I completely disagree. Max was too fast to be effective and rarely got off a good shot because of it.
- RynoBull

good lord you are right.. that speed did make it so that he couldn't take a good shot.

I hope to god that's not the plan
- gerbe75pts

I like Arnott, he would be a good third line center and would go along with our "tougher to play against" theme the Sabres are going for. Also would provide give Girgensons and Grigorenko some time to develop in the minors if we sign him to a 1 year deal.

not even his last year in the league is that true.
- JVince11

I think Lindy Ruff Ruined Max. He was an absolute freak of Nature. He was the most talented Sabre since Mogilny.

not even his last year in the league is that true.
- JVince11

I remember that. Total embarassment for our club.

I have a feeling its going to be Vanek going out. Not too many teams are going to want stafford, especially if hes the main piece for a top line center coming back.
- Rally_Shots

I wouldn't be too upset if Vanek was the piece moved out.. he still can potentially be our best offensive player.. but I think his best years are behind him.. and for 7.2M the next 2 years.. I'd rather move him.

If it was Vanek for Stastny straight up... we would win because Stastny actually has better stats than Vanek does... look it up if you don't believe me.

I'd want Grigorenko or Girgensons to play before signing Arnott.
- JVince11

Absolutely. Grigorenko will be on the opening day roster and Girgensons will be the first call up for an injury. I just can't see Doan coming to Buffalo.

I wouldn't be too upset if Vanek was the piece moved out.. he still can potentially be our best offensive player.. but I think his best years are behind him.. and for 7.2M the next 2 years.. I'd rather move him.

If it was Vanek for Stastny straight up... we would win because Stastny actually has better stats than Vanek does... look it up if you don't believe me.
- JVince11

My only question is we got centers and if we trade for lets say stas then what about Grigs and Big Z when they make the club.

My only question is we got centers and if we trade for lets say stas then what about Grigs and Big Z when they make the club.
- evatnorth

they dont have to make the club now

I have a feeling its going to be Vanek going out. Not too many teams are going to want stafford, especially if hes the main piece for a top line center coming back.
- Rally_Shots

I think Vanek will go (for Ryan) and Stafford will go (for Stastny or 'nother center).

I think Vanek will go (for Ryan) and Stafford will go (for Stasny or 'nother center).
- Jacob582

well that would be the pipe dream..

Is this with or without Doan too? lol

well that would be the pipe dream..

Is this with or without Doan too? lol
- JVince11

they dont have to make the club now
- hubie

Unless they blow us away in training camp, it will probably be better for their development for them not to make the club this year.

I can see Grig. getting a long look in preseason games and the first 9. I can see Z being a key (but small minute) contributor in a gritty 4th line role for the playoffs if there are injuries.

Unless they blow us away in training camp, it will probably be better for their development for them not to make the club this year.

I can see Grig. getting a long look in preseason games and the first 9. I can see Z being a key (but small minute) contributor in a gritty 4th line role for the playoffs if there are injuries.
- Jacob582

I cannot disagree more... If Girgensons or Grigs are not getting atleast 3rd line time then they would be better off in the Q or AHL because there they would get top line minutes..

Vanek - Grigorenko - Pommer
Foligno - Ennis - Stafford
Ott - Hodge - Girgensons

that would be my group if I could dream of what we have with roster players.

My only question is we got centers and if we trade for lets say stas then what about Grigs and Big Z when they make the club.
- evatnorth

Some of our centers can be pushed out the the wing in the future. Z and Ennis. Not saying it will, or should happen. Just that it is a possibility.

http://www.buffalorising....veloper-in-two-weeks.html

Theyre finally getting rid of the parking lot infront of the FNC. Two proposals on the table and they're picking which one is getting built in the upcoming weeks. Either way should be good for the Sabres and downtown Buffalo.

I cannot disagree more... If Girgensons or Grigs are not getting atleast 3rd line time then they would be better off in the Q or AHL because there they would get top line minutes..

Vanek - Grigorenko - Pommer
Foligno - Ennis - Stafford
Ott - Hodge - Girgensons

that would be my group if I could dream of what we have with roster players.
- JVince11

I agree with you for the regular season. But I was talking about the playoffs. I think that if Z (because of development and circumstance) is needed for 4th line duty in the playoffs then more power to him and the team. (Then again it will be even better if he is a key contributor on the 3rd line for the whole season like your lineup.)

I don't want two forwards making the team this year. Unless they both blow us away in training camp. It's great that Girgensons has the option of AHL. Gives much greater flexibility.

Absolutely. Grigorenko will be on the opening day roster and Girgensons will be the first call up for an injury. I just can't see Doan coming to Buffalo.
- buffalokb

Neither will be regulars on this team this season and Grigorenko will not be on the opening day roster - where exactly would he play lol.
This is the Sabres...apart from Myers, we wait for years to get our prospects 'ready'.

Neither will be regulars on this team this season and Grigorenko will not be on the opening day roster - where exactly would he play lol.
This is the Sabres...apart from Myers, we wait for years to get our prospects 'ready'.
- sambarugh

The longer they play the game in Rochester the longer it takes Lindy to ruin them is my thoery.

good lord you are right.. that speed did make it so that he couldn't take a good shot.
- JVince11

He was fun to watch and when it clicked for him he was dynamic. He had some great moments too. His fails far outweighed his potential to be great. Drawing his own linemates offside constantly is a good start to what was wring with the guy.

http://www.buffalorising....veloper-in-two-weeks.html

Theyre finally getting rid of the parking lot infront of the FNC. Two proposals on the table and they're picking which one is getting built in the upcoming weeks. Either way should be good for the Sabres and downtown Buffalo.
- Rally_Shots

Public opinion while sway which one they choose. So says Byron Brown. I vote for Pegulaville.

He was fun to watch and when it clicked for him he was dynamic. He had some great moments too. His fails far outweighed his potential to be great. Drawing his own linemates offside constantly is a good start to what was wring with the guy.
- RynoBull

........ I want to throw a shoe at you.


you are discrediting him as a hockey player because of his teammates being off sides.

Public opinion while sway which one they choose. So says Byron Brown. I vote for Pegulaville.
- RynoBull

Neither plan sounds like an incredible revenue generator as far as making a material dent in finances is concerned, but at least Pegula's plan is something different. All Paladino is looking to give is more hotels, offices, and apartments, which we have enough unused in the city already.

........ I want to throw a shoe at you.


you are discrediting him as a hockey player because of his teammates being off sides.


- JVince11

There is some validity to that point. A big part of Max's problem is that he was so unpredictable that his teammates had no clue what he was going to do, making all 5 of them a liability.

........ I want to throw a shoe at you.

- JVince11

The curious case of Geoff Sanderson.

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ats/pdisplay.php?pid=4749