No.

Can't believe how many times we have been through this.

I told everyone that Parise and Suter would not sign here due to non-monetary reasons. I said about 50 times that Nashville held all the power and would match unless given a trade they liked.

Now I am telling you that Ryan will be a Flyer. Not even just now, but for months.

We call throw out all the ridiculous Bog proposals and I like that guy proposals, and we can draw up all the funky lines we want. Ryan will be a Flyer. That is a fact. (point of all this is that Read and Rusty will not be our third line).

Cheers!
- Daman

who are we giving up for Ryan?

No.

Can't believe how many times we have been through this.

I told everyone that Parise and Suter would not sign here due to non-monetary reasons. I said about 50 times that Nashville held all the power and would match unless given a trade they liked.

Now I am telling you that Ryan will be a Flyer. Not even just now, but for months.

We call throw out all the ridiculous Bog proposals and I like that guy proposals, and we can draw up all the funky lines we want. Ryan will be a Flyer. That is a fact. (point of all this is that Read and Rusty will not be our third line).

Cheers!
- Daman

iow, book it, take it to the bank...yea I get it...see ya later, gotta call my bookie...

I think it's possible if the Stars are out of it that they bring Jagr back at the trade deadline......likely? no probably not, but he doesnt have a NMC or anything....

Yes. we could use another scorer, would be nice to get doan, but I think with the voracek raise, we're out of the running.
- flyersfan51

If we had gone and got Doan we wouldnt be able to afford Voracek. Either way you are short money for a new forward.

I personally dont think we need another scorer. We have 8 guys who have the potential to score 20 goals. Thats almost unheard of.

who are we giving up for Ryan?
- flyersfan51

Check last night's blog and while you're at it, post the copy and paste Sheena.

Yup. Winnipeg would demand Schenn or Couts anyways so it's moot. Ditto for Yandle.
- LordStanley88

Maybe Homer waits and offer sheets Bogo

Maybe Homer waits and offer sheets Bogo
- sulshawn

here is the biggest problem with an offer sheet... you gotta over pay to force a team to not match it... wont happen.

Maybe Homer waits and offer sheets Bogo
- sulshawn

No.

Can't believe how many times we have been through this.

I told everyone that Parise and Suter would not sign here due to non-monetary reasons. I said about 50 times that Nashville held all the power and would match unless given a trade they liked.

Now I am telling you that Ryan will be a Flyer. Not even just now, but for months.

We call throw out all the ridiculous Bog proposals and I like that guy proposals, and we can draw up all the funky lines we want. Ryan will be a Flyer. That is a fact. (point of all this is that Read and Rusty will not be our third line).

Cheers!
- Daman

Bookmarks this post.

I'm just giving them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe there's dysmathia. (And yes, I made it up...there probably IS a word for it though.)
- bodiva88

Dyscalculia.

Byuf is essentially a PP specialist. No way.

He is ATROCIOUS positionally.

Winnpeg already relies on Bogosian in ALL situations. He's their top dog.
- LordStanley88

update-
BUF 24:06 per

Bogo 23:16 per

guess BUF played a little bigger role

Carle and Jagr were both offered more cheddar to play elsewhere by a long shot.

Weber signed with the Flyers.

Nothing says anywhere that Flyers were close to a deal for Nash but "kicked the tires" which Homer always says he's doing. And considering it was a trade no one knows whether Nash was willing or not.

And unless we can move the Flyers to Minnesota so Suter can play at home and was willing to sign BOTH of him and Parise? (And although there were Flyers offers out to both of them, I think most of us figured if one said yes, the other offer would be pulled.)

Well, there just seems to be some lack of knowledge/logic there. But it's Garth.
- bodiva88

I don't agree with everything Garth wrote. His main point was the Flyers have written 3 100+ million dollar checks and have come up empty each time.

I don't agree with everything Garth wrote. His main point was the Flyers have written 3 100+ million dollar checks and have come up empty each time.
- PLindbergh31

No, his main point was that players don't want to play in Philadelphia.

Maybe Homer waits and offer sheets Bogo
- sulshawn

A lot more money behind Winnipeg ownership (Thompson) than the Nashville group.

No, his main point was that players don't want to play in Philadelphia.
- MBFlyerfan

I guess he left out our signings of Leighton, Fed, and Gervais.

Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Moving Forward, The Bogo vs J-Bo Model
- bmeltzer

great blog

No, his main point was that players don't want to play in Philadelphia.
- MBFlyerfan

Well I disagree with his premise on that front, I find it almost unprecedented to extend three such contract offers like the Flyers did, and go 0-3. I don't recall it happening before.

If we had gone and got Doan we wouldnt be able to afford Voracek. Either way you are short money for a new forward.

I personally dont think we need another scorer. We have 8 guys who have the potential to score 20 goals. Thats almost unheard of.
- jak521

Briere, Simmonds, Giroux, Schenn, Voracek, Read, Hartnell, Couturier?

I am perfectly fine heading into the season with this as our roster. Very excited about so many players on this team. Anything from now until the regular season is just a bonus.

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Wayne Simmonds($1.750m)/Danny Briere ($6.500m)/Brayden Schenn($3.110m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.750m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m)

DEFENSEMEN
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Bruno Gervais ($0.825m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m)
Chris Pronger ($4.921m)

GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
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SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,643,373; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,556,627

Well I disagree with his premise on that front, I find it almost unprecedented to extend three such contract offers like the Flyers did, and go 0-3. I don't recall it happening before.
- PLindbergh31

The only reason the Flyers got the third one was because they offered the offer sheet. several other teams this year offered 2 huge contracts and got turned down by both this year. And if Shea Weber was an UFA, all those teams woulda offered to Shea as well and he woulda turned teams down.

It really isn't that big of a deal. Especially considering the first two were in UFA, both players decided to play together, and then Shea was through an offer sheet which Nashville matched.

Briere, Simmonds, Giroux, Schenn, Voracek, Read, Hartnell, Couturier?
- flyersfan51

Is there any in there that you would disagree with?

If we had gone and got Doan we wouldnt be able to afford Voracek. Either way you are short money for a new forward.

I personally dont think we need another scorer. We have 8 guys who have the potential to score 20 goals. Thats almost unheard of.
- jak521

How does a deal for Ryan work given the Voracek contract? I think Ryan's cap hit is $5.1M. I assume Voracek is not a piece going back, but don't know? Is there any speculation on this?

Well I disagree with his premise on that front, I find it almost unprecedented to extend three such contract offers like the Flyers did, and go 0-3. I don't recall it happening before.
- PLindbergh31

Suter had no interest at all and he still got paid a great amount of money to go where he wanted. Weber was an OS that was match. Parise was either Wild or NJ (which he said he wouldnt sign in division if he left).

How does a deal for Ryan work given the Voracek contract? I think Ryan's cap hit is $5.1M. I assume Voracek is not a piece going back, but don't know? Is there any speculation on this?
- spatso

Personally, I think it makes Voracek more attractive being locked up for the next 4 years at 22 years old.

Personally, I think it makes Voracek more attractive being locked up for the next 4 years at 22 years old.
- Flyers2821

The Flyers shouldnt turn around and deal Voracek now that would look bad imo.