SABRES 89
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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You want to keep the Future of your franchise happy till he gets a little older . He is still just a kid . I would be shocked if Ennis goes anywhere for this very reason . Also not very deep in NHL centers right now . In a year or 2 maybe. - Maximum Signal
The future of the franchise is getting paid and the owner, gm and coach call the shots, what the hell has Myers and Ennis done? Your not talking Crosby or Malkin here your talking 2 average players. |
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evatnorth
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Location: B-lo, NY Joined: 07.07.2012
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Also the Two Center we draft can easily replace Ennis. |
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Maximum Signal
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 07.11.2008
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Did you go to Development camp? I did . The two G's looked good . But they did not look NHL ready yet . Even Patrick Roy says his guy needs to work on his stamina still too survive in the NHL . These kids need seasoning still . Bring up too soon and you can ruin them ! We ain't going to win a Stanley cup this year . Much rather see them get some seasoning first and grow a little more.
Also the Two Center we draft can easily replace Ennis. - evatnorth |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Also the Two Center we draft can easily replace Ennis. - evatnorth
When a player like Bobby Ryan is on the block, Ennis should not be untouchable. |
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joevthree
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 02.27.2011
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Ennis is not going anywhere. Tyler Myers and Tyler Ennis are really tight . This is from a reliable source that works with the Sabres . They will keep Ennis around to keep Myers happy. That he is turning into a decent player is an added bonus. - Maximum Signal
I doubt very much the Sabres care who's tight with who. If it improves the team they'll do it. They have millions of reasons to get over it. #$$$ |
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EricNearBuffalo
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Location: Frig off, Ricky!, NY Joined: 09.04.2011
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When a player like Bobby Ryan is on the block, Ennis should not be untouchable. - SABRES 89
EDIT: people can't collectively b'itch about Darcy being in love with his players to the point of stifling forward progress of the team and say there's no way a player like Tyler Ennis can be included in a trade which brings in a very good player, opens roster spots and cap space. i mean really, it's Tyler Ennis, not Pat Lafontaine. just my two cents. take it or leave it, doesn't matter much to this Sabres fan. |
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Maximum Signal
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 07.11.2008
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Oh but Terry Pegula does care . He has been the one promoting the whole family thing . Not saying it won't happen . But I would bet against it right now . I for one would like to see Ennis for a whole season back at his natural position. What we saw at the end of last year made me want more. Besides I do not believe we have the center depth right now to do it . In another year probably.
I doubt very much the Sabres care who's tight with who. If it improves the team they'll do it. They have millions of reasons to get over it. #$$$ - joevthree
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joevthree
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 02.27.2011
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Oh but Terry Pegula does care . He has been the one promoting the whole family thing . Not saying it won't happen . But I would bet against it right now . I for one would like to see Ennis for a whole season back at his natural position. What we saw at the end of last year made me want more. Besides I do not believe we have the center depth right now to do it . In another year probably. - Maximum Signal
Agree here. However, not moving a player to keep another player happy is never gonna happen. |
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Skeezix459
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Silver Creek, NY Joined: 07.03.2008
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I still say Ennis is somewhat involved... - evatnorth
Well he's not signed yet!!! |
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joevthree
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 02.27.2011
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Well he's not signed yet!!! - Skeezix459
Thats why this whole thing is so weird. I wish fr(ank)in doan would sign already so the fr(ank)in dominoes will fall |
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EricNearBuffalo
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Location: Frig off, Ricky!, NY Joined: 09.04.2011
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Agree here. However, not moving a player to keep another player happy is never gonna happen. - joevthree
keeping a player here for reasons like keeping other players happy is the kinda sh'it that 70% of the posters in Garth/Kevin blogs "harumph!" about.
if Ennis is part of the 'chum' that can help the Sabres get a shark like Bobby Ryan landed, thanks for your time Enzo! |
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Has a trade ever been announced on a sunday or late saturday night?
Probably not... Itll ne atleast Monday before we hear anything..
Bobby ryan is stafford but tougher, better defense, uses his body, more consistent, and rock solid with only missing 1 career game..
You add sekera an extra d man who doesnt play well in long streaks... And adam who will never see buffalo again due to ruffs dog house..
Ill take that trade every day and twice on sundays.
The 1st rounder is what hurts the most.. Maybe we get a mid prospect or a 3rd rounder back atleast out of the deal. - JVince11
couldnt have said it better myself ...... |
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joevthree
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 02.27.2011
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keeping a player here for reasons like keeping other players happy is the kinda sh'it that 70% of the posters in Garth/Kevin blogs "harumph!" about.
if Ennis is part of the 'chum' that can help the Sabres get a shark like Bobby Ryan landed, thanks for your time Enzo! - EricNearBuffalo
Exactly. I actually think it's absurd, but I was trying to say it more politely. |
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joevthree
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 02.27.2011
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couldnt have said it better myself ...... - buffalofan1027
I agree, but accept it on the notion it would be a late first rounder (hypothetically) |
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EricNearBuffalo
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Location: Frig off, Ricky!, NY Joined: 09.04.2011
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Exactly. I actually think it's absurd, but I was trying to say it more politely. - joevthree
psh,why bother lol |
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BuffSabs88
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 07.03.2012
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When a player like Bobby Ryan is on the block, Ennis should not be untouchable. - SABRES 89
Still amazed that people say Ennis is not untouchable. How on earth can you think giving away our #1 center is something that is doable? For the past few years all we've heard about is how Buffalo has lacked that #1 center and center depth on the roster. If Ennis is gone who do we have centering our 2nd line? Leino?? People really want to put their team's offense into the hands of an overpaid winger who had one good year alongside far superior players? |
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and lets say Stafford / Ryan gets another 30 goals each......we can compare ryan vs Staff hits and say Sabres won that part of the trade. We got tougher and means with Ryan
Luke Adam- Ruff has him in the Sabres dog house. So he cooked / wont be really given a serious chance to play in the NHL
Sekera- Hes got a nice contract, puck moving D . If he pans out to be good or solid. Who cares! The Sabres have McNabb, Psysk and 6 other young D that can do his job and player better then him!
on behalf of the ducks: its also a win!
Stafford: He can take over for Ryan and score. Hes not terrible ...hes just not tough
Adam: he can be there 3rd line center and potential 2nd line center ( i dont think he ll do it. but realistically he could)
Sekera- Puck moving D. Currently they have 2 puck moving D. Sekera would make it a 3rd for a good price.
Realistically: The trade would be a win win for both teams. |
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Still amazed that people say Ennis is not untouchable. How on earth can you think giving away our #1 center is something that is doable? For the past few years all we've heard about is how Buffalo has lacked that #1 center and center depth on the roster. If Ennis is gone who do we have centering our 2nd line? Leino?? People really want to put their team's offense into the hands of an overpaid winger who had one good year alongside far superior players? - BuffSabs88
Ennis isnt the number 1 center ........ Bobby Ryan is flat out better then ennis could ever be |
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joevthree
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 02.27.2011
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and lets say Stafford / Ryan gets another 30 goals each......we can compare ryan vs Staff hits and say Sabres won that part of the trade. We got tougher and means with Ryan
Luke Adam- Ruff has him in the Sabres dog house. So he cooked / wont be really given a serious chance to play in the NHL
Sekera- Hes got a nice contract, puck moving D . If he pans out to be good or solid. Who cares! The Sabres have McNabb, Psysk and 6 other young D that can do his job and player better then him!
on behalf of the ducks: its also a win!
Stafford: He can take over for Ryan and score. Hes not terrible ...hes just not tough
Adam: he can be there 3rd line center and potential 2nd line center ( i dont think he ll do it. but realistically he could)
Sekera- Puck moving D. Currently they have 2 puck moving D. Sekera would make it a 3rd for a good price.
Realistically: The trade would be a win win for both teams. - buffalofan1027
I just think Philly is under a lot of pressure to make a splash, and they're going to sweeten the pot more than Darcy is willing to. |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Still amazed that people say Ennis is not untouchable. How on earth can you think giving away our #1 center is something that is doable? For the past few years all we've heard about is how Buffalo has lacked that #1 center and center depth on the roster. If Ennis is gone who do we have centering our 2nd line? Leino?? People really want to put their team's offense into the hands of an overpaid winger who had one good year alongside far superior players? - BuffSabs88
Number 1 Ennis is not a center and not even close to a number 1 center. If he is our number 1 we are in trouble, nobody is untouchable when your trying to win a cup. |
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BuffSabs88
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 07.03.2012
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Ennis isnt the number 1 center ........ Bobby Ryan is flat out better then ennis could ever be - buffalofan1027
No, Ennis isn't technically our "number 1" center since he's not going to be playing the top line but he is our best center on the team. The only reason he isn't on the top line is because it would be stupid for Ruff to change up that Foligno-Ennis-Stafford line and Vanek and Pominville are definitely already going to be working the top line.
And obviously Ryan is better than Ennis right now but a team doesn't trade away their best player at their weakest position in order to add to a position that they're already strong in. We have enough wingers who can play and we're seriously lacking any centers. Trading away Ennis would be an extremely risky and dangerous move. |
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No, Ennis isn't technically our "number 1" center since he's not going to be playing the top line but he is our best center on the team. The only reason he isn't on the top line is because it would be stupid for Ruff to change up that Foligno-Ennis-Stafford line and Vanek and Pominville are definitely already going to be working the top line.
And obviously Ryan is better than Ennis right now but a team doesn't trade away their best player at their weakest position in order to add to a position that they're already strong in. We have enough wingers who can play and we're seriously lacking any centers. Trading away Ennis would be an extremely risky and dangerous move. - BuffSabs88
top line is actually
Vanek- Hodgson - Poms
Your wrong ..... |
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BuffSabs88
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 07.03.2012
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Number 1 Ennis is not a center and not even close to a number 1 center. If he is our number 1 we are in trouble, nobody is untouchable when your trying to win a cup. - SABRES 89
You just proved my point. Ennis is our best center, which is why we are in trouble if we decide to trade him. If you don't think he is our #1 center than who are you going to say is better than him? You have no reason to believe we have a better center on this team than Ennis. |
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spasmatic13
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Location: olean, NY Joined: 06.24.2011
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Still amazed that people say Ennis is not untouchable. How on earth can you think giving away our #1 center is something that is doable? For the past few years all we've heard about is how Buffalo has lacked that #1 center and center depth on the roster. If Ennis is gone who do we have centering our 2nd line? Leino?? People really want to put their team's offense into the hands of an overpaid winger who had one good year alongside far superior players? - BuffSabs88
the question is do you think the team (as constucted right now) can be a cup contender? if the answer is no then ennis is not untouchable.
then you ask does a ennis for ryan trade make the team a contender right now. because of how it would leave us currently weak in the middle the answer is probably no.
so now the question is in a year or two is this team better having made the trade with ryan as a top 6 winger, or not makeing the trade and having ennis struggleing to beat out the likes of grigs hodge and girgs for time on ice at center.
if we're not contending right now than the descision has to be made based on which player fits better into our future since now is irrelivant. however if anyone really thinks we can contend right now, then fine, you dont trade ennis and leave a hole |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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You just proved my point. Ennis is our best center, which is why we are in trouble if we decide to trade him. If you don't think he is our #1 center than who are you going to say is better than him? You have no reason to believe we have a better center on this team than Ennis. - BuffSabs88
He's not our best center and we are in trouble if he is, he is the starting point in the Ryan talks. |
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