you van fans are insane. Every GM is laughing with content knowing that you are stuck with Bobby Lou. To Chicago , Bobby, to Van Frolik , Olesh, bag of pucks.
- Dojodan

Why would they trade a star goalie to a rival and give the Hawks a piece that they've been missing for years? If the Hawks get LU it would have to be a significant upgrade over what Florida and T.O are offering.

Then we draft top 5 again, not a horrible place to be. But I would personally prefer fighting for a playoff spot.

What do you think it would take to get Luo on TO?
- Pagelite

There is no way of knowing exactly what is in Gillis' mind, but I would suspect that if there were players/prospects/picks that addressed specific needs for the Canucks organization that Gillis would listen. Third line C is a spot that needs to be filled and while Lapiere is capable of doing a good job there, he is valuable as the 4th line C, so a guy like Steckel or Bozak is a good start. There is also a spot open for 2nd line RW, but I think Gillis is trying to fill this through FA, or possibly internally (Kassian maybe).

Next, if Ballard is to remain, Gillis may be looking for a depth dman to compliment Alberts, or he may feel that his D is set and be looking for a prospect to help out in Chicago this year. We currently have Connauton (pmd), Sauve (shd) and Corrado possibly ready in the next couple years beyond that there isn't much, so a quality D prospect is probably on the list.

Finally, I would expect a high draft pick would be appreciated. For me, like Ian suggested a conditional pick would be suitable. If TO makes the playoffs its a first, if not it's a second. The draft position of these two picks would be fairly close, so maybe its a first if they make it or a second AND a third if they don't, or something to that effect.

you van fans are insane. Every GM is laughing with content knowing that you are stuck with Bobby Lou. To Chicago , Bobby, to Van Frolik , Olesh, bag of pucks.
- Dojodan

If it is a pure salary dump y wouldn't Vancouver waive him To say this is common sense is an understatement

Jonas was outplaying him...and he was clear to play by doctors? How can heal more?
- pker2theend

Then we draft top 5 again, not a horrible place to be. But I would personally prefer fighting for a playoff spot.

What do you think it would take to get Luo on TO?
- Pagelite

Kessel+

The other interesting thing was Roberto Luongo finishing third in voting. Everyone outside of Vancouver thinks that Luongo has no value, yet 15% of people in Vancouver (for the most part) think he is the best player on a Presidents Trophy winning team.

First of all most of the chirping comes out of the East about how bad Lu is . The fact that most of them have seen very few games of the Canucks and know squat. They don't stay up until 1 AM to watch the games and they really have no idea of wht is going on in a regular basis with the Canucks. Most of them jump on the bandwagon and repeat things that their friends tell them.

Lu would be an up grade on all teams except NYR Nash and LA . This is why it is stupid to entertain offers with other fans from other teams. They really don't know what they are talking about and if they want they can miss the playoffs .

Hambuis is a 2B Dman in my opinion.

Read the rest of the post. Terrible all around hockey player. Buffalo and atl gave up on him for a reason. He may score 25 but be to blame for 40 against
- Bieksa#3

Not sure you have watched him very much. Look at his stats, he was a + player on a very bad team with not many + players on it.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/pl...&status=&viewName=summary

"Everyone outside Vancouver thinks he has no trade value" Thats a crazy statement. Everyone outside Vancouver thinks he HAS value, just not the same value everyone IN Vancouver thinks he has.

No doubt, he is a good goalie and can help some teams (for now anyway), you people in Vancouver act like he has a three year contract at 5 million a year. You people don't think he has a terrible contract at all. If he is so great, then keep him and trade his backup, oh wait are you saying his backup is better, younger and cheaper then he is?

Your GM gave Lu a stupid contract especially when he knew he had a great kid on the bench. Lu will be traded because you have no choice, but you won't get nearly close to what you fans want for him.

Kessel+
- Boinker

hahahah your funny

you van fans are insane. Every GM is laughing with content knowing that you are stuck with Bobby Lou. To Chicago , Bobby, to Van Frolik , Olesh, bag of pucks.
- Dojodan

Your team is a fringe playoff team with two rusty sieves and while our team will be competing for the conference title. Not sure how funny that makes the situation for Stan Bowman.

Read the rest of the post. Terrible all around hockey player. Buffalo and atl gave up on him for a reason. He may score 25 but be to blame for 40 against
- Bieksa#3

He was +3 last year on a team with the 5th worst goal differential in the league.

That's the best +/- of any Leaf last year.

The thing about Brian Burke, is he gets better with time. It took him 5 years to turn the Canucks into annual competitors. 3 years to turn the ducks into cup winners. It only took him 1 year to turn the leafs into the best hockey team in NHL history.


Some people say the 56-57 canadiens were the best, Some say the 86-87 oilers, some say the 72 bruins...hell some might even argue the 74 Flyers were the best at playing the game it was meant to be played. But I think we could agree that all those morons were wrong because everyone knows that the 08-12 Leafs are the best hockey teams to ever grace the NHL with their presence
- I-own_da-Northwest

Not sure you have watched him very much. Look at his stats, he was a + player on a very bad team with not many + players on it.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/pl...&status=&viewName=summary
- Pagelite

He's part of the reason they are so bad. I've seen lots of him and to say he's lazy is a massive understatement

Hey boys, no insults or you're getting a time out. That goes for Canucks fans and Leaf fans (and any other fans).

He was +3 last year on a team with the 5th worst goal differential in the league.

That's the best +/- of any Leaf last year.
- Atomic Wedgie

I believe I read Semin has the 5th best +/- in the league over the last 5 yrs. Yet no selke nominations

" I know that contract is so/so "

SO/SO ? Really ?

Not to mention shlttling the bed and losing the starting job in the playoffs !

Get off the glue
- .HOHO.

Lu was the Canucks best player in the 2 games he played. The team played retched. Something had to change and Schneider played lights out while losing. It certainly wasn't on Lu.

The other interesting thing was Roberto Luongo finishing third in voting. Everyone outside of Vancouver thinks that Luongo has no value, yet 15% of people in Vancouver (for the most part) think he is the best player on a Presidents Trophy winning team.

First of all most of the chirping comes out of the East about how bad Lu is . The fact that most of them have seen very few games of the Canucks and know squat. They don't stay up until 1 AM to watch the games and they really have no idea of wht is going on in a regular basis with the Canucks. Most of them jump on the bandwagon and repeat things that their friends tell them.

Lu would be an up grade on all teams except NYR Nash and LA . This is why it is stupid to entertain offers with other fans from other teams. They really don't know what they are talking about and if they want they can miss the playoffs .

Hambuis is a 2B Dman in my opinion.
- VANTEL

I'm not big on this type of a label for players. Hamhuis and Bieksa have (for the most part) been playing against every other team's top line / PK etc and have done it with outstanding +/- results, while putting up significant points at even strength and on the PP. To me, this makes Hamhuis a "#1" D because he does everything that a team's top defenceman is asked to do, but I wouldn't label him as such, because I think that either of our potential pairings (#2/#3 or #23/#6) are capable of accomplishing the same thing this year.

you van fans are insane. Every GM is laughing with content knowing that you are stuck with Bobby Lou. To Chicago , Bobby, to Van Frolik , Olesh, bag of pucks.
- Dojodan

good..rather be stuck with LUO..than what u have

Hey boys, no insults or you're getting a time out. That goes for Canucks fans and Leaf fans (and any other fans).
- micah555

"Your team is a fringe playoff team with two rusty sieves and while our team will be competing for the conference title"
-Anonymous

that sounded a little insulting...
(feel free to edit or delete this if you fix it.)

good..rather be stuck with LUO..than what u have
- Canuckfan2006

Panther's not willing to add good prospect in package for Lu...

The rhetoric around the Luongo trade is getting stale. Canucks’ fans want value in return and who can blame them. Luongo is elite. But the fact remains it’s a buyer’s market with very few buyer’s. With those conditions, it’s not the seller that determines the price…it’s the buyer. So guess what? Vancouver will not get Luongo’s value back in return for a trade. How do I know? Because he should’ve been traded by now… but he hasn’t.

Not sure you have watched him very much. Look at his stats, he was a + player on a very bad team with not many + players on it.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/pl...&status=&viewName=summary
- Pagelite

my Gawd he lead the team in +/-

Hey boys, no insults or you're getting a time out. That goes for Canucks fans and Leaf fans (and any other fans).
- micah555

Seems a little weird when combined with:

Your team is a fringe playoff team with two rusty sieves and while our team will be competing for the conference title. Not sure how funny that makes the situation for Stan Bowman.
- micah55

But on behalf of Leafs fans, if any Canucks fan wants to say that Bozak is not a #1 centre, we are OK with no banning.

That's not an insult - it's a fact.

Putting him on the ice as the #1 centre is the insult.

The rhetoric around the Luongo trade is getting stale. Canucks’ fans want value in return and who can blame them. Luongo is elite. But the fact remains it’s a buyer’s market with very few buyer’s. With those conditions, it’s not the seller that determines the price…it’s the buyer. So guess what? Vancouver will not get Luongo’s value back in return for a trade. How do I know? Because he should’ve been traded by now… but he hasn’t.
- Hockey_Hoser

It's a strange situation...He might be "elite" but they don't need him and that contract and could have used that money elsewhere if they would have dumped his sorry ass...

Seems a little weird when combined with:



But on behalf of Leafs fans, if any Canucks fan wants to say that Bozak is not a #1 centre, we are OK with no banning.

That's not an insult - it's a fact.

Putting him on the ice as the #1 centre is the insult.
- Atomic Wedgie