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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Aug 15 @ 10:02 AM ET
Depends on what you mean by "bash".

He is not calling anyone else insulting names, like you do, and you're entitled to do so, but it does little to help whatever cause you may be championing.

He is labelling any group "idiots" becasue they don't agree with his POV.

Why do left wing progressives always find it necessary to hurl insults and profanities whenever someone does not agree with their progressive agenda?



It's just like bruinsbeer said earlier in this thread (with a little editing)

Conservative:fact fact fact fact fact

Progressive leftists: emotional opinion, false statement, you're a liar and a idiot

Conservative: more fact fact fact fact

Progressive leftists: indoctrinated upbringing, baseless opinion, it's what they meant, not what they said

Conservative: fact with a reference

Progressive leftists: I've never heard of that or, look at the source, it was not covered that way on the CBC

- Doppleganger

and it's as idiotic now as it was then.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 15 @ 10:13 AM ET
and it's as idiotic now as it was then.
- Feeling Glucky?


of course a left wing progressive like you would see it that way.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Aug 15 @ 10:17 AM ET
of course a left wing progressive like you would see it that way.
- Doppleganger

Yes, the accurate way.


In the words of Colbert, "reality has a well-known left bias".

Edit: And in your world, where everything must be taken at face value, and reading into what someone actually means, rather than what they're just saying... his comments are extra poignant, since he attempted to be the GOP candidate for president.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 15 @ 10:19 AM ET
Yes, I knew it is unconstitutional, and said so a few pages ago. Most of these mayors are now backtracking, and last week there was a report suggesting that one of them may be charged but have heard nothing more on that.
- Doppleganger

source? In fact I've read the Boston Mayors letter and it says nothing about banning? Source that they even threatened to ban chick fill a?
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 15 @ 11:34 AM ET
Yes, the accurate way.


In the words of Colbert, "reality has a well-known left bias".

Edit: And in your world, where everything must be taken at face value, and reading into what someone actually means, rather than what they're just saying... his comments are extra poignant, since he attempted to be the GOP candidate for president.

- Feeling Glucky?



I kinda assumed you got the bulk of your "news" from Jon Stewart and Colbert.

Speaks volumes.

Do You actually believe his (SC) run for the GOP candidacy was genuine?

Or do you think it was more of a comedic performance, along the lines of Pat Paulsen ?



Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
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Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 15 @ 11:36 AM ET
source? In fact I've read the Boston Mayors letter and it says nothing about banning? Source that they even threatened to ban chick fill a?
- Morris

http://www.inquisitr.com/...-bigoted-chain-unwelcome/

“Chick-fil-A doesn’t belong in Boston. You can’t have a business in the city of Boston that discriminates against a population. We’re an open city, we’re a city that’s at the forefront of inclusion. If they need licenses in the city, it will be very difficult — unless they open up their policies. It doesn’t send the right message to the country,” Menino said. “We’re a leader when it comes to social justice and opportunities for all.”


Note the reference to "social justice", which we all know is code for Marxist Communism.

"Social justice" is the complete economic equality of all members of a society.

This to the layperson, sounds like a lofty objective

It really means is that wealth should be collected by the central government and redistributed to everyone evenly.

Social justice is the definition of communism.

It comes from the Marxist idea that money people make, and the property they own do not rightfully belong to them.

Karl Marx said that money is really a "collective product" that belongs to everyone.


Marx believed that capitalists exploited workers, and that the money they earned from their work and labour, was "stolen" from them.

Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 15 @ 11:42 AM ET
http://www.inquisitr.com/284961/chick-fil-a-banned-from-boston-for-anti-gay-stance-mayor-says-bigoted-chain-unwelcome/

“Chick-fil-A doesn’t belong in Boston. You can’t have a business in the city of Boston that discriminates against a population. We’re an open city, we’re a city that’s at the forefront of inclusion.”

“If they need licenses in the city, it will be very difficult — unless they open up their policies.”



“It doesn’t send the right message to the country,” Menino said. “We’re a leader when it comes to social justice and opportunities for all.”

- Doppleganger

That - broadly - speaks of his intention not to have Chick Fil A in the city, but the letter simply says he doesn't want them on the freedom trail, and he doesn't like their policies. In fact, the phrase "I urge you to back out of your plans to locate in Boston" plainly underscores an acknowledgement that he can really do nothing beyond discourage their behaviour; by behaviour I mean Cathy's statements, their contributions to anti-gay foundations, and their - ahem - ideologically pointed decision to try to open up a chain a stone's throw from where gay marriage was first legalized.

Good thing tweets aren't law. He hasn't banned anything.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 15 @ 11:44 AM ET
Again, not saying he won't do anything within his legal rights and powers to ensure that Chick Fil A does not set up shop on the Freedom trail, but there's no evidence that he's set in place illegal measures to prevent chick fil a from ever getting a permit.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 15 @ 11:47 AM ET
Again, not saying he won't do anything within his legal rights and powers to ensure that Chick Fil A does not set up shop on the Freedom trail, but there's no evidence that he's set in place illegal measures to prevent chick fil a from ever getting a permit.
- Morris

Note the reference to "social justice", which we all know is code for Marxist Communism.

"Social justice" is the complete economic equality of all members of a society.

This to the layperson, sounds like a lofty objective

It really means is that wealth should be collected by the central government and redistributed to everyone evenly.

Social justice is the definition of communism.

It comes from the Marxist idea that money people make, and the property they own do not rightfully belong to them.

Karl Marx said that money is really a "collective product" that belongs to everyone.


Marx believed that capitalists exploited workers, and that the money they earned from their work and labour, was "stolen" from them.

http://www.discoverthenet...ode%20for%20Communism.htm
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Aug 15 @ 11:50 AM ET
That - broadly - speaks of his intention not to have Chick Fil A in the city, but the letter simply says he doesn't want them on the freedom trail, and he doesn't like their policies. In fact, the phrase "I urge you to back out of your plans to locate in Boston" plainly underscores an acknowledgement that he can really do nothing beyond discourage their behaviour; by behaviour I mean Cathy's statements, their contributions to anti-gay foundations, and their - ahem - ideologically pointed decision to try to open up a chain a stone's throw from where gay marriage was first legalized.

Good thing tweets aren't law. He hasn't banned anything.

- Morris


He can't ban any business based on his opposition to their religious or political ideals.

The point is that the leftist progressives shoot from the mouth first, and then have to back away when they discover they overstepped their jurisdiction's limits, knowingly or just doing so for political gain in the electorate.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 15 @ 11:51 AM ET
Note the reference to "social justice", which we all know is code for Marxist Communism.

"Social justice" is the complete economic equality of all members of a society.

This to the layperson, sounds like a lofty objective

It really means is that wealth should be collected by the central government and redistributed to everyone evenly.

Social justice is the definition of communism.

It comes from the Marxist idea that money people make, and the property they own do not rightfully belong to them.

Karl Marx said that money is really a "collective product" that belongs to everyone.


Marx believed that capitalists exploited workers, and that the money they earned from their work and labour, was "stolen" from them.

http://www.discoverthenet...ode%20for%20Communism.htm

- Doppleganger

That might be a bit of a stretch. Not as much of a stretch as Buck Sexton of (Glenn Beck's) The Blaze claiming that a video of some moron debasing a chick fil a drive-through girl will hurt Obama's election chances, but a stretch.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
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Aug 15 @ 11:55 AM ET
That might be a bit of a stretch. Not as much of a stretch as Buck Sexton of (Glenn Beck's) The Blaze claiming that a video of some moron debasing a chick fil a drive-through girl will hurt Obama's election chances, but a stretch.
- Morris


So you support the Mayor/Premier/Prime Minister/Governor/President forcing their ideological views on the free market..............encouraging those they support and hindering those that don't???

The link is to a website by Barry Loberfeld. not Glenn Beck.

Speaking of Glenn Beck.................the mainstream media ( in the US) had no problem with him when he worked at CNN..................but they started to discredit him and call him all kinds of name when he moved to FOX for a few years.

They vilified him when he predicted the "Arab spring", mocked him while the "Arab spring" was unfolding because he warned us of the Muslim Brotherhood influence in it.

Now that he has been proven correct, where are the editorials apologizing for their treatment of him.

The Muslim Brotherhood now are in control of the largest Arab army in the middle east, and are slowly breaking the agreements forged in the Cam David accords.
http://www.thenewamerican...ist-tyranny-grow-in-egypt

Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 15 @ 11:58 AM ET
He can't ban any business based on his opposition to their religious or political ideals.
- Doppleganger

Well, hypothetically he could if their religious or political ideals were extreme (if they markedly denied service to atheists or anyone that voted for George W. Bush, for example).

But Chick Fil A aren't extremists. So of course I don't think he should be able to ban them, nor do I think he has, nor do I think he will.

However, businesse permits get denied all the time for their utter unsuitability to a certain location. There might be a lot of reasons why Boston doesn't want a fast food chicken restaurant in the historic freedom trail district. But you're right, it won't be about Cathy's comments.

Here's a question though: I know there is legal precedent denouncing discrimination based on a company (head's) opinions. Is there similar legal precedent defending a company's right to contribute to certain organizations? Latest I heard from Chicago was that their specific complaint was with Chick Fil A's contributions to anti-gay organizations, and that if they curbed such contributions, Chicago would be receptive to having them. Is there a supreme court decision that deals with this?
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 15 @ 12:00 PM ET
So you support the Mayor/Premier/Prime Minister/Governor/President forcing their ideological views on the free market..............encouraging those they support and hindering those that don't???
- Doppleganger

I don't think a mere reference to "social justice" puts the mayor of Boston in the territory of trying to establish a Marxist state is all.

Although other than mere words, how has the mayor of Boston particularly encouraged or hindered companies so far?
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 15 @ 12:08 PM ET

The link is to a website by Barry Loberfeld. not Glenn Beck.

Speaking of Glenn Beck.................the mainstream media ( in the US) had no problem with him when he worked at CNN..................but they started to discredit him and call him all kinds of name when he moved to FOX for a few years.

They vilified him when he predicted the "Arab spring", mocked him while the "Arab spring" was unfolding because he warned us of the Muslim Brotherhood influence in it.

Now that he has been proven correct, where are the editorials apologizing for their treatment of him.

The Muslim Brotherhood now are in control of the largest Arab army in the middle east, and are slowly breaking the agreements forged in the Cam David accords.
http://www.thenewamerican...ist-tyranny-grow-in-egypt

http://www.thenewamerican...ist-tyranny-grow-in-egypt

- Doppleganger

I wasn't talking about that link. I was talking about the video a page back with the Blaze's Buck Sexton. The Blaze is owned and operated by Glenn Beck. I made no further comment about him.
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Aug 15 @ 12:34 PM ET
So you support the Mayor/Premier/Prime Minister/Governor/President forcing their ideological views on the free market..............encouraging those they support and hindering those that don't???

- Doppleganger


I don't really think anything was forced here. He stated his opinion, just as Dan Cathy did.

And I'm pretty sure that most political figures openly state their views to the public. That is basically your job when you are in politics, and you hope that enough people agree with your view. That is how you get elected.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 08.30.2007

Aug 15 @ 12:48 PM ET
Again, not saying he won't do anything within his legal rights and powers to ensure that Chick Fil A does not set up shop on the Freedom trail, but there's no evidence that he's set in place illegal measures to prevent chick fil a from ever getting a permit.
- Morris



Interestingly enough, as Doppeldouche pointed out earlier that it's not within gay rights to marry (marriage isn't a right), I don't believe that Chick-fil-a has the right to locate anywhere they want. They have a licensing process, zoning approvals, etc. I'm sure there are a million reasons those licenses can be denied.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 10.08.2008

Aug 15 @ 12:51 PM ET
I kinda assumed you got the bulk of your "news" from Jon Stewart and Colbert.

Speaks volumes.

Do You actually believe his (SC) run for the GOP candidacy was genuine?

Or do you think it was more of a comedic performance, along the lines of Pat Paulsen ?

- Doppleganger

Oh, so we are allowed to look past face value when it suits you? Cool, good to know.

Oh, and where did I say those guys were a news source? I didn't? Tell me more about your facts.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Aug 15 @ 12:57 PM ET
So you support the Mayor/Premier/Prime Minister/Governor/President forcing their ideological views on the free market..............encouraging those they support and hindering those that don't???

The link is to a website by Barry Loberfeld. not Glenn Beck.

Speaking of Glenn Beck.................the mainstream media ( in the US) had no problem with him when he worked at CNN..................but they started to discredit him and call him all kinds of name when he moved to FOX for a few years.

They vilified him when he predicted the "Arab spring", mocked him while the "Arab spring" was unfolding because he warned us of the Muslim Brotherhood influence in it.

Now that he has been proven correct, where are the editorials apologizing for their treatment of him.

The Muslim Brotherhood now are in control of the largest Arab army in the middle east, and are slowly breaking the agreements forged in the Cam David accords.
http://www.thenewamerican...ist-tyranny-grow-in-egypt

- Doppleganger

That's because CNN was making him hold his crazy back... and that crazy was probably a big part of why he wound up leaving CNN and joining up with Fox.

Also, who was bashing Glenn Beck for saying that about the Arab Spring? Many people felt the same way.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
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Aug 15 @ 2:17 PM ET
I wasn't talking about that link. I was talking about the video a page back with the Blaze's Buck Sexton. The Blaze is owned and operated by Glenn Beck. I made no further comment about him.
- Morris



I'm well aware of who started/created The Blaze. Iused to also watch Beck when he was with CNN and FOX

So you are dismissing the Blaze and Beck?
Doppleganger
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Aug 15 @ 2:18 PM ET
I don't think a mere reference to "social justice" puts the mayor of Boston in the territory of trying to establish a Marxist state is all.

Although other than mere words, how has the mayor of Boston particularly encouraged or hindered companies so far?

- Morris



So is that a yes, or a no???
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
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Aug 15 @ 2:20 PM ET
I don't really think anything was forced here. He stated his opinion, just as Dan Cathy did.

And I'm pretty sure that most political figures openly state their views to the public. That is basically your job when you are in politics, and you hope that enough people agree with your view. That is how you get elected.

- mfreedman


So you don't have a problem with government promoting certain businesses inthe the free market, and scolding others that will not conform to "the states" POV, even to the point of threatening to impede their ability to operate in the the free market???
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
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Aug 15 @ 2:21 PM ET
Interestingly enough, as Doppeldouche pointed out earlier that it's not within gay rights to marry (marriage isn't a right), I don't believe that Chick-fil-a has the right to locate anywhere they want. They have a licensing process, zoning approvals, etc. I'm sure there are a million reasons those licenses can be denied.
- prock


Political and religious POVs are not a valid reasons.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 15 @ 2:24 PM ET
I'm well aware of who started/created The Blaze. Iused to also watch Beck when he was with CNN and FOX

So you are dismissing the Blaze and Beck?

- Doppleganger

No, I'm dismissing neither. Why would you assume I was dismissing him?
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
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Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 15 @ 2:25 PM ET
So is that a yes, or a no???
- Doppleganger

You said the mere mention of the term "social justice" put you in marxist territory. I said that was laughable. What's so hard to understand?
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