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Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 29 @ 6:33 PM ET
that's decent. Would they move Holland.
- Bieksa#3


I think they would in order to bring in a young center like O'Reilly that not only gives the team more of a future but will take a lot of pressure off of Getzlaf & Koivu. It could make the difference in keeping Getzlaf & Perry going forward as well.

Holland isn't their best prospect but who knows really...
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 29 @ 6:42 PM ET
I think they would in order to bring in a young center like O'Reilly that not only gives the team more of a future but will take a lot of pressure off of Getzlaf & Koivu. It could make the difference in keeping Getzlaf & Perry going forward as well.

Holland isn't their best prospect but who knows really...

- Steve-B

Would you move O'Reilly for Edler(perhaps van gets a 3rd rounder)
Or Duchense for Edler and a 1st

As for phx, I don't see any interest what so ever in Stastny. They are without a doubt gonna want young guys. As I say Duchense or Landeskog. Handle in an offense system would explode.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 29 @ 6:45 PM ET
Some guy posted this in the forums, don't know if anyone saw this but:

To COL: Bobby Ryan

To BUF: Paul Statsny

To ANA: BUF 1st rounder, COL 2nd rounder, Nathan Gerbe, Tyson Barrie(blue chip avs d prospect)


For Colorado it's: Statsny, Barrie, and 2nd for Ryan
For Buffalo it's: Gerbe and a 1st for Statsny
For Anaheim its: all that for Ryan

Likely, probably not. Fair, I guess you could be the judge.
Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 29 @ 6:52 PM ET
Some guy posted this in the forums, don't know if anyone saw this but:

To COL: Bobby Ryan

To BUF: Paul Statsny

To ANA: BUF 1st rounder, COL 2nd rounder, Nathan Gerbe, Tyson Barrie(blue chip avs d prospect)


For Colorado it's: Statsny, Barrie, and 2nd for Ryan
For Buffalo it's: Gerbe and a 1st for Statsny
For Anaheim its: all that for Ryan

Likely, probably not. Fair, I guess you could be the judge.

- _Zippy_


I'm not sure Anaheim moves Ryan for anything short of a top 6 center. While yeah that's a large package of futures it wouldn't help them in keeping Getzlaf & Perry.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 29 @ 6:56 PM ET
I'm not sure Anaheim moves Ryan for anything short of a top 6 center. While yeah that's a large package of futures it wouldn't help them in keeping Getzlaf & Perry.
- Steve-B

Exactly. They are gonna want a young center.
O'Reilly+
Duchense
Tyler E., Stafford and 1st

In the event it was Duchense, ducks would have to do Ryan +
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 29 @ 6:57 PM ET
I'm not sure Anaheim moves Ryan for anything short of a top 6 center. While yeah that's a large package of futures it wouldn't help them in keeping Getzlaf & Perry.
- Steve-B


They could pressure Buffalo into adding another asset better than Gerbe. Maybe Luke Adam or, I know they are reluctant, but depending on how they feel about Grigorenko or Girgensons, Ennis. In that proposal, Buffalo is adding Ryan for only Gerbe and a first.

Say they got Ennis, Barrie, a 1st, and a 2nd for Ryan, that's a pretty good haul.
jonathonpeddle
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Newfounland, NF
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jul 29 @ 6:57 PM ET
Would you move O'Reilly for Edler(perhaps van gets a 3rd rounder)
Or Duchense for Edler and a 1st

As for phx, I don't see any interest what so ever in Stastny. They are without a doubt gonna want young guys. As I say Duchense or Landeskog. Handle in an offense system would explode.

- Bieksa#3



Avs wont deal anyone to the Canucks, they would have to be blown away with a deal!
Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 29 @ 6:59 PM ET
Would you move O'Reilly for Edler(perhaps van gets a 3rd rounder)
Or Duchense for Edler and a 1st

As for phx, I don't see any interest what so ever in Stastny. They are without a doubt gonna want young guys. As I say Duchense or Landeskog. Handle in an offense system would explode.

- Bieksa#3


Not to be callus but.. Hell no

Edler only has a year left on his contract, the only center I would even think about moving for him would be Stastny and there would have to be another swap of prospects like B. Gaunce & T. Barrie. Maybe even a conditional pick from Vancouver's side.

But I think losing Edler leaves to big of a hole for Vancouver for them to even think about moving him.

Deals for high end players with only a year left on their contract are very difficult. Stastny has two years left which at least allows whichever team getting him to move him to recover assets if he does not look like he is willing to extend in 2013.

With one year left you don't have that chance.

And besides the inter-division aspect of the trade. I'm not sure that stops trades as much as people think but it definitely hurts the chances when talking about high impact players.
Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 29 @ 7:09 PM ET
They could pressure Buffalo into adding another asset better than Gerbe. Maybe Luke Adam or, I know they are reluctant, but depending on how they feel about Grigorenko or Girgensons, Ennis. In that proposal, Buffalo is adding Ryan for only Gerbe and a first.

Say they got Ennis, Barrie, a 1st, and a 2nd for Ryan, that's a pretty good haul.

- _Zippy_


I realize that but they are not rebuilding unless Getzlaf & Perry leave. Trust me this is the same argument I've seen just about every Anaheim fan make here or on HFBoards.

I will say this.. Ennis may entice Anaheim to make the trade but then you really have to ask yourself. Would Buffalo really do that? Probably not..

(And Buffalo would be adding Stastny not Ryan according to the trade you posted.)
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 29 @ 7:22 PM ET
I realize that but they are not rebuilding unless Getzlaf & Perry leave. Trust me this is the same argument I've seen just about every Anaheim fan make here or on HFBoards.

I will say this.. Ennis may entice Anaheim to make the trade but then you really have to ask yourself. Would Buffalo really do that? Probably not..

(And Buffalo would be adding Stastny not Ryan according to the trade you posted.)

- Steve-B


Forgot about that, but nevertheless, Statsny would make Ennis somewhat expendable, unless he or Hogdson is moved to the third line.
Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 29 @ 7:50 PM ET
Forgot about that, but nevertheless, Statsny would make Ennis somewhat expendable, unless he or Hogdson is moved to the third line.
- _Zippy_


Who knows it may be plausible but I guess I am one of those crazy people who would rather have. :

McGinn - Stastny - Ryan

Landeskog - Duchene - Parenteau

than

McGinn - Duchene - Ryan

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Parenteau

I don't really think O'Reilly has point per game potential, maybe just because when your that good defensively it's pretty difficult to put up PPG numbers. Stastny has a kind of balance between the two that allows him to be a #1 center.

Id rather have two PPG centers as a 1A/1B than have a PPG center in Duchene and a 50-60 point center in O'Reilly. And I have no doubt that Stastny would put up those numbers again with Ryan & McGinn on his wings.

Then there is the known chemistry that Ryan & Stastny have as well.

There is something else to consider on Colorado's end, they would be hoping Ryan with consistent power-play time and first line minutes could put up 35+ maybe even 40G. Because going from 20-27 goal D. Jones for just a consistent 30 goal Ryan isn't really worth giving up O'Reilly.

Jones wouldn't sniff the upper end of the 20s in goals without Stastny. We would be preying to the hockey gods that he still gives us 20 a year because he almost didn't last year until he was moved back to Stastny's line. Jones basically owes about 75% of that 4M paycheck to Stastny. Jones just turns into something else when hes on Stastny's line.

So the trade is enticing and I would probably do it myself, but I can see why Colorado hasn't exactly went out and "Made it happen" yet.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 29 @ 8:16 PM ET
Forgot about that, but nevertheless, Statsny would make Ennis somewhat expendable, unless he or Hogdson is moved to the third line.
- _Zippy_
if Cody goes to the 3rd line his daddy will ask for him to be traded. His dad was furious he had to play behind Henri and Kesler. You can bet he'd flip if he was behind either of Stastny or Tyler E.
Oilnutz
Edmonton Oilers
Location: sylvan lake, AB
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 29 @ 8:16 PM ET
So here's a Poll....

Does anyone want Ales Hemsky????

Now that you've stopped laughing, that was a serious question. Are there any fans out that would like to see Hemsky end up on their Team.

I sick of fellow Oilers fan pumping his tires and want some prove that he is way over valued in the Copper and Blue.

Thanx for your input .
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jul 29 @ 8:25 PM ET
I'd love to make a deal for Chris Stewart and Evgeny Grachev.
Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 29 @ 8:32 PM ET
So here's a Poll....

Does anyone want Ales Hemsky????

Now that you've stopped laughing, that was a serious question. Are there any fans out that would like to see Hemsky end up on their Team.

I sick of fellow Oilers fan pumping his tires and want some prove that he is way over valued in the Copper and Blue.

Thanx for your input .

- Oilnutz


Not on the Avs unless he was playing with two guys like Stastny & McGinn (two-way center and a power forward.) And his contract really hurts his value as well with his injury history and size.

Honestly Phoenix would probably love him as a replacement for Whitney but I wouldn't expect much in return. Prospect + 2nd at this point

I don't think anyone would give up a 1st round pick for him until the deadline next season and even then he would have to be healthy and it would be a late first from a top team with cap space.

If he would of taken like a 3M/4M 1 or 2 year deal he would have the value EDM is looking for but he didn't.

The more I think about it.. The more I think Phoenix is probably a perfect fit. Of course after that statement cue the Cloutier : Hemsky, Gagner, 1st for Yandle proposal.
Dissent
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Flavor Country
Joined: 03.28.2009

Jul 29 @ 11:39 PM ET
The only redeeming aspect of Avalanche trade threads is counting how many times fans of other teams can misspell Duchene.

Dushene....Ducshene...Duchesne...Duchense...Dochane...
Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO
Joined: 12.17.2007

Jul 30 @ 12:00 AM ET
So here's a Poll....

Does anyone want Ales Hemsky????

Now that you've stopped laughing, that was a serious question. Are there any fans out that would like to see Hemsky end up on their Team.

I sick of fellow Oilers fan pumping his tires and want some prove that he is way over valued in the Copper and Blue.

Thanx for your input .

- Oilnutz


I actually was laughing before you said "stopped laughing." I laughed harder. Not because I'm a jerk, just because it was really well timed.
Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO
Joined: 12.17.2007

Jul 30 @ 12:01 AM ET
The only redeeming aspect of Avalanche trade threads is counting how many times fans of other teams can misspell Duchene.

Dushene....Ducshene...Duchesne...Duchense...Dochane...

- Dissent


Yes it's a little irksom but onece you've seen Dufresne on Twitter, you stop judging people.
jjr_1988
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 08.18.2011

Jul 30 @ 1:11 AM ET
Center. Depth. Wins. Cups.

Why do you think Statsny is still an Av? O'reilly's emergence and Duchenes already established ability only makes them want to keep Statsny more. The longer you can keep the 3 of them together, the better.

You've begun surrounding them with better wingers. You guys need an upgrade on D, but you have a lot of youngsters who are waiting to prove just how good they are. Hopefully one of them emerges and displays some sort of dominance, or at least the ability to jump right into top-4 minutes sooner rather than later.

- mochoson

perfect.
todstiles
Joined: 06.25.2007

Jul 30 @ 1:20 AM ET
Please stop all the talk about Bobby Ryan being traded. You are only showing your ignorance. He's not going anywhere.
jbrylinsabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.21.2012

Jul 30 @ 2:08 AM ET
if the avs are gonna go for bobby ryan, i say they should offer up stastny and a 2nd, maybe even a first. the avalanche need wingers, and ryan is a goal scoring winger. imagine a line of landeskog/duchene/ryan. the ducks would get their second line center, and the avs get a all star winger
Van~Damage
Nashville Predators
Location: Breaking bricks at the Kumite
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 30 @ 5:28 AM ET
Please stop all the talk about Bobby Ryan being traded. You are only showing your ignorance. He's not going anywhere.
- todstiles





Its a hypothetical blog. Get over yourself, Nancy...

Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 30 @ 6:13 AM ET

Its a hypothetical blog. Get over yourself, Nancy...

- Van~Damage


Ive told you before that your nick name and avatar rock haven't I? lol


Honestly if the Avs were going to go for Ryan they probably would have done it by now. Or they will later in the season when the picture is more clear if hes still there. It's going to be a boring month and a half and probably only a little less boring when camps start. Gotta do something.. lol
Van~Damage
Nashville Predators
Location: Breaking bricks at the Kumite
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 30 @ 10:30 AM ET
Ive told you before that your nick name and avatar rock haven't I? lol


Honestly if the Avs were going to go for Ryan they probably would have done it by now. Or they will later in the season when the picture is more clear if hes still there. It's going to be a boring month and a half and probably only a little less boring when camps start. Gotta do something.. lol

- Steve-B





Yeah i guess....honestly I think Anaheim has been on the verge of blowing it up the past couple years. I think the only reason they havent is because of Teemu. Their roster has always kinda shocked me as to how they have struggled with so much talent offensively. Regardless, I think there will be a few players that are available towards the trade deadline...Ryan included if the price is right.
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