I was assuming we would be taking back a goalie to trade for a Dman I was thinking Murrya as the 5 th not the 3 rd.
- VANTEL

That's just too many moves for any team to make in one off-season.

More importantly he somehow has a Stanley Cup.
- AlexF

Niemi didn't win it, Leighton lost it.

That might be more realistic than actually making that trade/signings that we're discussing.
- Nucker101

I recall really hoping that Niedermeyer would sign here for one or two years before retiring. Alas, it wasn't to be.

That might be more realistic than actually making that trade/signings that we're discussing.
- Nucker101

No one is serious .We are just dreaming.

Niemi didn't win it, Leighton lost it.
- Mattjd123

Forgot about Leighton. Battle of the titans right there.

No one is serious .We are just dreaming.
- VANTEL

Of course.

We're starting to dream more than TOR fans though which is scary.

That's just too many moves for any team to make in one off-season.
- Nucker101

Well I think Lu is going .

I wouldn't be surprised if Ballard Manny and Raymond don't finish the year here.

Edler is a 50/50 . If he isn't re-signed by TDL he may be on his way out.

In fact there may be very little movement this year or there could be a lot.

Of course.

We're starting to dream more than TOR fans though which is scary.
- Nucker101

Never.

Vishnovsky. He put up 68 points the season before last though. Only 27 points last year, but the Ducks were fairly awful. I'd think he's a fair bit more valuable than Ballard unless he's not fully healthy.
- micah555

He's also an UFA in one more year. My point was that teams near the bottom of payroll ladder would be less resistent to acquiring a player like Ballard, who in all likelihood could contribute in a top 4 capacity for them. If Gillis was willing to accept his mistake and take a 3rd/4th/5th round pick instead of what he paid prospect(1st rounder)+1st round I think that's an easy deal to make.

I recall really hoping that Niedermeyer would sign here for one or two years before retiring. Alas, it wasn't to be.
- AlexF

Neids could never play here because of the BC bud. It would be too accessible and he would have been high for every game.

He's also an UFA in one more year. My point was that teams near the bottom of payroll ladder would be less resistent to acquiring a player like Ballard, who in all likelihood could contribute in a top 4 capacity for them. If Gillis was willing to accept his mistake and take a 3rd/4th/5th round pick instead of what he paid prospect(1st rounder)+1st round I think that's an easy deal to make.
- 1970vintage

Ballard will probably be in Det at the start of the season if we sign a big name . Dominos

Everything is clear as mud

The good thing is we have many options and this year and next should be fun with the free agency pool and trades. Some big names have been moved and some still out there and it makes it fun.

I think Canucks ( me coming back to Earth) need to make at least one more big move this summer. I think if we could switch Manny for Arnott ,and get Doan or Ryan then it will be a very successful offseason
- VANTEL

I don't think the Nucks are prepared to pay the price for Ryan. I'd love to have Arnott as our 3LC, he'd be a bit of a mentor to Jensen even though they play dif positions.
I have a feeling we could get a nice return for Ballard from Detroit. They're really thin on D and Babcock could turn him around.

Because yours bordered on cruel, while Booner's was simply in poor taste?
- 1970vintage

Pun?

I don't think the Nucks are prepared to pay the price for Ryan. I'd love to have Arnott as our 3LC, he'd be a bit of a mentor to Jensen even though they play dif positions.
I have a feeling we could get a nice return for Ballard from Detroit. They're really thin on D and Babcock could turn him around.

- Troutback

IMHO I am not expecting Thorton or Ryan . We were just having fun . Arnott is a good cheap 3 rd liner . The salary put on him would be salary off seeing there would be no need for Manny

IMHO I am not expecting Thorton or Ryan . We were just having fun . Arnott is a good cheap 3 rd liner . The salary put on him would be salary off seeing there would be no need for Manny
- VANTEL

I bet we're stuck with Manny for a while. GM MG always talks him up and AV leans on him. I think he'll be a bit better this season, but don't be surprised to see him magically resigned for next. Same for Raymond. Maybe it's something where Gillis feels he owes something to players that got injured.

And in your last post you said you were coming down to earth... still in the clouds then...

I bet we're stuck with Manny for a while. GM MG always talks him up and AV leans on him. I think he'll be a bit better this season, but don't be surprised to see him magically resigned for next. Same for Raymond. Maybe it's something where Gillis feels he owes something to players that got injured.

And in your last post you said you were coming down to earth... still in the clouds then...
- Troutback

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I don't think the Nucks are prepared to pay the price for Ryan. I'd love to have Arnott as our 3LC, he'd be a bit of a mentor to Jensen even though they play dif positions.
I have a feeling we could get a nice return for Ballard from Detroit. They're really thin on D and Babcock could turn him around.

- Troutback

Edler, Booth, and a 2nd for Ryan and vishnovsky? We move Ballard then to det/dal for a pick. Lu and Raymond for Bozak, Gunnersson, Ashton and Brown
Manny retires and stays in the front office
Down 3yrs/18 mil

Danny-Hank-Burrows
Ryan-Kesler-Doan
Higgins-Bozak-Kassian
Hansen-Lapierre-Pinizotto/Ebbett/Weise

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Garrison-Vishnovsky
Gunnersson-Tanev
Sauve/Caunautton

Schneider
Clemmenson

Edler, Booth, and a 2nd for Ryan and vishnovsky? We move Ballard then to det/dal for a pick. Lu and Raymond for Bozak, Gunnersson, Ashton and Brown
Manny retires and stays in the front office
Down 3yrs/18 mil

Danny-Hank-Burrows
Ryan-Kesler-Doan
Higgins-Bozak-Kassian
Hansen-Lapierre-Pinizotto/Ebbett/Weise

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Garrison-Vishnovsky
Gunnersson-Tanev
Sauve/Caunautton

Schneider
Clemmenson
- Bieksa#3

Visnovsky doesn't play for Anaheim anymore....

Visnovsky doesn't play for Anaheim anymore....
- kneughter

As of right now he does until the arbitrator decides

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Pun?
- boonerbuck

As of right now he does until the arbitrator decides
- Bieksa#3

He currently plays for no team until the decision... so Anaheim would be unable to trade him (again) even if they wanted to.

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- Mattjd123

Well put

The simple counter argument would be that Joe has 2 years left on his contract. Of course that poses problems to the trade value as well, since he's not sure to sign an extension to any team that trades for him, but you know...
- AlexF

Totally agree. But I think that's short sighted. Here's the breakdown over the next two years.

Thornton (next 2 years):
2012-13 - $7,000,000 (cap $7,000,000)
2013-14 $6,000,000 (cap $7,000,000)

Luongo (next 2 years):
2012-13 - $6,714,000 (cap $5,333,333)
2013-14 - $6,714,000 (cap $5,333,333)

Even with the additional six years I think Lu has better value.

Because yours bordered on cruel, while Booner's was simply in poor taste?
- 1970vintage

Fair enough.

I wasn't trying to be literal. Just meant that Burke being fired from his "destiny" might just be enough to make the old Irish bastard snap.