That is why I feel that the best option right now is for the Flyers to focus on getting Voracek and Bourdon signed, take their best shot at Doan (without going way overboard in a bidding war) and go into the season with all of their trading assets intact plus a bit of bankable free cap space (and Pronger's LTIR allowance as a last resort) at their disposal.

Exactly, Bill! Homer clearly likes this team or he would have offered more for Weber.
Sign Voracek and MAB and although i would perhaps be aggressive with Doan to get the depth at wing back. The youngsters are going to have to step up though. Who knows what the opportunities will be at the trade dead line.

I'm not convinced that this blue line will hold up, much less compete. There were times last year when they truly got pushed around by opposing forwards, most apparent in the NJ series. Without Pronger back there forwards do not fear enetering the zone, diddling with the puck or skating into the slot. Grossmann is okay as a defensive defenseman, and so is Coburn although I think he doesnt use his size as much. Timmonen IMHO is running low on tread and about finished.
- edmac812

i 2 am worried about our blueline, carle was our most healthy 1

timmo-37 bad back
gross-bad knees/multible concussions
mezz-bad peculiar back
bruno-ehhh
coburn-our only real hope=not 2 excited
schenn-healthy+young, good upside
lilja-ehh
mab-ehhh
gusty-still learning

Banner Day In The Bender Household!!!
- Jsaquella

Hey. Smoke up Johnny.

Sign the RFA's and go to war with this group. Add a piece at the deadline if you need it.

Its time to let these kids grow together.

As for the owner losing money, and it not being an issue, I know a few rich people. Not one of them likes losing any money.
- Jsaquella

oh obviously not but people made it out to seem like if they matched then the owner would literally be bankrupt and the franchise would fold and they'd have to move.

what i was trying to say is that the owner has enough money to cover the loss for a few years at least.

I'm sure what the Yotes are asking for Yandle would be prohibitively steep. However, he would be a good addition for these reasons:

- He's 25 years old.
- His cap-hit is a relatively reasonable $5.25M for the next 4 years.
- He's durable - has played 82 games the last 3 years.
- He has double-digit goals the last 3 years.
- He has been a plus player the last 3 years.
- He skates very well and would key the transition game.
- His 19 pts in 27 playoff games represents solid production.

Let's be clear, Shea Weber he is not! He lacks the right-handed bomb, nastiness, and D-zone presence of Weber but so do most defensemen.

Just curious: Why is he on the trading block, or even rumored to be so, in the first place? Is this ownership related?
- BOSS_TWEED

I believe so. They are rebuilding to if Doan leaves. Gets Yandle's salary off the books plus brings them young talent.

How is this trolling?
- Juice

Are you pulling my jimmy? A user comes on a Flyer message board and calls everyone Flyer Fairies?

Instead of questioning me, you should be in the huddle with the other mods and ban this type of outrageous behanvior. I was recently banned for saying let's all chill out.

Last night, someone told me to punch myself in the nutsack. Today, someone calls Flyers fans a bunch of fairies.

I'll let you decide your own opinion.

In a separate and unrelated matter, does anyone know where Tim Donaghy is working these days?

Flyers need to do a deal to improve their back end. They are not nearly as strong as what they were at this time last year.

I made it to one game (in Ottawa) against the Flyers. Spezza and Karlsson dominated Giroux, Karlsson owned the ice, I think he had four points. I love Giroux since his junior days with the Piques.

My point is the problem in that particular game was not Giroux. He plays a puck possession game as does Ottawa. But, he had nobody on his back end to support him. You cannot play up tempo puck possession without Dmen with the foot speed and smarts who can support the play and get back and protect your own end.

Holmgren is going to have to do a deal. Forget about Bobby Ryan for now. His best choice right now is Yendle, second is Boyle, third is J.Bo. Without the upgrade, I suspect the Flyers risk an organizational sophomore slump and are at risk of missing the playoffs.
- spatso

It's been nice chatting with you but plz go worry about your own team already. Flyers won't miss the playoffs.

Sign the RFA's and go to war with this group. Add a piece at the deadline if you need it.

Its time to let these kids grow together.
- MBFlyerfan

Here here! If you want to build a true team (i.e. more like a family than just players) you NEED to let these players grow with each other like true brothers. It's easy to get caught up in names but moving young players every year would be folly. 2011-12 was the first year of the Giroux era (i.e. Richie & Carts gone). They now have a great core that can get the job done IMO.

Are you pulling my jimmy? A user comes on a Flyer message board and calls everyone Flyer Fairies?

Instead of questioning me, you should be in the huddle with the other mods and ban this type of outrageous behanvior. I was recently banned for saying let's all chill out.

Last night, someone told me to punch myself in the nutsack. Today, someone calls Flyers fans a bunch of fairies.

I'll let you decide your own opinion.

In a separate and unrelated matter, does anyone know where Tim Donaghy is working these days?
- Daman

he lives in Florida and his working for a betting service...i think (no joke)

I think Lavy has to take a long hard look at his system and adapt.

You either Love the Flyers or Hate the Flyers...

no middle ground

That's what I like about this team franchise.....

It's been nice chatting with you but plz go worry about your own team already. Flyers won't miss the playoffs.
- JoeRussomanno

He's a Leafs fan.

glad to hear i am not the only one worried about those 3 defensemen,i was told to shut up yesterday when i mentioned it.anyway would love to see the flyers sign del zotto to an offer sheet.i think he is worth big money and the rags must be up against the cap.
- richiewinthecup

Yes let's worry about injuries that haven't happened. yet

I think Lavy has to take a long hard look at his system and adapt.
- Philly1980

I'd tweak it per the general idea of tweaking things to perfect them. The system itself isn't bad though. Any system executed properly is a good one.

Are you pulling my jimmy? A user comes on a Flyer message board and calls everyone Flyer Fairies?

Instead of questioning me, you should be in the huddle with the other mods and ban this type of outrageous behanvior. I was recently banned for saying let's all chill out.

Last night, someone told me to punch myself in the nutsack. Today, someone calls Flyers fans a bunch of fairies.

I'll let you decide your own opinion.

In a separate and unrelated matter, does anyone know where Tim Donaghy is working these days?
- Daman

I agree with what you are saying. Just like on the Preds board there was a picture of the middle finder....
edit
there still is...

My perspective is that right now this team is good enough right now to play and earn a high seeding in the Conference. The team that takes the ice in October, isn't necessarily the one that does in April. Moves can be made in the Season to address needs. This team has plenty to drop the puck right now.

It's disappointing, but not really that amazing that the Preds matched. Weber would have been great for the Flyers.

The one mildly surprising thing was after making an unprecedented bid to Weber as a RFA was not followed by more proactive efforts to guarantee that the Predators wouldn't match.

It sure seem that Holmgren and the Flyers figured that the contract was enough to kill the horse and that they'd get Weber and keep the roster intact. That view, especially in hindsight, seems very cavalier.

That said, I like the core that the Flyers have. I liked it prior to the Weber offer sheet. As you point out, the key is health on the blue line. Right now, I think I'd stand pat, unless a good deal came down the pike.

Sure I'd be bidding on Doan, but without Weber, there's little reason to go long term and big bucks on an over 35 deal for him. Also, right now I see no reason to run out and overpay for Bobby Ryan or Keith Yandle, either.

Columbus trading Nash for a less than expected package isn't going to drop Ryan's asking price, and besides, it seems the noise of him being dealt has subsided.
- Jsaquella

Weber might still end up here after Nashville gets cleaned out.

I'd like to see them sign Arnott to be the 4th line center. The solution on defense is more of a contribution from the forwards on the back end. Their biggest problem last year was getting pinned in their own zone, another defensive center would be a good addition. Lines would be:

Hartnell/G/Voracek
Simmonds/Briere/Schenn
Read/Couts/Wellwood
Fedotenko/Arnott/Talbot

That's at least an improvement on physicality and on the back end, and makes for an excellent 4th line.

Are you pulling my jimmy? A user comes on a Flyer message board and calls everyone Flyer Fairies?

Instead of questioning me, you should be in the huddle with the other mods and ban this type of outrageous behanvior. I was recently banned for saying let's all chill out.

Last night, someone told me to punch myself in the nutsack. Today, someone calls Flyers fans a bunch of fairies.

I'll let you decide your own opinion.

In a separate and unrelated matter, does anyone know where Tim Donaghy is working these days?
- Daman

Totally agree.. It's trolling and it should be a ban.

The OS for Weber was a shock to all of us, great move by Homer. In the end, it didn't work out. So be it. No sour grapes here...
At the same time, the defesne is really not that bad. As a Flyer fan I am used to them making a big splash in the offseason and this year (at this time) it hasn't happen. But, on the flip side, I love the youth and the depth on this team. With them keeping them, they are going to get better on THIS team versus trading them away and watching them get better.

I'm enjoying all the trolls and snarky comments on other pages that call us sour grapes. Homer played within the rules. Now the Preds are on the hook. Can they sustain the hit? Frankly, who cares, I'm not a Preds fan.

Defense
Good group/not great/and now they have a right handed shot from the point.
Offense
Good group/young and growing. Still need a vet (IMO), maybe a Doan or an Arnott. They lost JVR but JVR was a no show last year so they might me used to him not being in the line up.
Goalie
Bryz - I believe he will get better and so many people have already lost faith so to that I say oh well go root for another team. His stats don't lie showing he's a good goalie.

In Homer I trust.
Good BloB Bill
- phi1671

Thank you

Weber might still end up here after Nashville gets cleaned out.
- JoeRussomanno

Let them have cake...if i were homer id offer sheet Josi next year.

can't handle these webs and flows

oh a side note
how about the Cole Hamels

and then on top of that

Two comeback wins



kind of funny watching the emoticons bugged out all at once...
1....2....3....bug out!!!!

He's a Leafs fan.
- NickTheKid87

He's been pretty logical for the most part but i guess in the end their true colors come out. Flyers won't miss the playoffs #CONFIRMED