Luongo to Panthers UPDATE!


http://nhlbeat.blogspot.c...ore-panthers-updates.html

Thoughts?
- Wolfpack12

Ah, another person who checks out nhlbeat, I write a blog there myself.

And then Botchford writes, "Luongo can deny it all he wants, but he has to be moved before the puck drops on the 2012-13 season."

And then Atomic Wedgie proposes Komisarek, D'Amigo and a 3rd.

Oh, and Steckel.
- Atomic Wedgie

I think most people are also forgetting that Lou has already said the Leafs are not on his list of teams he would be willing to go to?

financially strapped?? not bloody likely
- MindFr3eak

You missed it too, eh? Sorry to go over your heads like that. Here, I'll simplify it: it's called irony. All this talk about the financial implications of Luongo's contract means it must be a team in financial difficulties.

Let's face it the contract is what scares everyone away for the most part. But there is also the fact he is not a playoff performer. He is mentally shaky, if he couldn't get Vancouver over the hump how could he ever do it in Toronto?

A quick list of some of the current NHL tenders who post better numbers in the post season compared to the regular season:

Thomas
Quick
Smith
Hiller
Ward
Kipper
Theodore
Halak
Broduer
Vokoun
Miller
Anderson
Crawford
Nabokov

Schneider

Luongo plays great in the regular season but is Jekyll and hyde in the playoffs. Some games he plays outstanding then other times he gets pulled 3 times in a series. (in his defense on that Boston series he was hardly the only one to choke)

Giv the NHL GM's a little credit. They don't need to hear it from the players to see the situation for what it is. You seem to think that the GM's need the media hype to keep their awareness level up to that of the casual hockey fan.
- boonerbuck

They should have spun whatever story necessary to divert the fact that Lu was done in Vancouver...That's all I'm saying...They didn't protect their interest properly...

There was no way to keep it on the down-low.
- Atomic Wedgie

Good, this is where I figured we would agree to disagree...I always enjoy your opinion...

Let's face it the contract is what scares everyone away for the most part. But there is also the fact he is not a playoff performer. He is mentally shaky, if he couldn't get Vancouver over the hump how could he ever do it in Toronto?

A quick list of some of the current NHL tenders who post better numbers in the post season compared to the regular season:

Thomas
Quick
Smith
Hiller
Ward
Kipper
Theodore
Halak
Broduer
Vokoun
Miller
Anderson
Crawford
Nabokov

Schneider

Luongo plays great in the regular season but is Jekyll and hyde in the playoffs. Some games he plays outstanding then other times he gets pulled 3 times in a series. (in his defense on that Boston series he was hardly the only one to choke)
- Blazed

over the hump
the other team could play with 3 players and there isn't a goalie in the history of the NHL that could get that cast of misfits Burke has assembled over the hump. Luongo could get them in the playoffs. That alone should be enough to get him hart and vezina consideration. The leafs have a better shot at an NBA championship then an NHL one

You missed it too, eh? Sorry to go over your heads like that. Here, I'll simplify it: it's called irony. All this talk about the financial implications of Luongo's contract means it must be a team in financial difficulties.
- Vagabond

It would really come downto can LU play like Brodeur up to 40 years old? If he can the trades a steal, if he cannot it is a cap crippling contract for a few years and more if he does not retire like many think he will do.

over the hump
the other team could play with 3 players and there isn't a goalie in the history of the NHL that could get that cast of misfits Burke has assembled over the hump. Luongo could get them in the playoffs. That alone should be enough to get him hart and vezina consideration. The leafs have a better shot at an NBA championship then an NHL one
- Bieksa#3

Few more years with no cups and aging players and you will be right back here where we are right now with nothing to show for it.... Fun to laugh now but what goes up comes crashing down hard.

We haven't had a good farm system for years. We have one with Tallon. Bjugstad is going to be our future #1 Center. No way he gets included in any trade for Luongo. Speaking of goaltending depth, we have that, too. We would maybe include McFarland. Yeah Bjugstad hasn't laced them up in an NHL contest yet, but he has laced them up in our development camp. He is a huge force. Skates amazingly. He is exactly the type of player Tallon and our fans want here. Luongo is great, but not at the cost of our future offensively. Think about it.. in a few years Luongo will be retiring and Bjugstad will be scoring goals. Then who loses? It's all about the future.
- Panthers88

Good realistic post.

I do not see Bjugstad as part of any move. He's a monster and part of the future.

As far as Luongo making the Panthers a better team today, that's a possibility, but for how long? We are OK in the net, and we should be good with that. As far as Garrison, Panther fans wish him luck I'm sure. At the same time, he was mentored rather quickly by Campbell and Jovanoski. Let's see what he does now. For his sake I hope he does well, he seemed like a good guy. His departure leaves a hungry player an opening to step up and claim his spot. I have no problem with that either.

We can't give up too much for Luongo. There is no pressing need. If we can swap him out for Scotty Upshall straight up, do it.

VANCOUVER -- The Vancouver Canucks signed right-winger Guillaume Desbiens on Monday.

The 27-year-old has played in 23 NHL games with the Canucks and the Calgary Flames, collecting 37 penalty minutes.

Desbiens split last season with the Flames and the AHL's Abbotsford Heat.

Desbiens registered 14 points and 114 penalty minutes in 59 games with the Heat and 25 penalty minutes in 10 games with the Flames.

The Alma, Que., native was originally selected by the Atlanta Thrashers 116th overall in the 2003 NHL draft.

a la TSN

It would really come downto can LU play like Brodeur up to 40 years old? If he can the trades a steal, if he cannot it is a cap crippling contract for a few years and more if he does not retire like many think he will do.
- MindFr3eak

I don't think it would be an issue. Lu has amazing conditioning. That being said he,s not playing the last 4 yrs of the deal.

I don't think it would be an issue. Lu has amazing conditioning. That being said he,s not playing the last 4 yrs of the deal.
- Bieksa#3

Lu is so damn competitive, maybe 2 years i think

Good realistic post.

I do not see Bjugstad as part of any move. He's a monster and part of the future.

As far as Luongo making the Panthers a better team today, that's a possibility, but for how long? We are OK in the net, and we should be good with that. As far as Garrison, Panther fans wish him luck I'm sure. At the same time, he was mentored rather quickly by Campbell and Jovanoski. Let's see what he does now. For his sake I hope he does well, he seemed like a good guy. His departure leaves a hungry player an opening to step up and claim his spot. I have no problem with that either.

We can't give up too much for Luongo. There is no pressing need. If we can swap him out for Scotty Upshall straight up, do it.
- PanthersGoal

I would rather we trade Kopecky than Upshall. I don't think Scottie got a fair deal last season. He wasn't healthy at all. Kopecky is slow and unexciting.

Few more years with no cups and aging players and you will be right back here where we are right now with nothing to show for it.... Fun to laugh now but what goes up comes crashing down hard.
- MindFr3eak

Almost as bad as the we won a cup 150 yrs ago. Gets pretty old doesn't it? Yet you guys continue to use it

I would rather we trade Kopecky than Upshall. I don't think Scottie got a fair deal last season. He wasn't healthy at all. Kopecky is slow and unexciting.
- Panthers88

I could be convinced of that. TBH, I'd give Vancouver the choice of either, straight up and no more.

I would rather we trade Kopecky than Upshall. I don't think Scottie got a fair deal last season. He wasn't healthy at all. Kopecky is slow and unexciting.
- Panthers88

I get your point. But it is very clear you haven't thought it out very well or are a homer. If the only thing van gets is a salary dump and as you pros say they "have" to move him. Then y wouldn't we wave him and let clb have him and no bad contract. Not saying there will not be a contract coming back but you can't have it both ways. They are going to have to include an asset with the salary dump.

I could be convinced of that. TBH, I'd give Vancouver the choice of either, straight up and no more.
- PanthersGoal

Agree'd. Otherwise, we are in no hurry. We have some amazing depth in goal right now.

Lu is so damn competitive, maybe 2 years i think
- MindFr3eak

If you look at the payout, the last 3 yrs is a given. The 4th seems awful likely

I get your point. But it is very clear you haven't thought it out very well or are a homer. If the only thing van gets is a salary dump and as you pros say they "have" to move him. Then y wouldn't we wave him and let clb have him and no bad contract. Not saying there will not be a contract coming back but you can't have it both ways. They are going to have to include an asset with the salary dump.
- Bieksa#3

Maybe you guys should just keep him.

I get your point. But it is very clear you haven't thought it out very well or are a homer. If the only thing van gets is a salary dump and as you pros say they "have" to move him. Then y wouldn't we wave him and let clb have him and no bad contract. Not saying there will not be a contract coming back but you can't have it both ways. They are going to have to include an asset with the salary dump.
- Bieksa#3

Nope. We don't HAVE to include an asset. And if we do, it isn't going to be one like Bjugstad. Like I said, I'm perfectly okay with letting McFarland go in a trade. There's nothing wrong with him. Good skater. He can hit. Score... Bjugstad is a legit future #1 center in thie league. We've never had one of those before. No way Tallon gives him up, especially since he traded for the pick to get him! And remember, if you don't trade Luongo he sits on the bench and gets paid. You trade him for a Kopecky or Upshall, then at least they are on the ice contributing.

Maybe you guys should just keep him.
- PanthersGoal

Maybe you guys should just keep him.
- PanthersGoal

Or waive him all I'm asking is for common sense.

Nope. We don't HAVE to include an asset. And if we do, it isn't going to be one like Bjugstad. Like I said, I'm perfectly okay with letting McFarland go in a trade. There's nothing wrong with him. Good skater. He can hit. Score... Bjugstad is a legit future #1 center in thie league. We've never had one of those before. No way Tallon gives him up, especially since he traded for the pick to get him! And remember, if you don't trade Luongo he sits on the bench and gets paid. You trade him for a Kopecky or Upshall, then at least they are on the ice contributing.
- Panthers88

See if that's your opinion that's fine. But to say Upshaw or Kopecky makes no sense. We could waive luongo then we have no bad contract.

How about this

to florida

Luongo, Hansen, 2nd rounder

To Van

Weiss and a 3rd


Lappy shifts to wing on third lineTanev


Sedin Sedin Burr
Blank Kesler Booth
Higgins Weiss Lappy
Kassian Malhotra Volpatti

Eddi garri
Hammy Bieksa
Bally tanev

Schneids
lack

with the extra make a push for doan 5 mill 4 years and he basically gets his cup