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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 31 @ 11:51 AM ET
Saying he "cannot fight" is a bit harsh. I just watched the 6 fights he had last year (hockeyfights.com)... Schenn can hold his own. He had one clear loss to Chris Neil (fighting vet), one clear win, and 4 close fights. He's got some raw skill, the size to fight with a little more experience - he'll be above average.

Plus, as others stated - it's not necessary for him to win fights, just hold his own while picking the correct time to drop them is probably more important. An all to painful memory on when not to drop'em... was the Talbot-Carcillo fight in the post season a few years ago. Carcillo clearly beat Talbot, but the fight woke up the Pens.

- leon neon


Luke will be dropping them quite a bit if Brayden can't improve putting himself in precarious positions
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 31 @ 11:53 AM ET
If Schenn can remain in the lineup as an effective 15-18 minute bottom pairing dman I'll be happy. Unfortunately, JvR could still blossom into something really special.
- Pixote Andolini



Luke Schenn has the potential to be more then that.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Jul 31 @ 11:54 AM ET
Met Rinaldo, Coots, and Read today.

No big deal.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 31 @ 11:54 AM ET
Luke will be dropping them quite a bit if Brayden can't improve putting himself in precarious positions
- Just5



That's doubtful. Brayden Schenn doesn't have that problem.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 31 @ 11:54 AM ET
Luke will be dropping them quite a bit if Brayden can't improve putting himself in precarious positions
- Just5

I don't know why everyone (not just talking about the Schenns here) thinks that putting brothers together on the same team is necessarily a good thing.

I still play hockey with my brothers, and it's amazing how we can still be as stupid as we were playing Atom together.

It will certainly add some emotion. But as stated above, that's not necessarily a good thing.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 31 @ 11:56 AM ET
Luke Schenn has the potential to be more then that.
- MJL

But that's where Philly fans should set their expectations for this year.

He completely lost his confidence. If you are expecting him to step in as your #3 and go 22+ minutes a night, it's a guarantee you will be booing him out of the building by Thanksgiving.

Go easy on him.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 31 @ 11:57 AM ET
If Schenn can remain in the lineup as an effective 15-18 minute bottom pairing dman I'll be happy. Unfortunately, JvR could still blossom into something really special.
- Pixote Andolini


if that's all we get out of schenn for the foreseeable future, it will be a tremendous disappointment.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 31 @ 12:00 PM ET
Tim Brown‏@TBrownYahoo

Phillies have traded Victorino to Dodgers for Lindblom and Ethan martin.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 31 @ 12:01 PM ET
But that's where Philly fans should set their expectations for this year.

He completely lost his confidence. If you are expecting him to step in as your #3 and go 22+ minutes a night, it's a guarantee you will be booing him out of the building by Thanksgiving.

Go easy on him.

- Atomic Wedgie


Philly always goes easy on it's athletes.

B-Wforever
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 09.16.2010

Jul 31 @ 12:03 PM ET
Remember how at 10:08 this morning I wrote:

Let's not pile unreasonable expectations on the kid.

That's the job of Toronto fans.


But yeah, top 2 by the end of the year.

Probably won't win the Norris, but will get plenty of consideration - especially after he punches the lights out of Chara.

- Atomic Wedgie


Top 2 on the flyers d is a little easier than top2 on the leafs d. (no offense to flyers fans)
Assuming Pronger is done for the year, and the flyers don't make any other moves, I can easily see Schenn playing beside Timmonen, ahead of Coburn, Mezaros and Grossman.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 31 @ 12:03 PM ET
so? carle has numerous detractors around here despite a high-level of play over the past three seasons.
- OrangeBlack27


Time will tell. Most gurus and experts look at things in a vaccuum and assume the past will always equal the future. I don't think you'll hear the praises in TB of how great Carle is with his puck moving.

But like most things, people will argue here until they're red in the face and proven wrong later what the topic is now longer discussed.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 31 @ 12:03 PM ET
Tim Brown‏@TBrownYahoo

Phillies have traded Victorino to Dodgers for Lindblom and Ethan martin.

- stveshdy


Is either a goalie?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 31 @ 12:05 PM ET
Is either a goalie?
- Daman


No sir.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 31 @ 12:09 PM ET
Met Rinaldo, Coots, and Read today.

No big deal.

- KGBflyers10

At Barnes & Noble?
MLeafs81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sundin, Sakic, Nolan, Kamensky, ect that's a comparable group toHall, Ebs, Nuge and Yak-Jeropotato, ON
Joined: 07.16.2012

Jul 31 @ 12:09 PM ET
Luke Schenn has the potential to be more then that.
- MJL



Really cause at the deadline all of the flyers fan said it should be schenn++ for JVR cause schenns potential wasn't close to JVRs?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 31 @ 12:10 PM ET
Really cause at the deadline all of the flyers fan said it should be schenn++ for JVR cause schenns potential wasn't close to JVRs?
- MLeafs81

Trade value factors in a lot more than potential.
eshake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.20.2009

Jul 31 @ 12:13 PM ET
Luke Schenn has the potential to be more then that.
- MJL


Luke Schenn is ALREADY more than that (3rd pairing 15-18 min dman)

eshake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.20.2009

Jul 31 @ 12:13 PM ET
Really cause at the deadline all of the flyers fan said it should be schenn++ for JVR cause schenns potential wasn't close to JVRs?
- MLeafs81


not this guy
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Jul 31 @ 12:13 PM ET
At Barnes & Noble?
- aightwebang17


haha no, they were with Will Ferrell and Zac G today. All of them were nice guys, Rinaldo especially.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 31 @ 12:13 PM ET
No sir.
- stveshdy


Much like Gary Maddox for us older guys, Victorino will always be looked upon favorably (at least by me) for the great championship year.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 31 @ 12:14 PM ET
Much like Gary Maddox for us older guys, Victorino will always be looked upon favorably (at least by me) for the great championship year.
- Daman


Time to blow up the roster. Ruben needs to send some more players packing today.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 31 @ 12:16 PM ET
Time to blow up the roster. Ruben needs to send some more players packing today.
- stveshdy


We kept Hamels. F the rest.

MLeafs81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sundin, Sakic, Nolan, Kamensky, ect that's a comparable group toHall, Ebs, Nuge and Yak-Jeropotato, ON
Joined: 07.16.2012

Jul 31 @ 12:23 PM ET
not this guy

- eshake



My mistake 99% of flyer fans
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 31 @ 12:27 PM ET
Time to blow up the roster. Ruben needs to send some more players packing today.
- stveshdy


Pence is gone.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 31 @ 12:29 PM ET
Met Rinaldo, Coots, and Read today.

No big deal.

- KGBflyers10


Awesome. Where'd you meet em? Matt Read was fantastic when I got to meet him in Boston. Rinaldo was very approachable as well and I told him I used to use Lindros all the time on the old Sega and P21 and 2 NHL games as well..
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