Is that french for cough?
- LeafsOwnHabs

There is no denying that Subban is on the cusp of being a mega-star in the NHL. He is becoming the player that you build around. If anyone does deny this then they are clearly delusional. My point here is that Bergevin MAY consider trading Subban for a king's ransom and nothing less. It would take something like Yakupov, Gagner, Musil, and a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder to get it done. Now, of course this is my surmise however I would suggest it is close to what it would take for the Oilers to pluck Subban out of Montreal. Remember, just because someone was drafted 1st overall does not mean they will be successful and Montreal will never take the chanc of losing out on a deal like this. God knows we have seen enough of these young kids fizzle out over the years.
- MadManPaddy

Does anyone know anything about the freshman class of the Fighting Irish? Think they could help buoy the Leafs into the playoffs?

Reimer and Scrivens, but also Kadri, Colborne, Frattin, Ashton, Holzer, maybe Blacker too. All the 22+ year old prospects need to start developing at the NHL level so we can at least start to see what we have. If that means a lottery pick and a chance at Great Nate, then great. It also leaves MacArthur, Bozak and possibly Grabovsky as assets they can use to acquire more futures at the deadline or earlier. Need to figure out what to do with Connolly, Lombo, and Komi though - can't have them blocking the kids.
- 1979AD

I strongly agree. If any one of these young guys Want to be a star in the NHL they have to start showing signs this year, more so for Kadri. I think this is a make or break it year for Kadri. I sure hope he suprises us at training camp.
I realy like what I've seen from Frattin last year and his play in the AHL. He's probably most NHL ready

Heard Nonis brought a gun to the weekly fishing trip. (It was a .45 revolver). A flounder jumped into the boat without warning leaving Nonis no choice but to open fire. he missed! Put a hole right through the boat. The captain of the boat puked - not because of what just happened, just other reasons. He could have used the bucket, but he didn't. But it did come in handy to help take the water out of the boat. Needless to say, he traded the captain.

You make a good point. Although the others should be given every opportunity to earn it in the pre-season.
- 1979AD

The Leafs simply have too many bodies to give them all a chance in the NHL. Outside of Lombardi, very few signed Maple Leafs are at risk of being sent to the Marlies. And that one spot would probably go to Kadri until Frattin is healthy and then another dilemma arises.

Colborne, Blacker and Ashton simply aren't good enough or experienced enough to make the jump yet. Holzer has paid his dues and is apparently a good defender but even he has at least six guys ahead of him. If Franson is signed, it pretty much puts Holzer on the outside looking in as the 7th defender until somebody gets hurt or benched (hopefully Komisarek).

There is no denying that Subban is on the cusp of being a mega-star in the NHL. He is becoming the player that you build around. If anyone does deny this then they are clearly delusional. My point here is that Bergevin MAY consider trading Subban for a king's ransom and nothing less. It would take something like Yakupov, Gagner, Musil, and a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder to get it done. Now, of course this is my surmise however I would suggest it is close to what it would take for the Oilers to pluck Subban out of Montreal. Remember, just because someone was drafted 1st overall does not mean they will be successful and Montreal will never take the chanc of losing out on a deal like this. God knows we have seen enough of these young kids fizzle out over the years.
- MadManPaddy
- shinebox

That's some scrambled eggs right there.

That's some scrambled eggs right there.
- Two_For_Truth

Almost bordering on the line of the everyday Leaf fan.

Almost bordering on the line of the everyday Leaf fan.
- Tee-Dot

There is no denying that Subban is on the cusp of being a mega-star in the NHL. He is becoming the player that you build around. If anyone does deny this then they are clearly delusional. My point here is that Bergevin MAY consider trading Subban for a king's ransom and nothing less. It would take something like Yakupov, Gagner, Musil, and a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder to get it done. Now, of course this is my surmise however I would suggest it is close to what it would take for the Oilers to pluck Subban out of Montreal. Remember, just because someone was drafted 1st overall does not mean they will be successful and Montreal will never take the chanc of losing out on a deal like this. God knows we have seen enough of these young kids fizzle out over the years.
- MadManPaddy
- shinebox

I started reading this and thought you were being serious.... then thankfully saw it was attributed to another poster... Gawd dayum...

I started reading this and thought you were being serious.... then thankfully saw it was attributed to another poster... Gawd dayum...
- SofaKingBored

Honestly, i like PK as a player, i do, however i doubt he ever lives up to the hype that he has been built up to by most hab fans. Does that mean he is overrated? I don't believe so, however, there are a certain amount of fans in any fan base that will always make unfair expectations for their team's best players, PK and hab fans are not exceptions to the rule.

Honestly, i like PK as a player, i do, however i doubt he ever lives up to the hype that he has been built up to by most hab fans. Does that mean he is overrated? I don't believe so, however, there are a certain amount of fans in any fan base that will always make unfair expectations for their team's best players, PK and hab fans are not exceptions to the rule.
- shinebox

I know what you're saying... the Leafs traded that player away this summer for JVR

Honestly, i like PK as a player, i do, however i doubt he ever lives up to the hype that he has been built up to by most hab fans. Does that mean he is overrated? I don't believe so, however, there are a certain amount of fans in any fan base that will always make unfair expectations for their team's best players, PK and hab fans are not exceptions to the rule.
- shinebox

Do you think this is true for Dougie Hamilton? He is pretty hyped up as well, but I think he may be the really deal (lol then again I'm a Bruins fan and could be feeding directly into your theory )

There is no denying that Subban is on the cusp of being a mega-star in the NHL. He is becoming the player that you build around. If anyone does deny this then they are clearly delusional. My point here is that Bergevin MAY consider trading Subban for a king's ransom and nothing less. It would take something like Yakupov, Gagner, Musil, and a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder to get it done. Now, of course this is my surmise however I would suggest it is close to what it would take for the Oilers to pluck Subban out of Montreal. Remember, just because someone was drafted 1st overall does not mean they will be successful and Montreal will never take the chanc of losing out on a deal like this. God knows we have seen enough of these young kids fizzle out over the years.
- MadManPaddy
- shinebox

by far the worst trade proposal i've ever seen on this site.. by far.

and you guys make fun of leaf fans? wow..

not to be offensive.. but that's straight up horrible. subban for yakupov straight up would be a win for the habs. mega star?!?.. wow!

- Two_For_Truth

PK Subban?

There is no denying that Subban is on the cusp of being a mega-star in the NHL. He is becoming the player that you build around. If anyone does deny this then they are clearly delusional. My point here is that Bergevin MAY consider trading Subban for a king's ransom and nothing less. It would take something like Yakupov, Gagner, Musil, and a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder to get it done. Now, of course this is my surmise however I would suggest it is close to what it would take for the Oilers to pluck Subban out of Montreal. Remember, just because someone was drafted 1st overall does not mean they will be successful and Montreal will never take the chanc of losing out on a deal like this. God knows we have seen enough of these young kids fizzle out over the years.
- MadManPaddy
- shinebox

that's the same one from the other thread!

still stand by it..

wow!

Do you think this is true for Dougie Hamilton? He is pretty hyped up as well, but I think he may be the really deal (lol then again I'm a Bruins fan and could be feeding directly into your theory )
- celata29

I'm more upset about the Bruins obtaining him than Seguin. So no I don't think you are biased.

I know what you're saying... the Leafs traded that player away this summer for JVR
- SofaKingBored

I have always defended Schenn on these threads and usually against other leaf fans oddly enough, i believe he was selected too high in the draft for a defensive defenseman and escalated from there, had a decent 1st season, and then came the unreal expectations he would not live up to. a bad season or so, depends if you want to be picky or not, and add that with his void of offense game, the leafs log jam at the D position and voila, that trade happened. I believe the Flyers will use Schenn far more effectively then the leafs did, and his confidence and game will grow with it. I get the feeling leaf fans will be disappointed with this trade years down the road, especially if JVR doesn't meet his unreal expectations as a 1st line center or cant stay healthy.

that's the same one from the other thread!

still stand by it..

wow!
- joel878

How many beer you had? The post wasn't mine.

I have always defended Schenn on these threads and usually against other leaf fans oddly enough, i believe he was selected too high in the draft for a defensive defenseman and escalated from there, had a decent 1st season, and then came the unreal expectations he would not live up to. a bad season or so, depends if you want to be picky or not, and add that with his void of offense game, the leafs log jam at the D position and voila, that trade happened. I believe the Flyers will use Schenn far more effectively then the leafs did, and his confidence and game will grow with it. I get the feeling leaf fans will be disappointed with this trade years down the road, especially if JVR doesn't meet his unreal expectations as a 1st line center or cant stay healthy.
- shinebox

JVR... 1st line center... FIAL

JVR... 1st line center... FIAL
- SofaKingBored

Hey man, that isn't my call, and not what other leaf fans been saying since it was announced he would be tried as an option....

I'm more upset about the Bruins obtaining him than Seguin. So no I don't think you are biased.
- Boosinicka

Yeah I agree, I think we've talked about this before? Haven't seen you here in a while...trust me I don't just talk about the Bruins on the Leaf's forum

Hey man, that isn't my call, and not what other leaf fans been saying since it was announced he would be tried as an option....
- shinebox

Sure... he'll be given a look there... but let's be realistic... a 1st line center, he's not

Sure... he'll be given a look there... but let's be realistic... a 1st line center, he's not
- SofaKingBored

You're avatar is perfect for your statement

Sure... he'll be given a look there... but let's be realistic... a 1st line center, he's not
- SofaKingBored

I do not believe it will work out, but stranger poop has happened.

How many beer you had? The post wasn't mine.
- shinebox

Sure.....that's just another one of your alts