One of these days the sun will come out...

That's ridiculous money for this guy. Just frickin' ridiculous. You guys can praise Holmgren all you want to but the fact of the matter is the Philadelphia front office is a train wreck. Their payroll situation is going to be a mess for years to come and they aren't going to have much to show for it. How's that Bryzgalov contract working out for them?
- todstiles

Please dont be a Leafs fan..i like Holmgren..hes turned over whole roster, makes ballsy ass moves and doesnt care about cap implications as long as hes contending...now you got a team full of young good players like Giroux, Schenns, Couturier, Voracek, Read..plus hes clearly trying to add with that offer sheet to weber.. Im not a flyers fan even a bit, but you cant hate on the job hes done

EDIT: As far as the contract, seems about right..youre buyin out what a year or 2 of UFA...that costs money.. Seems like alot but its not about a number its about value to your team, and Holmgren believes thats how much value he brings.. Grabovski signed for what 5.5..

Yeah! Flyerbuzz is alive and well! Yet another magnificent signing by Homer.
- TJ

And yet here you are basking in it.

Decent signing

I've been here, as always. Floating around a lot from blog to blog.

You behaving? (stupid question)
- Juice

I'm still here aren't I?

I'm still here aren't I?
- As_I_See_It

But for how long?

The user of which we shall not speak will get you eventually....it's inevitable...like sex with Kobe Bryant, you can kick and scream all you want but eventually; it's gonna happen.

(credit Family Guy)

Please dont be a Leafs fan..i like Holmgren..hes turned over whole roster, makes ballsy ass moves and doesnt care about cap implications as long as hes contending...now you got a team full of young good players like Giroux, Schenns, Couturier, Voracek, Read..plus hes clearly trying to add with that offer sheet to weber.. Im not a flyers fan even a bit, but you cant hate on the job hes done

EDIT: As far as the contract, seems about right..youre buyin out what a year or 2 of UFA...that costs money.. Seems like alot but its not about a number its about value to your team, and Holmgren believes thats how much value he brings.. Grabovski signed for what 5.5..
- Leafsrulesens

true... plus the cap goes up every year, so in 2 yrs time this cap hit is peanuts.

Philly signed a player. Eklund's pants are spent... anyone got a spare?

Voracek would be a top 6'er easy on the leafs.

Only winger u got thats def better is kessel.
Lupul and jvr are debateable.
- hugefemale dog77

Lupul > voracek

Lupul was a ppg guy last year, granted he probably won't do that again but anywhere from 60-75 is realistic for him. Can't see voracek doing that this year maybe in a few years tho

Lupul > voracek

Lupul was a ppg guy last year, granted he probably won't do that again but anywhere from 60-75 is realistic for him. Can't see voracek doing that this year maybe in a few years tho
- MLeafs81

Dude had 50 pts last year...Why is 60+ out of the question?

1992–93 season
1. Eric Lindros (Philadelphia Flyers) $3.5 million
2. Wayne Gretzky (Los Angeles Kings) $3 million
3. Mario Lemieux (Pittsburgh Penguins) $2.408 million
4. Mark Messier (New York Rangers) $2.385 million
5. Pat LaFontaine (Buffalo Sabres) $1.775 million
2002–03 season
1. Jaromir Jagr (Washington Capitals) $11.483333 million
2. Keith Tkachuk (St. Louis Blues) $11 million
3. Nicklas Lidstrom (Detroit Red Wings) $10.5 million
4. Pavel Bure (New York Rangers) $10 million
Paul Kariya (Mighty Ducks of Anaheim) $10 million
2012–13 season
The temporary team salary cap is $70.2 million. No player can earn more than $14.04 million.
1. Shea Weber (Nashville Predators) $14 million
2. Tyler Myers (Buffalo Sabres) $12 million
Zach Parise (Minnesota Wild) $12 million
Brad Richards (New York Rangers) $12 million
Ryan Suter (Minnesota Wild) $12 million

Tell me what Richards, Suter, Parise, Myers and Weber has done to earn top dollars in NHL like Lindros, Gretzky, Lemieux, Messier, LaFontaine, Kariya, Bure, Lidstrom, Jagr and Tkatchuk...

I'm sick of the stupid Flyers overpaying for average hockey players. Voracek is probably at best a 3 million a season player... and even that is pushing it. Holmgren is raising the bar for every team in the league. 17 goals does not equal a 4.25 million dollar hockey player.

1992–93 season
Tell me what Richards, Suter, Parise, Myers and Weber has done to earn top dollars in NHL like Lindros, Gretzky, Lemieux, Messier, LaFontaine, Kariya, Bure, Lidstrom, Jagr and Tkatchuk...
- NOAH_U

Right place, right time...

17 goals does not equal a 4.25 million dollar hockey player.

- Tunnel

18, dammit...

1992–93 season
1. Eric Lindros (Philadelphia Flyers) $3.5 million
2. Wayne Gretzky (Los Angeles Kings) $3 million
3. Mario Lemieux (Pittsburgh Penguins) $2.408 million
4. Mark Messier (New York Rangers) $2.385 million
5. Pat LaFontaine (Buffalo Sabres) $1.775 million
2002–03 season
1. Jaromir Jagr (Washington Capitals) $11.483333 million
2. Keith Tkachuk (St. Louis Blues) $11 million
3. Nicklas Lidstrom (Detroit Red Wings) $10.5 million
4. Pavel Bure (New York Rangers) $10 million
Paul Kariya (Mighty Ducks of Anaheim) $10 million
2012–13 season
The temporary team salary cap is $70.2 million. No player can earn more than $14.04 million.
1. Shea Weber (Nashville Predators) $14 million
2. Tyler Myers (Buffalo Sabres) $12 million
Zach Parise (Minnesota Wild) $12 million
Brad Richards (New York Rangers) $12 million
Ryan Suter (Minnesota Wild) $12 million

Tell me what Richards, Suter, Parise, Myers and Weber has done to earn top dollars in NHL like Lindros, Gretzky, Lemieux, Messier, LaFontaine, Kariya, Bure, Lidstrom, Jagr and Tkatchuk...
- NOAH_U

Well Meyers and Sutter have no business earning that kind of money , Parise and Weber might have a case.

Dude had 50 pts last year...Why is 60+ out of the question?
- Flyfreaky

Don't get me wrong I think he can just making a prediction based on the fact he's had close to 50 points the last three years n almost 40 his rookie year. Just seem to me to be a consistent 50 point guy.

Right place, right time...
- Flyfreaky

Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin, Stamkos, Perry, Sedins, Giroux, Datsyuk are not even in top 5. Even Kovalchuk deserve more to be in top 5 than the real top 5.

Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin, Stamkos, Perry, Sedins, Giroux, Datsyuk are not even in top 5. Even Kovalchuk deserve more to be in top 5 than the real top 5.
- NOAH_U

Wrong place, wrong time...

Don't get me wrong I think he can just making a prediction based on the fact he's had close to 50 points the last three years n almost 40 his rookie year. Just seem to me to be a consistent 50 point guy.
- MLeafs81

Well, he's growing up and moving up to the first line...Can you say 100pts?

Well Meyers and Sutter have no business earning that kind of money , Parise and Weber might have a case.
- Alexzanki

Only Richards have a case with NHL playoff MVP and the Cup.

Well, he's growing up and moving up to the first line...Can you say 100pts?
- Flyfreaky

How about we just settle for sixty points next year then?

But for how long?

The user of which we shall not speak will get you eventually....it's inevitable...like sex with Kobe Bryant, you can kick and scream all you want but eventually; it's gonna happen.

(credit Family Guy)
- Juice

This is true. Sadly, I've always been a marked man

How about we just settle for sixty points next year then?
- MLeafs81

Giroux's gonna make his deal look like a steal...

Giroux's gonna make his deal look like a steal...
- Flyfreaky

Giroux makes anyone he plays with deal look like a steal i,e hartnall

Wrong place, wrong time...
- Flyfreaky

Can a player ask for 20% of the salary cap for 5 years in his contract?