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NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 30 @ 10:02 AM ET
I dont know if this was touched on over the weekend, but its certainly interesting:

"As if fans of the Philadelphia Flyers needed another reason to dislike Sidney Crosby ...

As relayed by CSNPhilly.com, the Pittsburgh Penguins superstar is to blame for wrist injuries suffered by Flyers forward Claude Giroux. Injuries that required offseason surgery.

"Those are from Crosby," Giroux told Kevin Anderson of The Northern Times (Timmins, Ontario) when asked about the scars on his wrists. "Every time we'd line up against each other for a face-off during our series, instead of going for the puck when it was dropped, he'd hack me across the wrists. I ended up playing the series against Jersey with one of them fractured and had to go for surgery on both of them after we were out of the playoffs."

No response to this accusation from Crosby to date, as per the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. However, it was already determined that the Penguins forward would decline all interview requests this summer."

- Victoria Matiash

- JFlyers00


Is is one of the most overblown things that I've seen in a long time. If it was any player but Crosby, no one would care. THEY ARE PLAYING HOCKEY. HOCKEY.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jul 30 @ 10:05 AM ET
Is is one of the most overblown things that I've seen in a long time. If it was any player but Crosby, no one would care. THEY ARE PLAYING HOCKEY. HOCKEY.
- NickTheKid87


Craig Berube and I both disagree with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtPA7URfAWQ
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 30 @ 10:08 AM ET
Bill,

Is it unthinkable that Brandon Manning makes the team out of camp this season? He looked very solid in albeit only 4 NHL games last season. He moves the puck well and has a lot of offensive upside.

- PhillyLaFleur


The numbers game will make it very hard on Manning -- who is still waiver exempt -- to make the team out of camp. He'd have to play out of his mind.

Manning and Eriksson are both still waiver-exempt. Bourdon is not.

Barring a trade, the Flyers are forced to carry Lilja's cap hit (even if he's not on the active NHL roster), so they might as well carry him again as their 7th D.


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 30 @ 10:12 AM ET
The numbers game will make it very hard on Manning -- who is still waiver exempt -- to make the team out of camp. He'd have to play out of his mind.

Manning and Eriksson are both still waiver-exempt. Bourdon is not.

Barring a trade, the Flyers are forced to carry Lilja's cap hit (even if he's not on the active NHL roster), so they might as well carry him again as their 7th D.

- bmeltzer



I could think of worse things than having a capable veteran as a part time 7th d-man at a reasonable cap hit.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 30 @ 10:13 AM ET
Craig Berube and I both disagree with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtPA7URfAWQ

- JFlyers00


People can have their opinions but at the end of the day, if Giroux was doing this to Crosby everyone in this city would be calling him a hero. Play soccer if you don't want to get roughed up.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 30 @ 10:22 AM ET
Craig Berube and I both disagree with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtPA7URfAWQ

- JFlyers00


The battle of pa just gets better and better...
And is it just me or does anybody else want to vommit every time pinoccio opens his mouth?
dilbert719
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.30.2006

Jul 30 @ 10:22 AM ET
shame there's not a baseball buzz, would be fun with all the Phils trades coming
- vejim


Agreed, but there is an MLBtraderumors.com. Not exactly the same, but they do at least capture the bulk of the posted rumors out there.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jul 30 @ 10:46 AM ET
People can have their opinions but at the end of the day, if Giroux was doing this to Crosby everyone in this city would be calling him a hero. Play soccer if you don't want to get roughed up.
- NickTheKid87


I wouldn't. Intending to injure someone is wrong. You wanna beat a team do it by actually playing the sport... My biggest gripe with Crosby is he is a complete hypoctrite.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jul 30 @ 10:47 AM ET
The battle of pa just gets better and better...
And is it just me or does anybody else want to vommit every time pinoccio opens his mouth?

- twotoekenn


I think he is secretly a pens fan
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jul 30 @ 10:48 AM ET
I could think of worse things than having a capable veteran as a part time 7th d-man at a reasonable cap hit.
- MBFlyerfan


Agreed, let the kids develop more in the minors.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 30 @ 10:49 AM ET
Craig Berube and I both disagree with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtPA7URfAWQ

- JFlyers00


I CAN'T WAIT FOR NEXT SEASON!
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 30 @ 10:58 AM ET
I wouldn't. Intending to injure someone is wrong. You wanna beat a team do it by actually playing the sport... My biggest gripe with Crosby is he is a complete hypoctrite.
- JFlyers00



The game has been played like this since forever. Plus, look how Pronger played. He'd play dirty and wouldn't get caught all the time. Crosby has been a little hypocritical but I still don't think this whole thing is a big deal. Lesser known players do much worse on a more regular basis.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 30 @ 11:07 AM ET
How long until October?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 30 @ 11:11 AM ET
I CAN'T WAIT FOR NEXT SEASON!
- flyersfan51


hopefully they have one...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 11:13 AM ET
The game has been played like this since forever. Plus, look how Pronger played. He'd play dirty and wouldn't get caught all the time. Crosby has been a little hypocritical but I still don't think this whole thing is a big deal. Lesser known players do much worse on a more regular basis.
- NickTheKid87



I agree with you 100% Nick!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 30 @ 11:19 AM ET
there's a word for those of us Flyer fans who want to cry about this latest crosby thing: Hypocrites

as defined on Dictionary.com
Hypocrite
1.a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

We loved it when Clarkie did it. We loved it when Lindros demolished people and we love it when any number of the guys on the team do this stuff now. Giroux really needs to be ready for it next time around.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 30 @ 11:20 AM ET
Craig Berube and I both disagree with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtPA7URfAWQ

- JFlyers00



man those 8 games were fun
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:25 AM ET
there's a word for those of us Flyer fans who want to cry about this latest crosby thing: Hypocrites

as defined on Dictionary.com
Hypocrite
1.a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

We loved it when Clarkie did it. We loved it when Lindros demolished people and we love it when any number of the guys on the team do this stuff now. Giroux really needs to be ready for it next time around.

- JoeRussomanno



+1

See Chris Pronger, Danny Briere, Max Talbot, etc.
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Jul 30 @ 11:27 AM ET
How long until October?
- Pixote Andolini



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 11:28 AM ET
there's a word for those of us Flyer fans who want to cry about this latest crosby thing: Hypocrites

as defined on Dictionary.com
Hypocrite
1.a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

We loved it when Clarkie did it. We loved it when Lindros demolished people and we love it when any number of the guys on the team do this stuff now. Giroux really needs to be ready for it next time around.

- JoeRussomanno



Our defenseman gives a cross check to the ribs in front of the net, and we love it. But have something happen to one of our best players, and the offending player is a cheap shot artist. Definitely a double standard. But as Nick says, that's Hockey!
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:35 AM ET
Our defenseman gives a cross check to the ribs in front of the net, and we love it. But have something happen to one of our best players, and the offending player is a cheap shot artist. Definitely a double standard. But as Nick says, that's Hockey!
- MJL


It's just annoying how people who would (and do) applaud a Flyer for doing this take a holier-than-thou stance when it's a rival team's player, especially Crosby. They act like the Flyers are all saints out there and do nothing wrong.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 11:38 AM ET
It's just annoying how people who would (and do) applaud a Flyer for doing this take a holier-than-thou stance when it's a rival team's player, especially Crosby. They act like the Flyers are all saints out there and do nothing wrong.
- NickTheKid87


Here's the bottom line. As long as Claude Giroux is a top player in the League, he is going to be targeted physically. Especially in the playoffs. It's simply part of the game.
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Jul 30 @ 11:42 AM ET
Here's the bottom line. As long as Claude Giroux is a top player in the League, he is going to be targeted physically. Especially in the playoffs. It's simply part of the game.
- MJL



Good Call!!
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 30 @ 11:43 AM ET
Same as Clarke was.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 30 @ 11:45 AM ET
It's just annoying how people who would (and do) applaud a Flyer for doing this take a holier-than-thou stance when it's a rival team's player, especially Crosby. They act like the Flyers are all saints out there and do nothing wrong.
- NickTheKid87

Well, on the other hand there's some part of the Penguins fanbase that finds this to be an incendiary interview, some even calling it whining. So, the role reversal isn't limited to the east end of the state.

That said, I take no issue with either the incident nor Claude talking about it. It's hockey, just as it ever was.
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