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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 27 @ 4:18 PM ET
Sure, as soon as you post the link to the progressive left's website where they officially object to how Dan Cathy lives his life, as you stated they do earlier.

Thanks.

- prock



No need, the Media has covered how the left wing progressives and the gay community have objected to Dan Cathy's interview.

They organized boycotts, publicly vilified him, insulted him and his religion, harassed some of his employees, vandalized a restaurant, a few public officials threatened to withhold business permits and one person when as far to attempt a mass shooting at one of the organizations that publicly supported Dan Cathy and his right to free speech.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Aug 27 @ 4:22 PM ET
No need, the Media has covered how the left wing progressives and the gay community have objected to Dan Cathy's interview.

They organized boycotts, publicly vilified him, insulted him and his religion, harassed some of his employees, vandalized a restaurant, a few public officials threatened to withhold business permits and one person when as far to attempt a mass shooting at one of the organizations that publicly supported Dan Cathy and his right to free speech.

- Doppleganger



Riiight. So, when the media reports things happening on one side, you insist on seeing it, but jump on side when it's the other. No proof required.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 27 @ 4:28 PM ET
Riiight. So, when the media reports things happening on one side, you insist on seeing it, but jump on side when it's the other. No proof required.
- prock





We've all seen the reaction from the Progressive left and the gay community, over the Dan Cathy interview.

If you have not, just scroll back through the pages of this thread and it's all there.


You've made claims, that you can't back up.

Either put up............or shut up.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Aug 27 @ 4:30 PM ET
We've all seen the reaction from the Progressive left and the gay community, over the Dan Cathy interview.

If you have not, just scroll back through the pages of this thread and it's all there.


You've made claims, that you can't back up.

Either put up............or shut up.

- Doppleganger



So, you're admitting to being 100% blatantly prejudiced. Great.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 27 @ 4:35 PM ET
So, you're admitting to being 100% blatantly prejudiced. Great.
- prock


Please explain, if you can, what you mean by that.

If you mean I'm 100% in favour of freedom of Speech, then yes.

But knowing how you spin stuff around and usually spit out gobbily gook..........you'll have to explain yourself here SVP.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Aug 27 @ 4:47 PM ET
Please explain, if you can, what you mean by that.

If you mean I'm 100% in favour of freedom of Speech, then yes.

But knowing how you spin stuff around and usually spit out gobbily gook..........you'll have to explain yourself here SVP.

- Doppleganger



You’re willing to 100% believe one group, based off media reports, yet, the other, you require that it be currently posted on their official website. News reports won’t do. Anyone could just as easily say the news reports about the vandalism were right wing propaganda, but you’re the only one here stupid enough to make statements like that. Further, it’s one person or a small group, not a group representative of the entire left.

You’re very clearly holding two groups to different standards, based on your own prejudiced beliefs of those groups. Just about every comment you make includes shots at the “progressive left”. It’s clear where you stand, who you side with, and you are completely unwilling to see anything wrong with that side. Hell, even with legitimate news reports of it, from sources you yourself have said you get your news from, you blindly refuse to even acknowledge them.

In fact, the very comments that you make in just about every post….. about how “the left wing progressives”, are clearly indicative of you grouping every single person into a broad group, and talking about they react, as if one collusive unit. In essence, if someone is left wing, you have already determined what their thoughts, they way they react, all of these things, are. You’ve pre-judged them. Prejudice. Follow now?
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 27 @ 4:59 PM ET
You’re willing to 100% believe one group, based off media reports, yet, the other, you require that it be currently posted on their official website. News reports won’t do. Anyone could just as easily say the news reports about the vandalism were right wing propaganda, but you’re the only one here stupid enough to make statements like that. Further, it’s one person or a small group, not a group representative of the entire left.

You’re very clearly holding two groups to different standards, based on your own prejudiced beliefs of those groups. Just about every comment you make includes shots at the “progressive left”. It’s clear where you stand, who you side with, and you are completely unwilling to see anything wrong with that side. Hell, even with legitimate news reports of it, from sources you yourself have said you get your news from, you blindly refuse to even acknowledge them.

In fact, the very comments that you make in just about every post….. about how “the left wing progressives”, are clearly indicative of you grouping every single person into a broad group, and talking about they react, as if one collusive unit. In essence, if someone is left wing, you have already determined what their thoughts, they way they react, all of these things, are. You’ve pre-judged them. Prejudice. Follow now?

- prock




Look I get where you left wing progressives are coming from.

You believe in the right to freedom of speech, as long as it conforms to left wing progressive Ideology.

Whereas I believe everyone has total freedom of speech, no matter who gets offended, or who disagrees with it.

Of course I don't endorse what is legally defined as "hate speech" and yelling "fire" in the theatre.............becasue that's against the law, and charges could and should be made in those cases.


You are clearly focused on the Gay marriage issue, while I've stuck to the much broader issue of Freedom of speech.

You can't argue against everyone's freedom of speech, so you are trying desperately to drag me onto one side of the gay marriage issue.

I won't go there, because I don't have a dag in that race. I'm not interested in participating in a gay marriage, and am not interested in living my life along the religious beliefs of Dan Cathy.

Spin away all you want, but clearly you don't support Dan Cathy's right to free speech, because it does conform to your beliefs, and that's where you lose the argument right there.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Aug 27 @ 5:07 PM ET
Look I get where you left wing progressives are coming from.

You believe in the right to freedom of speech, as long as it conforms to left wing progressive Ideology.

Whereas I believe everyone has total freedom of speech, no matter who gets offended, or who disagrees with it.

Of course I don't endorse what is legally defined as "hate speech" and yelling "fire" in the theatre.............becasue that's against the law, and charges could and should be made in those cases.


You are clearly focused on the Gay marriage issue, while I've stuck to the much broader issue of Freedom of speech.

You can't argue against everyone's freedom of speech, so you are trying desperately to drag me onto one side of the gay marriage issue.

I won't go there, because I don't have a dag in that race. I'm not interested in participating in a gay marriage, and am not interested in living my life along the religious beliefs of Dan Cathy.

Spin away all you want, but clearly you don't support Dan Cathy's right to free speech, because it does conform to your beliefs, and that's where you lose the argument right there.

- Doppleganger



Look I get where you right wing bigots are coming from, you're fine with freedom of speech until it involves responding to one of your own right wing bigots. Then, freedom of speech is considered a character assassination, and an attack on freedom of speech itself, and not allowed.

You can pretend you agree with free speech all you want, but the truth is, you agree with freedom of speech FOR THE RIGHT.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 27 @ 7:51 PM ET
Look I get where you right wing bigots are coming from, you're fine with freedom of speech until it involves responding to one of your own right wing bigots. Then, freedom of speech is considered a character assassination, and an attack on freedom of speech itself, and not allowed.

You can pretend you agree with free speech all you want, but the truth is, you agree with freedom of speech FOR THE RIGHT.

- prock



And please provide me with one example of what you're accusing me of.
Shutdown
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: a fat guy sitting on a toilet with no back and his head resting on his balls pic, NC
Joined: 04.06.2008

Aug 27 @ 7:56 PM ET
you're all a bunch of fags
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 27 @ 7:58 PM ET
you're all a bunch of fags
- Shutdown



I don't agree with what you posted.............but will defend your right to say it.
Le_Moderateur
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.29.2011

Aug 27 @ 8:16 PM ET
you're all a bunch of fags
- Shutdown


I want to marry you.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Aug 27 @ 8:26 PM ET
I don't agree with what you posted.............but will defend your right to say it.
- Doppleganger

I see, so you've never reported anybody on this site?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Aug 27 @ 8:32 PM ET
And please provide me with one example of what you're accusing me of.
- Doppleganger



From a few pages back.

I agree 100%. The progressive left and the gay community should not object to how Dan Cathy lives his life or follows his religious beliefs.
- Doppleganger


laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 27 @ 10:12 PM ET
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 28 @ 7:15 AM ET
From a few pages back.
- prock

Basically I'm saying live and let live.
So to you, that makes me a bigot?


pretty thin my friend.
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Aug 28 @ 9:20 AM ET

- laughs2907


When will you people understand?

They simply call themselves Christian even though the bend and twist the rules of christianity to suit their own needs, which int he end makes them their own religion, but instead categorize themselves under christianity, so they can group with the masses ......

Man do I hate religion..
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Aug 28 @ 10:31 AM ET
Basically I'm saying live and let live.
So to you, that makes me a bigot?


pretty thin my friend.

- Doppleganger



LOL. Pretty thin????

You’re saying there is a group of people that shouldn’t object to what someone has to say. HOLY CRAP, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU’VE BEEN GETTING YOUR PANTIES IN A BUNCH ABOUT THE ENTIRE TIME, with comments like “You believe in the right to freedom of speech, as long as it conforms to left wing progressive Ideology”. So, they don’t agree with him, but can’t object?

And the whole point of what you call “left wing progressives” (typically followed by an insulting statement, something else you accuse others of), is live and let live. The entire reason to their boycott/objection to what he says is, it’s none of his phucking business what they do. How can you possibly sit there, and say that there is nothing wrong with what he’s saying, when he’s stating who he believes should be entitled to marry (and conversely, who shouldn’t), when it has absolutely no bearing on his life, and then turn around and say that OTHER people should “live and let live”……

The hypocrisy of what you’re saying is outright phenomenal.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 28 @ 10:44 AM ET
LOL. Pretty thin????

You’re saying there is a group of people that shouldn’t object to what someone has to say. HOLY CRAP, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU’VE BEEN GETTING YOUR PANTIES IN A BUNCH ABOUT THE ENTIRE TIME, with comments like “You believe in the right to freedom of speech, as long as it conforms to left wing progressive Ideology”. So, they don’t agree with him, but can’t object?

And the whole point of what you call “left wing progressives” (typically followed by an insulting statement, something else you accuse others of), is live and let live. The entire reason to their boycott/objection to what he says is, it’s none of his phucking business what they do. How can you possibly sit there, and say that there is nothing wrong with what he’s saying, when he’s stating who he believes should be entitled to marry (and conversely, who shouldn’t), when it has absolutely no bearing on his life, and then turn around and say that OTHER people should “live and let live”……

The hypocrisy of what you’re saying is outright phenomenal.

- prock




Spin spin spin.

You called me a right wing Bigot, and I asked you to explain anything that I might have said that could support your insults towards me.

You can't, so you're in full spin mode now.

It's just too funny!!



BTW here's the WHOLE post, that you're using to label me a right wing bigot.

I agree 100%. The progressive left and the gay community should not object to how Dan Cathy lives his life or follows his religious beliefs.


He should be free to express his POV without his business being dragged into it, fear that his employees could be harassed, his stores vandalized, his supporters be targeted by would be mass murders.

And no Government at any level should even suggest that they might impede his ability to start up new restaurants and employ people.

Why should the progressive left and the gay community have any say over how Dan Cathy's life should be run, what religious beliefs he should not have, and which POVs of theirs he should embrace.

I think that is a mentality we need to eliminate in the world.

- Doppleganger


It was an "Edited" post mirroring another poster (Below) who thought it was good to have it one way, but not the other.

Based on the rights of the country, he is more than free to make his opinion known. I just dont think it was the best business decision for him to make, but that's just me.

As for my opinion on the subject, I a completely against people who object to the way others live their lives if it doesnt affect them. Why should you have any say over how someone else's life should be run, when they have no impact on yours? I think that is a mentality we need to eliminate in the world.

- mfreedman


Apparently this comparison went right over your head.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Aug 28 @ 10:55 AM ET
Spin spin spin.

You called me a right wing Bigot, and I asked you to explain anything that I might have said that could support your insults towards me.

You can't, so you're in full spin mode now.

It's just too funny!!



BTW here's the WHOLE post, that you're using to label me a right wing bigot.



It was an "Edited" post mirroring another poster (Below) who thought it was good to have it one way, but not the other.



Apparently this comparison went right over your head.

- Doppleganger



Actually, the post you responded to, asking me to give you an example of what I accuse you of, mentioned you supporting freedom of speech only when they agree with you.

What I quoted is a perfect example of that. “They shouldn’t object”?????? It doesn’t get much more clear than that. And it’s a direct quote, so I’m not sure how you call it spin.

You’re making yourself look like an idiot here.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 28 @ 10:56 AM ET
I can see why people backed Hitler now, some people shouldn't have freedom of speech.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 28 @ 10:58 AM ET
LOL. Pretty thin????



And the whole point of what you call “left wing progressives” (typically followed by an insulting statement, something else you accuse others of),.

- prock



Another false, unsubstantiated allegation.


Where have I done this??? Try and prove this one my friend.


BTW, when I accuse others of using "insults" I can prove it.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 28 @ 11:04 AM ET
I can see why people backed Hitler now, some people shouldn't have freedom of speech.
- Lahey


Are you familiar with the Constitution of the Weimar Republic???

More pointedly, the provisions of freedom of speech?

The Weimar Constitution guaranteed individual rights such as the freedom of speech and assembly to each citizen. But was Hitler a German Citizen when he rose to power?
dawgzhouse
Location: Ottawa
Joined: 06.30.2006

Aug 28 @ 11:34 AM ET
As long as you aren't hurting someone else, do as you wish.

The money wasted by each side is sad. All of the money used to combat each other's unwavering positions could otherwise be used for valuable 'Christian-like' or left-wing endeavours...dunno, like feeding kids.
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Aug 28 @ 12:10 PM ET

Apparently this comparison went right over your head.

- Doppleganger


If you were actually using that for me, then I have argued that point already, you see it differently than me. I don't feel like restating things over and over and over.
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