for Bou?

that weakens our forward ranks
- puckhead17

i hear cousins is on the up and up. Plus Lavo realy likes Read. He did compare him to Callahan. Read could really boom this year.

voracek and 4th. nothing more from the flyers end.
- tomburton99

No way in hell I trade Voracek for Bouwmeester.

- Jsaquella

I was replying to Read, MAB, + our 1st in 2013.
- moylander

Seems Read & MAB have had their bags packed all summer, I don't see that package getting Ryan though, unless a little more quality or another decent body goes in quantity

Id say 2 is the top.. If he's skating improves he will be a beast.....he'll even hartnell got better...as for puck moving he's pretty decent he had a poop year last year but their still is potential there... Not as bad as everryones making him

he's struggled a lot like L schenn, but he has the higher ceiling and more varied skill set...would take B schenn as WPG has needed a C forever. prob something like B schenn and MAB/Gusty for bogo and another forward.

that's why I harp on the JVR trade not aiming high enuf to get a better player. I'd rather get a better guy for schenn knowing I had JVR in tow. flyer fans know the deal - we have an excess of young forwards and we need to move one to get a first pairing dman. if we were good at drafting our own, it would be a diff story...but we're not.

only other alternative is to go the ufa route and that's pretty barren for nxt yr.
- isaiah520

I hear ya but if you don't include Brayden Schenn in a Weber deal before the offer sheet, I don't see how you put him in a trade for Bogosian.

At this point, I would offer Semin a contract that is 2 year, $11 million and see how the season goes and make a deal during the season. I really like the development of MAB and Gustafsson.

Hartnell-Giroux-Semin
Voracek-Briere-Schenn
Simmonds-Couturier-Read
Fedotenko-Talbot-Wellwood

Coburn-Grossman
Timonen-Schenn
Meszaros-Gervais/MAB

No way in hell I trade Voracek for Bouwmeester.
- MJL

ok, fair enough. I understand.

i hear cousins is on the up and up. Plus Lavo realy likes Read. He did compare him to Callahan. Read could really boom this year.
- tomburton99

No offense to to Read, but he's not Callahan.

He'll likely never have Weber's offensive game or puck moving abilities.

I'd be ecstatic if he reaches Adam Foote like level of play
- Jsaquella

would that be footeian or footesque?

the smoke has cleared, and im thinking luke schenn could be the next best dman...hes got the size and nasyiness to be like weber in 2-3 years putting him at the 25-26 year old "prime".
- mydoglicks

Luke doesn't have the shot or offensive game like Weber. I would think he will improve slightly on his offensive game but I can see him working with the likes of Hatcher, Pronger, even Kimmo to become a #1 shutdown d-man like Adam Foote in a few years

would that be footian or footesque?
- hammarby31

Footetopian

i hear cousins is on the up and up. Plus Lavo realy likes Read. He did compare him to Callahan. Read could really boom this year.
- tomburton99

dreger loves him. if that means anything.

Luke doesn't have the shot or offensive game like Weber. I would think he will improve slightly on his offensive game but I can see him working with the likes of Hatcher, Pronger, even Kimmo to become a #1 shutdown d-man like Adam Foote in a few years
- sulshawn

I think Adam Foote is a real good comparison for Schenn.

Willie MItchell might be a more current comparison.

I think his upside is higher then that. He could definitely develop into a top pairing compliment to a true #1.
- MJL

that's your opinion and your welcome to it.

Footetopian
- Jsaquella

i knew you'd come up with your own.

I think it's obvious how parts of Bouwmeester's game fell off the in the last 2-3 years, that it's not an injury or due to who he is playing with. Weber is a generational talent and arguably the best D man in the game. Not a great comparison.
- MJL

Well we finally agree on one item. That Weber is 1 of a kind
Other than that we can disagree

that's your opinion and your welcome to it.
- isaiah520

I sure am. And I think your going to find that this kid is going to be a much better player then you think he is going to be.

dreger loves him. if that means anything.
- hammarby31

During the rookie scrimmage, Cousins and Laughton were beautiful to watch. Whenever they were out there the pot was getting stirred, over and over again.Assuming they make it to the NHL and stay awhile, they will be beloved by Flyers fans...and pretty much despised by everyone else

i knew you'd come up with your own.
- hammarby31

My duaghter is drinking a Fruitopia as we speak...I stole it like Carlos Mencia in a coat room

I think Adam Foote is a real good comparison for Schenn.
- MJL

Was it Schenn that did that end to end Orr like rush goal against Boston a year or 2 ago?

He may have a little more offensive upside than Foote, he may not have been put into any offensive situations.

Just saying, no one does an end to end through 5 guys & has zero game in the offensive zone

When I look at Bouwmeester and his 6.68 Cap hit. I ask myself in what category is he among the best in the League? And my answer is none.

Unless you want to count durability and playing high minutes.
- MJL

He is a great skater and logs a ton of minutes, so he has that going for him

No way in hell I trade Voracek for Bouwmeester.
- MJL

I would stop watching the Flyers if they made that trade.

dreger loves him. if that means anything.
- hammarby31

it should, read is a good player. not great in one particular skill set, but solid enough to be an effective in all three zones.

I hear ya but if you don't include Brayden Schenn in a Weber deal before the offer sheet, I don't see how you put him in a trade for Bogosian.

At this point, I would offer Semin a contract that is 2 year, $11 million and see how the season goes and make a deal during the season. I really like the development of MAB and Gustafsson.

Hartnell-Giroux-Semin
Voracek-Briere-Schenn
Simmonds-Couturier-Read
Fedotenko-Talbot-Wellwood

Coburn-Grossman
Timonen-Schenn
Meszaros-Gervais/MAB
- sulshawn

homer may come to realize that opportunities and resources are limited to get such a plyr. if Laughton looks more like a 2nd liner this coming season, who knows what a re-evaluation may yield. dominoes...

During the rookie scrimmage, Cousins and Laughton were beautiful to watch. Whenever they were out there the pot was getting stirred, over and over again.Assuming they make it to the NHL and stay awhile, they will be beloved by Flyers fans...and pretty much despised by everyone else
- Jsaquella

Question is do the Flyers have the patience to wait on these kids or will they use them in a deal of some sort?