I've said it before ,Toronto have only 3-4 players of interest for the Canucks. They are untouchable in Burkes eyes, so Burke has moved on ,and Gillis has moved on but evey day we have fans in here telling us we have to take Komi. There is no deal .Let it go . If Luongo plays most of the year or full year here who cares .
- VANTEL

I wonder what Luongo would fetch from a desperate team at the TDL?

This is not entirely true a work stoppage makes Luongo a year older and theoretically less valuable to another team, If the Nucks want anything decent they can't just sit on Lou unless they decide to keep him and trade Schneider.

It's a distraction no one wants that for their teams Trade Lu at 33 not 34 obv
- MindFr3eak

I think you should stop worrying about Vancouvers goalie situation .It will give you an ulcer.

I wonder what Luongo would fetch from a desperate team at the TDL?
- fiveandagame

I am pretty sure that is when we will see him moved.

I've said it before ,Toronto have only 3-4 players of interest for the Canucks. They are untouchable in Burkes eyes, so Burke has moved on ,and Gillis has moved on but evey day we have fans in here telling us we have to take Komi. There is no deal .Let it go . If Luongo plays most of the year or full year here who cares .
- VANTEL

Moreso if this is true, it should make a trade to Florida that much easier.

Obv if it was our problem we would want a good return also,but in your position you don't need a large return, you need to fill some holes and makeanother run and move on.

Bottom line..... You need to trade Luongo away and move forward.

I think you should stop worrying about Vancouvers goalie situation .It will give you an ulcer.
- VANTEL

Nah just having a chat with the west coasters, In the end it''s just overpaid players and were all still broke.

Plus I love Luongo so where he goes interests me,

Fun to kill time too.

Moreso if this is true, it should make a trade to Florida that much easier.

Obv if it was our problem we would want a good return also,but in your position you don't need a large return, you need to fill some holes and makeanother run and move on.

Bottom line..... You need to trade Luongo away and move forward.
- MindFr3eak

Bottom Line...........Gillis won't panic and get fleeced just to try and "move forward"

Even there was a deal that both Gillis and Burke were happy with, there is still no confirmation that Luongo would waive his NTC to go to Toronto.
- fiveandagame

This is true,but Luongo did say earlier in an interview to the media he would play in TO or Chi

Moreso if this is true, it should make a trade to Florida that much easier.

Obv if it was our problem we would want a good return also,but in your position you don't need a large return, you need to fill some holes and makeanother run and move on.

Bottom line..... You need to trade Luongo away and move forward.
- MindFr3eak

There are other teams that could come into the mix. I think Lu will play a good chunk of next season right here.

Bottom Line...........Gillis won't panic and get fleeced just to try and "move forward"
- fiveandagame

+1

This is true,but Luongo did say earlier in an interview to the media he would play in TO or Chi
- VANTEL

Hopefully he opens up his list a little more, SJ would be a great fit but no way he stays in the west.

This is true,but Luongo did say earlier in an interview to the media he would play in TO or Chi
- VANTEL

OK - I didn't know that.

Hopefully he opens up his list a little more, SJ would be a great fit but no way he stays in the west.
- MindFr3eak

I don't believe he has a list, I think he will play wherever he is asked to. I also think that Gillis wouldn't ask him to play in a place where he doesn't have a legitimate chance to contend. Now, those two things conspire to make a short list of possibilities, but I don't think this list is Luongo's doing.

Hopefully he opens up his list a little more, SJ would be a great fit but no way he stays in the west.
- MindFr3eak

I don't think anyone really knows what his list is. If Gillis would be willing to trade him to Chicago then I could see Gillis willing to trade him to SJ.

Unrelated, but check out Messier's stubby, those were great.

Wow, it's a double Panther fan fiesta in here. The contention that Theodore is good enough is dubious. He had his best year in forever last year and you made the playoffs by the skin of your teeth. You division got better and your team got worse. Even if he repeats his last year, it may not be enough. I know you guys might be patient about the future, but Tallon has to generate income and keep the momentum of improvement. Playoffs are the goal adn Lu can help with that. Whether Bjugstad is a star in 3 years or not, Lu can help get the playoffs for the next 3-6 seasons. That makes the trade not unreasonable.
- micah555

I don't see how we have gotten worse we loss garrison we gained huberdeau! If mueller can stay health that's a huge gain. Kuba is a good replacement for garrison.
Yes our division got better. But you tell me where we got weaker.

This is true,but Luongo did say earlier in an interview to the media he would play in TO or Chi
- VANTEL

I think Luongo would get a kick out of playing for Toronto or Chicago and beating Vancouver.

I think Luongo would get a kick out of playing for Toronto or Chicago and beating Vancouver.
- DarthKane

For sure. I think it's funny that people are talking about how awkward it would be if Luongo came back to the Canucks. I think it would be more awkward if he showed up in the Hawks dressing room.

Hopefully he opens up his list a little more, SJ would be a great fit but no way he stays in the west.
- MindFr3eak

There is no list .

I still think the place Lu goes will be to Chicago. They have been awfully silent and they legitimately have a stanley cup team with the addition of Lu. Florida has markstrom and reality is he is ready in a year or 2 to be an NHL starting Goalie. At that time Lu is untradeable so it doesn't make much sense for them to go get Lu. Fla is better off missing the playoffs and then in 2014 giving the starting job to markstrom.

Chi just makes too much sense for that deal not to happen. Burke and gillis just have too much bad blood for either side to give in.

If we start the season with Luongo and Schneider then I consider the Luongo contract a complete failure. The plan a year ago was to settle in with Luongo long term and trade a blue chip asset for a big return as the possible over the top aquisition/s... but instead we end up having to dump salary elsewhere to fit Doan(for doan to even consider here) and/or not then having cap space to add a 3rd line C and completely roll the dice on Schroeder to fill in for Kes. Then Schroeder has to settle into a different role on the 3rd when Kes returns...thats quite the gamble. If that backfires,,,there will be nothing but pressure to make a Lu move.

I am not at all content the start the season in this position and definitly not interested in the nagging side show of a publicly known mid season trade in the works. Its better to start the season sans GT controversy...

If it were other circumstances, holding Lu for the moment a team is in serious mid season need could pay off well....or not pay off this season at all. The value available may not be what we are looking for and there is no way of telling who you are going to be dealing with.

I believe it best to move Ballard *right now* if possible even for a low return. He opens the door for Doan knowing there will still be cap room for depth and it will strengthen Gillis' position in negotiating a LU trade. A #5/6 dman will not be tough to aquire and a reasonable cap hit can be assumed. It also creates room in a Lu deal with the new position opening up... the question is will Gillis concede on his poor trade for Ballard by dumping him? I hope he would man up and do whats best for the team.

If we start the season with Luongo and Schneider then I consider the Luongo contract a complete failure. The plan a year ago was to settle in with Luongo long term and trade a blue chip asset for a big return as the possible over the top aquisition/s... but instead we end up having to dump salary elsewhere to fit Doan(for doan to even consider here) and/or not then having cap space to add a 3rd line C and completely roll the dice on Schroeder to fill in for Kes. Then Schroeder has to settle into a different role on the 3rd when Kes returns...thats quite the gamble. If that backfires,,,there will be nothing but pressure to make a Lu move.

I am not at all content the start the season in this position and definitly not interested in the nagging side show of a publicly known mid season trade in the works. Its better to start the season sans GT controversy...

If it were other circumstances, holding Lu for the moment a team is in serious mid season need could pay off well....or not pay off this season at all. The value available may not be what we are looking for and there is no way of telling who you are going to be dealing with.

I believe it best to move Ballard *right now* if possible even for a low return. He opens the door for Doan knowing there will still be cap room for depth and it will strengthen Gillis' position in negotiating a LU trade. A #5/6 dman will not be tough to aquire and a reasonable cap hit can be assumed. It also creates room in a Lu deal with the new position opening up... the question is will Gillis concede on his poor trade for Ballard by dumping him? I hope he would man up and do whats best for the team.
- boonerbuck

Totally agree here. If Lu was the guy we gave the big money to which we did then we should have traded schnieds at the deadline 2 years ago or even this year. The assets we could have received via a deal could have put us over the hump. We have a small window of opportunity to win the cup. once the Sedins are past their prime we will be a middle of the pack team unless we can get another duo to become Hart trophy winners.

I believe it best to move Ballard *right now* if possible even for a low return. He opens the door for Doan knowing there will still be cap room for depth and it will strengthen Gillis' position in negotiating a LU trade. A #5/6 dman will not be tough to aquire and a reasonable cap hit can be assumed. It also creates room in a Lu deal with the new position opening up... the question is will Gillis concede on his poor trade for Ballard by dumping him? I hope he would man up and do whats best for the team.
- boonerbuck

Gillis may be stubborn but I don't believe he is above conceding his mistakes, see Schneider, Mathieu and Sturm, Marco.

Hockeyy Insiderr‏@HockeyyInsiderr

More on Doan: hearing from very well plugged source in VANCity Shane has met #Canucks officials over the weekend. An offer is on the table.

Also Rumour_Express is reporting Canucks are the Frontrunners for doan.

A couple of random doods, Interesting nonetheless.

I still think the place Lu goes will be to Chicago. They have been awfully silent and they legitimately have a stanley cup team with the addition of Lu. Florida has markstrom and reality is he is ready in a year or 2 to be an NHL starting Goalie. At that time Lu is untradeable so it doesn't make much sense for them to go get Lu. Fla is better off missing the playoffs and then in 2014 giving the starting job to markstrom.

Chi just makes too much sense for that deal not to happen. Burke and gillis just have too much bad blood for either side to give in.
- Bluechip23

See I think SJ. They are desprete to shake up that team.
To sharks: luongo and Booth
To canucks Clowe and Murrey
Sharks move Neimi back to chi