Manayunk Mike (real) ‏@MikeManayunk

Report: Shane Doan turns down #Flyers offer. Upset Weber didn't end up in Philly.


Take it for what it is....

- MBFlyerfan

OMG GOTTA TRADE FOR RYAN NOW

Manayunk Mike (real) ‏@MikeManayunk

Report: Shane Doan turns down #Flyers offer. Upset Weber didn't end up in Philly.


Take it for what it is....

- MBFlyerfan

Thank you for the sourcing. We know exactly how much credence to give it.

Manayunk Mike (real) ‏@MikeManayunk

Report: Shane Doan turns down #Flyers offer. Upset Weber didn't end up in Philly.


Take it for what it is....

- MBFlyerfan

A calculated guess with no legitimate proof on Mike's part?

Coburn-Grossman
Schenn-Timonen
Meszaros-Gervais

Without any additional moves for d-men, we just need to hope Mez can return to his form from 2 years ago, Schenn takes positive strides forward and Timonen gets himself healthy.

I'm glad you realized I was shouting.
- bodiva88

I'm more scared by your avatar

Thank you for the sourcing. We know exactly how much credence to give it.
- bodiva88

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OMG GOTTA TRADE BRYZGALOV NOW
- OrangeBlack27

Fixed that for ya.

The only offer I saw that was rumored to be made by Philly did not include either guy.. Now if you believe that was the offer made by Philly, then they missed a golden opportunity.. No?
- fsanford

From what i read, Poile's starting point was both of those guys.

Missed an opportunity, maybe, but i'm on record of saying i'm happy they stood by their youth. It's the first time in a long time the Flyers are allowing their youth to grow. The last time this happened was the 80's IMO...great teams in that decade...
the Baby Bullies!!!

Wal-Mart wants their shopping cart back, btw.
- tangent_man

Too bad. They can afford it.

Coburn-Grossman
Schenn-Timonen
Meszaros-Gervais

Without any additional moves for d-men, we just need to hope Mez can return to his form from 2 years ago, Schenn takes positive strides forward and Timonen gets himself healthy.
- Flyers2821

Kimmo is a warrior. If they can just manage to keep his minutes down during the first half of the year I think he will be fine. Problem is you can't guarantee no one else goes down with an injury again like last year.

I don't think all three will go down again. Mezaros already came back from the surgery to play a game. If he was good enough to go in May what's he gonna be in september. I think Grossman is the one to worry about, really because Kimo will be fine if we don't grind him down all year. If it means finishing in 6th place then so be it but his minutes need to be reduced.
- JoeRussomanno

yeah....Grossman does worry me a bit. I think Mezarros is THE biggest x factor. if he can play at this 2011 form, he can play the top line with Coburn and lessen the load on Kimmo

Schenn isn't a real puck mover or offensive force, but he CAN play tons of minutes. i still think they will be looking for a Kimmo Timmonen replacement at the deadline tho. don't be surprised if it is Jay Bouwmeester.

if they miss out on Doan, i could also see them going for Arnott...but NOT for a 4th line role.

Kimmo is a warrior. If they can just manage to keep his minutes down during the first half of the year I think he will be fine. Problem is you can't guarantee no one else goes down with an injury again like last year.
- funmaster18

If so Mandog will be there.

Kimmo is a warrior. If they can just manage to keep his minutes down during the first half of the year I think he will be fine. Problem is you can't guarantee no one else goes down with an injury again like last year.
- funmaster18

Yea, good news is Holmgren has a great track record of acquiring d-men that make an impact via trade

Do you think Nashville would have declined if the Flyers gave Weber, say, a $30 million signing bonus and up the AAV to around $8.2 million?
- NickTheKid87

Let me quote you: "I love seeing the fans that don't know anything about business and/or hockey"
...and then you come up with your own howler.You are unaware (obviously) of the bonus limits PH had to deal with. He offered Weber pretty much the max.

From what i read, Poile's starting point was both of those guys.

Missed an opportunity, maybe, but i'm on record of saying i'm happy they stood by their youth. It's the first time in a long time the Flyers are allowing their youth to grow. The last time this happened was the 80's IMO...great teams in that decade...
the Baby Bullies!!!
- phi1671

you mean Keenan's Kids

Let me quote you: "I love seeing the fans that don't know anything about business and/or hockey"
...and then you come up with your own howler.You are unaware (obviously) of the bonus limits PH had to deal with. He offered Weber pretty much the max.
- Vagabond

I believe he was speaking hypothetically sir. in regards to the proposed proposal

you mean Keenan's Kids
- Pyzik

Pelle

yeah....Grossman does worry me a bit. I think Mezarros is THE biggest x factor. if he can play at this 2011 form, he can play the top line with Coburn and lessen the load on Kimmo

Schenn isn't a real puck mover or offensive force, but he CAN play tons of minutes. i still think they will be looking for a Kimmo Timmonen replacement at the deadline tho. don't be surprised if it is Jay Bouwmeester.

if they miss out on Doan, i could also see them going for Arnott...but NOT for a 4th line role.
- eshake

I would be SHOCKED. $6.8 million for a year and a half? NO THANKS. Maybe if his contract expired after 12-13 but I don't want him for all of 13-14.

Anaheim wants Couturier.......at this point, anyone think Homer might do it just to do it since he's gone Oh fer this offseason. I wouldn't do Mesz Couturier for Ryan but I would do Mesz, Couturier, Wellwood, MAB and 2 firsts for Ryan, Fowler and Sbisa but I doubt Anaheim would.

I'm sure both sides knew where each other stood in the process. I don't think more prodding would have helped.
- bradleyc4

I agree with Bill, that I am not sure this was a wise decision for Nashville. I am also surprised there is not more fall out. I understand, I think correctly, that the Preds have received something like more than $60 million in PUBLIC money (local and state) over a span of years, I think 7 or so. Some of this was in the form of a contract to operate the arena, which they do at a loss. They are also a revenue sharing (NHL Welfare) team, and they have NEVER turned a profit. I know they will say that they had to keep Weber, but if they were not fiscally successful with Weber and Suter in the past (and did not go past the second round in the playoffs), why is it necessary to keep him.

With cities and states struggling, and an outcry over spending public money even for road maintenance, these days, how can this type of deal be justified. The public has not seen a return on its money yet, and the team just dug itself even deeper. I don't get it.

Yea, good news is Holmgren has a great track record of acquiring d-men that make an impact via trade
- Flyers2821

trade is only an option if there are no sacred cows...otherwise we are looking at 2nd pairing types at best

Let me quote you: "I love seeing the fans that don't know anything about business and/or hockey"
...and then you come up with your own howler.You are unaware (obviously) of the bonus limits PH had to deal with. He offered Weber pretty much the max.
- Vagabond

Yes I made a mistake. Sue me.

Did the sky fall yet? Is the grass still green?

Time to march forward with what we have...

trade is only an option if there are no sacred cows...otherwise we are looking at 2nd pairing types at best
- isaiah520

what top pairing Defensemen are out there for the taking via trade? I do not want J-Bo, him in philly would not be good for either city or player.

Did the sky fall yet? Is the grass still green?

Time to march forward with what we have...
- stveshdy

very disappointing day and a half so far.