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flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jul 25 @ 3:30 PM ET
Hey Bill, I mentioned this earlier but I'd like your take on it. Visnovsky has filed a grievence to nix the trade to the Islanders. Should he got back to Anaheim, would he be worth trying to acquire? Bearing in mind Snow got him for a non first round pick? I'm sure we could do better than that for a veteran puck moving D-man with some defensive issues. Especially when we got the space for his contract and if he's not going to cost us the moon like J-bo or the like.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 25 @ 3:30 PM ET
WOW! Our defense is terrrrrible. We will be lucky keep out GAA under 4 this season.


Wait, you arent being sarcastic?

- jak521


yes and no. Timonen is coming off surgery and is 37 and Meszaros is coming off an injury as well. If both play like they can, they'll be fine.
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jul 25 @ 3:47 PM ET
Hartnell - Giroux - Semin
Briere - Schenn - Voracek
Simmonds - Coots - Read
Fedotenko - Moore - Talbot


Grossmann - Coburn
Timonen - Schenn
Meszaros - Colaiacovo

Bryz Leighton

Give Semin a 1 yr deal (5.5-6 million), could also prob get Colo (2-2.5 million) and Moore (1.25-1.5 million) on a one year deal as well.

Let's play some HOCKEY!
kow23
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.25.2008

Jul 25 @ 3:54 PM ET
"The already money-losing Predators' pride just got themselves into an almost impossible fiscal mess, with the situation a lock to get worse before it gets better. They made that choice by matching the offer sheet rather than seeking a reasonable trading solution with Philadelphia that would have kept Nashville at least solidly in the hunt for a playoff spot while adding draft pick assets and not tying their hands financially for at least six years to come."

I'm glad you are an expert with all things Nashville. Were are in trouble. Financially doomed. Out of the playoffs. Just call us Phoenix. Right. Now.

- TNGuy04


He's not an expert, but just looking at it from a business perspective and to him it doesn't make sense. Clearly the owners would have to use their personal finance to help the franchise. And Rich people got rich because they made smart business decision not emotional ones.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 25 @ 3:54 PM ET
Bills in love with Bogo...what would it take to get him?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 25 @ 3:54 PM ET
"It is no longer the Flyers' concern"


five paragraphs to open your blog critiquing and criticizing the nashville preds when "it is no longer the flyers' concern?"

you're better than that, sir...


anyhow...

need a d-man?





eshake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.20.2009

Jul 25 @ 3:55 PM ET
yes and no. Timonen is coming off surgery and is 37 and Meszaros is coming off an injury as well. If both play like they can, they'll be fine.
- flyersfan51


Kimo is a warrior...i'm sure he comes back to play one more top level season, but his minutes need to decrease. i like him on the second line with either Grossman or Schenn. Coburn needs to be the puck mover on the top line with the other.

Mezaros can also play 2nd line minutes to spot Kimmo....and Gervias is actually a good shot on the PP.

outside of the Pronger years, this definitely the best Flyers D in a bit. let's hope our 5+ million dollar man in goal is ready to bring it.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 25 @ 4:01 PM ET
"It is no longer the Flyers' concern"


five paragraphs to open your blog critiquing and criticizing the nashville preds when "it is no longer the flyers' concern?"

you're better than that, sir...


anyhow...

need a d-man?



- b0s0o1

Pretty sure Bill is not "The Flyers".
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 25 @ 4:02 PM ET
Bob Ryab! Screw Hartnell and his down, Flyers need a prophetic goal scorer! Hartnell had 37 FAKE goals which is 0 REAL goals! Ryab and Gir would combine for 100 goals!
- NickTheKid87

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 25 @ 4:08 PM ET
JayBo has a NTC. I thought I remember him saying when he went to Calgary that he did not want to play in a big city market in the East. I'm not sure he would waive his NTC to come to Philly.

Reading about his strengths (solid puck mover, big minute eater, doesn't miss games) reminded me of another recently departed blue liner from Philly, Carle.

Granted J Bo is probably the better hockey player, but those strengths are similar.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 25 @ 4:09 PM ET
Pretty sure Bill is not "The Flyers".
- feelingkettle


i really enjoy reading his copy...have a lot of respect for the guy...

but this whole weber thing, from promoting the mezaros, voracek, etc. no-match trade to this, which comes off as sour grapes just doesn't suit him well



anyhow...


jordan leopold, in the orange and black this season?
Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jul 25 @ 4:13 PM ET
Don't know if anyone saw these...



Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 25 @ 4:16 PM ET
Don't know if anyone saw these...




- Brian Huddle

#22 looks lean and mean in Orange

Seriously, almost skinny.
eshake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.20.2009

Jul 25 @ 4:16 PM ET
Don't know if anyone saw these...




- Brian Huddle


this seems really weird to say....but JvR looks good in a Leafs sweater

i'm so stoked for the Schenn bros!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 25 @ 4:17 PM ET
Oh, and Jvr at center... I give it 2 weeks before he is back at wing.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jul 25 @ 4:17 PM ET
Don't know if anyone saw these...

- Brian Huddle



spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 25 @ 4:18 PM ET
Hey Spatso is it true that there were issues between him and phaneuf...If so it will be an intersting first game.
- Philly1980


Yes, reports are that there was a very deep dislike between the two.
eshake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.20.2009

Jul 25 @ 4:20 PM ET
Yes, reports are that there was a very deep dislike between the two.
- spatso


between who?
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jul 25 @ 4:21 PM ET
Flyers need to do a deal to improve their back end. They are not nearly as strong as what they were at this time last year.

I made it to one game (in Ottawa) against the Flyers. Spezza and Karlsson dominated Giroux, Karlsson owned the ice, I think he had four points. I love Giroux since his junior days with the Piques.

My point is the problem in that particular game was not Giroux. He plays a puck possession game as does Ottawa. But, he had nobody on his back end to support him. You cannot play up tempo puck possession without Dmen with the foot speed and smarts who can support the play and get back and protect your own end.

Holmgren is going to have to do a deal. Forget about Bobby Ryan for now. His best choice right now is Yendle, second is Boyle, third is J.Bo. Without the upgrade, I suspect the Flyers risk an organizational sophomore slump and are at risk of missing the playoffs.

- spatso


oh shut the (frank) up about the flyers missing the playoffs. we're not the maple leafs
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 25 @ 4:21 PM ET
JayBo has a NTC. I thought I remember him saying when he went to Calgary that he did not want to play in a big city market in the East. I'm not sure he would waive his NTC to come to Philly.

Reading about his strengths (solid puck mover, big minute eater, doesn't miss games) reminded me of another recently departed blue liner from Philly, Carle.

Granted J Bo is probably the better hockey player, but those strengths are similar.

- Marc D


Ah, good call. I somewhat remember him not wanting to come to Philly when he was traded to Calgary.

Next.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 25 @ 4:23 PM ET
It's Ryan or nothing IMO.

Price for Yandle is exorbitant, as it should be.

Moves likely won't happen until the middle of the season.

- LordStanley88

What is the rumored asking price for Yandle?
I would think Detroit would be in the market for him big time.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 25 @ 4:24 PM ET
Ah, good call. I somewhat remember him not wanting to come to Philly when he was traded to Calgary.

Next.

- bradleyc4

He is a Western Canada boy iirc.

I'm wondering about the asking price for Yandle.

Anyone remember what was rumored?
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 25 @ 4:25 PM ET
Ah, good call. I somewhat remember him not wanting to come to Philly when he was traded to Calgary.

Next.

- bradleyc4

Any idea if Alex Semin is still available?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 25 @ 4:30 PM ET
Any idea if Alex Semin is still available?
- aightwebang17

Say if it was $7m, 1 year

yes or no?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 25 @ 4:31 PM ET
between who?
- eshake


There were a bunch of Toronto media reports that Luke Schenn and Phaneuf did not like each other and that it was the cause of serious tension in the dressing room. Not a problem for the Flyers. Phaneuf had the same reputation in Calgary.
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