to mention all the history that Montreal has if I was an elite player who was offered a ton of money to play in montreal over edmonton i'd definitely choose montreal!
- Habsforever101

No kidding. You live there.

Montreal posses many problems for a young English speaking player. It's not the eutopian environment you make it out to be.

Sorry but Yandle is a wimp compared to PK Subban. Subban is still a kid and by the time he is 25 years old he will dominate from the back end. Subban for Yakupov would be a done deal if I was the oiler GM. PK will be a Norris candidate soon and the oil need a guy like him. I also think PK would love to come to Edmonton and play with all the young stars. Yakupov will be trouble down the road whether he is average or great. Subban has a unique passion for the game and plays to win, a tremendous hitter, a wicked slapper and a unreal skater with superb strength in all areas including his mouth.
- flyerdude17

Partially true. But, it seems to me a top #1 Dman needs all those qualities. But, the really great ones are able to play within themselves, they are able to think and see the game beyond the guys around them. Karlsson is a great example of somebody who thinks the game in a way that makes everyone him better. Subban is not even close, just does not have the head for it.

Keep it in perspective Subban is a year older than Karlsson, Doughty or Pietrangelo.

No kidding. You live there.

Montreal posses many problems for a young English speaking player. It's not the eutopian environment you make it out to be.
- Sabata

Looks like Ottawa isn't much better.
If you're trying to say that an English speaking young (or old for that matter) hockey player would have an issue with language, you are really ill-informed.

Personally I think Edmonton makes out pretty well in 1-for-1 for Subban. Subban's much more of a proven entity than Yakupov. I'd say Montreal's taking on a lot more risk than Edmonton in this case.

This coming from a Leafs fan who despises the Habs. And I despise Subban. That doesn't mean I wouldn't want him on my team. He's a super-pest with all-star talent. Those don't exactly grow on trees.

Yakupov could easily be a flop. Long term I could see him having huge injury issues. From what I've seen, he does play an Ovechkin style only he's way smaller.

Subban on the PP with Nuge, Hall, Eberle, and Shultz would be insane.

I am personally just fed up of these. Why not just admit that you really want Subban instead of coming up with 10 different trade proposals and bogus "Subban is unhappy" rumours.

Where exactly does this come from? From the fact he said no to the contract offer by management?

Under normal circumstances YaKupov has more potential than Subban and would fetch a bigger return but Montreal like Edmonton does not exactly have a stellar D-core right now.

We have guys on the way with Tinordi, Beaulieu, Ellis and a bunch more but right now Subban at 23 is the best D-man on the team. He plays PP, PK and against the oppositions best. Trading him, even for Yakupov would mean taking a step backwards because we don't have anyone capable of filing his shoes right now or for the next 2-3 years.

Are you feeling ok Cloutier? Am I missing something here? What is with this extreme over-rating of PK Subban?

Based on your article, here's a multiple choice question; Is PK Subban worth :

A) Nail Yakupov
B) Gagner, Paajarvi and a 1st in 2013
C) Two 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd round pick (Offer sheet compensation)
D) None of the above

The answer is D, without a second of hesitation. I can't understand for the life of me how you think Subban is worth any of that. Yakupov at least you had the argument he hasn't played a single NHL game, but while I'm no fan of his, he's worth quite a bit more than PK Subban.

I've got to say, I haven't seen an article that made me raise eyebrows this much in quite some time.
- Kesselmobile

wow, someone hates the Habs...

I am personally just fed up of these. Why not just admit that you really want Subban instead of coming up with 10 different trade proposals and bogus "Subban is unhappy" rumours.

Where exactly does this come from? From the fact he said no to the contract offer by management?

Under normal circumstances YaKupov has more potential than Subban and would fetch a bigger return but Montreal like Edmonton does not exactly have a stellar D-core right now.

We have guys on the way with Tinordi, Beaulieu, Ellis and a bunch more but right now Subban at 23 is the best D-man on the team. He plays PP, PK and against the oppositions best. Trading him, even for Yakupov would mean taking a step backwards because we don't have anyone capable of filing his shoes right now or for the next 2-3 years.
- willey101

ya i don't get the whole "Subban wants out rumours". the only "rumour" i've heard is that the Habs are offering 2 years and he wants longer. not many guys "want out" coming off their ELC. he wants money, thats it.

wow, someone hates the Habs...
- DoubleDown

Not just the team; their arrogant fans as well.

Not just the team; their arrogant fans as well.
- hscesq

All fans are arrogant. All fans over value their own team and under value the opposition. That's what we do.