I dont see being impatient being a problem seeing the reluctance of the Flames to pull the trade trigger on our older stars. Reality is by the time Kipper & Iggy arent wearing Flames Jerseys, this kid will hopefully be showing his talents & ready to make the next step. In 2-3 years, I expect to see Brodie & Baerschte hitting levels comparable to where Eberle & Hall are at (please note I'm not comparing the players per sec but league perception of being established NHL talents).
- Kevin R

I think Sven is one of my favourite NHL prospects.

Guy was an absolute force on the Winterhawks team. That team was stacked and he was easily the best player on the team.

Made Brad Ross a 40+ goal 80+ pt guy in the WHL

You can almost ask the very same question about all draftees.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Much more risky when they go the NCAA route

youre almost playing against men in the NCAA
- Colin Dambrauskas

That doesn't mean much when you compare talent levels. I know you'd like NCAA to mean that Jankowski is developing against superior competition but the reality is that CHL>NCAA in pretty much every way development wise. The advantage the NCAA has is that you can get a college education on scholarship. But hockey wise most guys with NHL aspirations will go major junior.

That doesn't mean much when you compare talent levels. I know you'd like NCAA to mean that Jankowski is developing against superior competition but the reality is that CHL>NCAA in pretty much every way development wise. The advantage the NCAA has is that you can get a college education on scholarship. But hockey wise most guys with NHL aspirations will go major junior.
- GuyLaDouche

I do agree with him that the game is faster and the players are bigger stronger but less talented.

That doesn't mean much when you compare talent levels. I know you'd like NCAA to mean that Jankowski is developing against superior competition but the reality is that CHL>NCAA in pretty much every way development wise. The advantage the NCAA has is that you can get a college education on scholarship. But hockey wise most guys with NHL aspirations will go major junior.
- GuyLaDouche

Yes, youre right...but I would argue that if the main goal for the player is to develop physically, the NCAA route may be a tad better.

Much more risky when they go the NCAA route
- Iggysbff

No its not. It takes a very unique situation for this to occur, thats why you don't see more players doing it. Besides, i'm sure the new CBA will address this.

My prediction is that Schultz gets his bell rung at some point this season because of the way he handled his situation.

No its not. It takes a very unique situation for this to occur, thats why you don't see more players doing it. Besides, i'm sure the new CBA will address this.

My prediction is that Schultz gets his bell rung at some point this season because of the way he handled his situation.
- B_def

Most likely by an Anaheim player for screwing the team over.

No its not. It takes a very unique situation for this to occur, thats why you don't see more players doing it. Besides, i'm sure the new CBA will address this.

My prediction is that Schultz gets his bell rung at some point this season because of the way he handled his situation.
- B_def

Just like Blake Wheeler did

Just like Blake Wheeler did
- Reveen

hahah

I cant wait to see what Flames fans do if and when Jankowski scores 25 some odd points this year and finishes not at, but reasonably close to a PPG.

Oh, how the opinions will change.

I do agree with him that the game is faster and the players are bigger stronger but less talented.
- wolfos412

I just don't think its faster or bigger (arguable) by a wide enough margin to make that a major factor.I think NCAA is making strides and I hope you're correct to a certain degree as Justin Schultz is a product of the NCAA, but in the end the very best are almost always products of major-junior.

I just don't think its faster or bigger (arguable) by a wide enough margin to make that a major factor.I think NCAA is making strides and I hope you're correct to a certain degree as Justin Schultz is a product of the NCAA, but in the end the very best are almost always products of major-junior.
- GuyLaDouche

I think the culture is slightly changing in the NCAA, slightly in a few years the 2 leagues will be comparable I'm sure.

Ps. Just watched the Will Ferrel highlight video on TSN. Man that guy is funny.

No its not. It takes a very unique situation for this to occur, thats why you don't see more players doing it. Besides, i'm sure the new CBA will address this.

My prediction is that Schultz gets his bell rung at some point this season because of the way he handled his situation.
- B_def

He didn't ask for any media attention. He just didn't want to play in Anaheim and used a perfectly legal clause to leave. A bunch of teams wanted him so he talked to them. Hardly his fault that the media blew it up like they did.

I think he faces typical pressure for a rookie. I really don't think established players care enough to go out of their way to nail him.

I just don't think its faster or bigger (arguable) by a wide enough margin to make that a major factor.I think NCAA is making strides and I hope you're correct to a certain degree as Justin Schultz is a product of the NCAA, but in the end the very best are almost always products of major-junior.
- GuyLaDouche

http://collegehockeyinc.c...er-collegians-nhl-2011-12

I cant wait to see what Flames fans do if and when Jankowski scores 25 some odd points this year and finishes not at, but reasonably close to a PPG.

Oh, how the opinions will change.
- mochoson

Why what do you expect, us doing a lemming jump? More worried in 2 years when he is filling out & he should be significantly close to the NHL if he's as talented as we are hearing. Its not like this pick was a lottery pick we pittled away.

He didn't ask for any media attention. He just didn't want to play in Anaheim and used a perfectly legal clause to leave. A bunch of teams wanted him so he talked to them. Hardly his fault that the media blew it up like they did.

I think he faces typical pressure for a rookie. I really don't think established players care enough to go out of their way to nail him.
- GuyLaDouche

Yea, what a diva.

Yea, what a diva.
- B_def

Now now, dont b jelly bro.

Colin Dambrauskas: Jankowski Chooses NCAA; Is It The Right Choice?
- Colin Dambrauskas

going the ncaa route is good. you get an education as well.
i'm guessing that he'll play in the chl as a 20 year old.
who own his chl rights?

http://collegehockeyinc.com/pages/former-collegians-nhl-2011-12


- Colin Dambrauskas

Cool Link, 300 players, thats close to half the NHL... (I realize there was no games played minimum)

Wait really? first line? That's impressive, though could make some bad blood in the locker room from the get go. Guys who have spent 3-4 years working hard to get that spot would be more than a little ticked that a kid walks right in and takes it without playing for the team yet.
- wolfos412

If you expect to be given a spot you don't deserve to be on the team.

You don't want the new kid to get more ice time than you? Outplay him.

If you expect to be given a spot you don't deserve to be on the team.

You don't want the new kid to get more ice time than you? Outplay him.
- jtommyt

Haha, that's what I mean though, shouldn't he have to earn it too? It sounded like the previous post was saying he immediately has the #1 C spot! Shouldn't he have to work to get that spot? That's part of development.

You can almost ask the very same question about all draftees.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Re-entering the Draft

A player not signed by his NHL team within two years of being drafted can re-enter the draft, as long as he is 20 years old or younger at the time of the subsequent draft. Players over 20 become unrestricted free agents.

NCAA players are an exception: NHL teams retain the rights to a college player until 30 days after the player has left college.

A team that does not sign a first-round draft pick is awarded a compensatory pick in a future draft upon losing the rights to that player.

A player who has been drafted a second time cannot re-enter.

Not sure if this matters but if you put a CHL team against a NCAA team the CHL team would win.

*peeks in on thread*