My priorities if I am Homer now are, in order:

1 - Re-sign Voracek long-term, 4 years at 4mil per is fine.

2 - Make a 3-year offer for Doan, 5-6mil per year and no more.

3 - Call Anaheim about Ryan, see what they're asking for these days.

4 - Call Phoenix about Yandle, quickly hang up when they ask for Schenn or Coots.

5 - Try to find a taker for Lilja as a 7th d-man, Gervais/Gus/MAB can fill the 6-7 spots just fine.

Maybe this news has been swept under the rug with all the Nash and Weber talk lately, but I heard Visnovsky has filed a grievance with the PA about being dealt to NYI. Says they were not on his 10-team list for his NTC clause. He's near the end of his career, but if that trade gets reversed, any thoughts on making the exact offer the Islanders made and picking him up? I'm assuming we're on his OK list. 1-year left at 5.6mil, could be a fill-in until next off-season, could still put up 30-50 points.

Isles gave up just a 2nd-round pick for him. Hmmmm.
- Rocktane

Adirondack.

Welcome to our message board and I'm very happy to see that you are the Preds financial expert.
In any case, we can all spin the books any way they want too. In the end, if investors don't get a return on their money they will pull out of the investment. They will soon find out in a couple of years if they get a return after paying out the bonus Weber will have coming to him. Good luck to you and the team you follow.
- phi1671

The last thing anyone should be doing is thinking they have an idea of what the Financial picutre is for Nashville. There's simply not enough information available. And Financial experts have all kinds of methods for handling these kinds of issues. And the real value in a franchise isn't the yearly income. It's the value of the franchise where the real money is.

"The already money-losing Predators' pride just got themselves into an almost impossible fiscal mess, with the situation a lock to get worse before it gets better. They made that choice by matching the offer sheet rather than seeking a reasonable trading solution with Philadelphia that would have kept Nashville at least solidly in the hunt for a playoff spot while adding draft pick assets and not tying their hands financially for at least six years to come."

I'm glad you are an expert with all things Nashville. Were are in trouble. Financially doomed. Out of the playoffs. Just call us Phoenix. Right. Now.
- TNGuy04

Ok, you're Phoenix. Right. Now.

I love the Leafs Nation for this kinda stuff. I remember when they got Joe Colborne and he was the next Joe Thornton & Kadri was the next Mario Lemieux. Also, back in 2010 they were making fun of Bruins fans after a disappointing start to the career of Tyler Seguin. Now, I don't think there is a team in the NHL that would take Kessel for Seguin straight up.
- NickTheKid87

wait till they get a load of JVR and I like JVR but in a new town he might have an adjustment period. Especially at a position he has no business playing at.

However they made, at absolute worst, a lateral step in terms of own-end defensive play with the acquisition of Luke Schenn and loss of Carle. The former Maple Leaf is also leaps and bounds more physical than Carle and is still young enough to live up to the hype ("the next Adam Foote") that accompanied him into the 2008 Draft. His long-term defensive upside is higher than Carle's, although his recent play in Toronto may not have been better.
- bmeltzer

Over the past three seasons Schenn has thrown a grand (and jaw dropping) total of 694 hits. Lets compare that to Carle.

Carle over the same span threw a total of 141 hits.. which is less than any single season total for Schenn. In his most physical season, Carle through 55 hits.. compared to 270 for Schenn. On average (per season) Schenn threw a total of 184 more hits than Carle. That blue line got a whollleee lot more physical.

Also, I truly am not worried about Bryz. I get every Leafs Habs Senators fan I run into say to me... Flyers are good, but it's the same old thing with them.. the goaltending. I say, do you even watch the Flyers play? They say.. um yeah. Bryz played well down the stretch.. and then got hurt, played well enough in a wide open series to beat out the Pens, and then played some solid hockey vs NJ essentially holding us in it. One stick handling misplay doesn't taint it all IMO. He'll be solid after an adjustment year. I have no doubt.
- Hextall271

Agreed. His March was awesome! I'm not expecting him to win the Vezina and play every month like March, but anywhere close to that and he will have a much better season overall. Lower that GAA, raise the save %, 5 shutout range, 40 wins. He won't have any pressure about being replaced by Leights, has a full year under his belt in the Philly pressure-cooker, and better team commitment to defense should all help his cause.

I would not be surprised if he answers a lot of questions this season, and we'll have less discussion about how "all this team needs is a goalie" still.

wait till they get a load of JVR and I like JVR but in a new town he might have an adjustment period. Especially at a position he has no business playing at.
- JoeRussomanno

JVR is the next Iginla!!!

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- aightwebang17

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The last thing anyone should be doing is thinking they have an idea of what the Financial picutre is for Nashville. There's simply not enough information available. And Financial experts have all kinds of methods for handling these kinds of issues. And the real value in a franchise isn't the yearly income. It's the value of the franchise where the real money is.
- MJL

I would say if they had the mountain of gold that Snider lives in that Weber would have been signed no later than Friday morning last week.

Adirondack.
- NickTheKid87

35+ contract.

Are you pulling my jimmy? A user comes on a Flyer message board and calls everyone Flyer Fairies?

Instead of questioning me, you should be in the huddle with the other mods and ban this type of outrageous behanvior. I was recently banned for saying let's all chill out.

Last night, someone told me to punch myself in the nutsack. Today, someone calls Flyers fans a bunch of fairies.

I'll let you decide your own opinion.

In a separate and unrelated matter, does anyone know where Tim Donaghy is working these days?
- Daman

Just not a level playing field out there.

Adirondack.
- NickTheKid87

35 and over contract. won't help

I really don't want the Preds to suffer even tho I think they will. Been contemplating moving to NC/Tennesee amongst other places. However that's not exactly a hockey town now is it?
- JoeRussomanno

I've reached the point that if you want a team, support it...if not move.

I don't like the 'Yotes situation...it's a waste of time and bad business.

If you cannot sustain your team, then find a market that does.

"Final thoughts:Weber is a magnificent defenseman but he's still only one member of a team. Name something that every NHL Conference playoff finalist (let alone Stanley Cup finalist and Stanley Cup champion) has in common? Answer: They got there without a player named Shea Weber"

You miss the point Bill, the last 3 Stanley cup winners all had what many would consider to be a Franchise defensemen on their team.

Is there anybody on the Flyers roster that would come close to comparing to the likes of Duncan Keith, Zedeno Chara, or Drew Doughty?

Nobody really knows what was offered or what was asked for, but if (and its a big if), the hold up was not at least offering one of either Couturier or Schenn, then the Flyers seemed to have missed a golden opportunity..

The last thing anyone should be doing is thinking they have an idea of what the Financial picutre is for Nashville. There's simply not enough information available. And Financial experts have all kinds of methods for handling these kinds of issues. And the real value in a franchise isn't the yearly income. It's the value of the franchise where the real money is.
- MJL

yes that was my point...thanks

just like I have no doubt that either Snider or Comcast gets a share of the parking revenue and it's not added into the Flyer's bottom line. That's a pretty good amount of revenue. it is what it is...unless you have the book, i mean the right books, you really don't know the full picture.

so they aren't good enough to win the cup this year, so what? Wouldn't you agree that if you let this team grow a couple years they can be really good? Not just be really good but really good for a long time. Several players in their early 20's still. Even if they win the cup next june I'll have a stack of bills to pay. might be harder to do with all the festivities afterwards.
- JoeRussomanno

It appears the team doesn't view it this way, they have pursued high priced free agents Suter, and Parise, went hard after Weber etc... Snider desperately wants to win, and patience isn't exactly one of his virtues.

"Final thoughts:Weber is a magnificent defenseman but he's still only one member of a team. Name something that every NHL Conference playoff finalist (let alone Stanley Cup finalist and Stanley Cup champion) has in common? Answer: They got there without a player named Shea Weber"

You miss the point Bill, the last 3 Stanley cup winners all had what many would consider to be a Franchise defensemen on their team.

Is there anybody on the Flyers roster that would come close to comparing to the likes of Duncan Keith, Zedeno Chara, or Drew Doughty?

Nobody really knows what was offered or what was asked for, but if (and its a big if), the hold up was not at least offering one of either Couturier or Schenn, then the Flyers seemed to have missed a golden opportunity..
- fsanford

from some accounts the Preds wanted both not one or the other. moving along....

At $5.6 million for a year? Intriguing but his dropped off last year.
- NickTheKid87

re: Vishnovsky
The kid loves to drink....just sayin....No dry Island for this cat!!
Reggie Leach would have nothing on this kid....or Carter and Richards ....for those who wanted an all choir boy team...

If Doan leaves Phoenix, you have to figure they will do a semi-rebuild. Would that raise or lower the price for Yandle?

If we can get Ryan from Anaheim without trading Voracek, I say we do it. I don't want a knee-jerk reaction by Homer to get him since losing out on Weber, but I always thought he was our next target anyways.

Even if we stand pat, that's alright. We could wait it out and add an Enstrom or Visnovsky at the deadline, maybe even a higher quality d-man. I agree with Bill, no way Vancouver chances losing Edler, but man would he be great for us.

It appears the team doesn't view it this way, they have pursued high priced free agents Suter, and Parise, went hard after Weber etc... Snider desperately wants to win, and patience isn't exactly one of his virtues.
- PLindbergh31

because he's getting grumpy.... in his older years.

re: Vishnovsky
The kid loves to drink....just sayin....No dry Island for this cat!!
Reggie Leach would have nothing on this kid....or Carter and Richards ....for those who wanted an all choir boy team...
- landros 2

He's not exactly a 24-year old kid anymore

Im just happy that Holmgren did his best 3 separate times to make this team better. He took 3 big swings. They didn't work out, but you have to be happy being a Flyers fan knowing they took their best shot 3 times already this offseason. Can't wait to get this season going. Im excited to see what progress some of these young players make.

I think the Flyers best bet now would be to sign Doan, and trade for Ryan and Visnovsky if his trade is overturned. Say Mez and Read or Voracek and Bourdon plus a first for Ryan and Visnovsky... I would also like to pick up S.Mason for like a 2nd and 4th rounder.

Ryan-Giroux-Doan
Hartnell-Briere-Read/Voracek
Schenn-Couturier-Wellwood
Fedotenko-Talbot-Rinaldo/Sestito

Timonen-Schenn
Grossmann-Coburn
Visnovsky-Meszaros/Bourdon

Bryz
Mason

It appears the team doesn't view it this way, they have pursued high priced free agents Suter, and Parise, went hard after Weber etc... Snider desperately wants to win, and patience isn't exactly one of his virtues.
- PLindbergh31

Trying to get the best players available in the offseason to better your team is not admitting you aren't good enough. It's common sense.

Hjalmarsson or Leddy interest anyone? Haven't heard much about them in a few weeks, but last word going was they were looking at possibly moving one of them, even after losing out on Suter and Parise.