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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 25 @ 12:57 PM ET
semin free agent

meszaros couturier wellwood MAB and draft picks for Ryan Fowler and Sbisa

- flyersfan51

No thanks...
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 25 @ 12:58 PM ET
And who are you trading for who?
- MJL



Apparently Couturier + for Ryan.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 25 @ 12:58 PM ET
I think with all the excitement nobody has taken into consideration the loss of Carle. I like Luke Schenn, I believe the Leafs messed up his development and Holmgren won that trade. But Schenn cannot make up for the loss of Carle and Holmgren needs to add a Dman who can support a puck possession attack. You cannot beat a strong defensive team like the Rangers if your own D cannot control their own end.
- spatso

you had me until the last sentence. Carle wasn't doing much to control our own end. Now if you wanted to tell me you need a puck mover to break out I'd buy that.
Manitobakid
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
Elvis was a hero to most but didn't mean poop to me.

Public enemy
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jul 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
Damn I hurt today! Iron Maiden was a great show.

Weber- figured they would match, oh well move on. How about a offer sheet to pk? 5 mill sounds about right, worst case the Habs over pay. Handle would be nice but I like the giving up draft pick route.

- Manitobakid



They always put on a great show.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 25 @ 1:00 PM ET
They always put on a great show.
- canadianpenfan

I miss concerts, moshing crowd surfing, walls of death stinking old age and spinal fusions damnit!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 25 @ 1:01 PM ET
Damn I hurt today! Iron Maiden was a great show.

Weber- figured they would match, oh well move on. How about a offer sheet to pk? 5 mill sounds about right, worst case the Habs over pay. Handle would be nice but I like the giving up draft pick route.

- Manitobakid

I caught maiden a few weeks ago in Camden, those old guys still got it!
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 25 @ 1:01 PM ET
Elvis was a hero to most but didn't mean poop to me.

Public enemy

- Manitobakid



Oh. Maybe not so harmonious as I thought. Looks like my post was removed, so maybe not appropriate for this forum.

My thoughts - Ryan next on the to do list, Semin no way, and Yandle unlikely.

I like the suggestions of Moore or other vets...could be interesting.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 25 @ 1:02 PM ET
Dustin Leed ‏@D_LEED

Ohboy RT @RandyJMiller: Holmgren: "There's still players out there we could acquire via a trade. It's July 25. There's still plenty of time"

- aosplayo



not how he worded it. the limited quote above makes it sound like he is going to make a trade where the whole convo doesn't necessarily say that

Q: I guess any other moves, be it on defense or forward would involve a trade. Are you of the mindset that any significant trade is in the picture for you guys right now?

"No, I don't necessarily agree with what you said. There are still players out there that require a trade. It's July 25th today, there's still plenty of time before we can plan and rule out anything right now. As I said earlier, we really like our team, we certainly don't want to make any drastic changes, but we are going to continue to look at ways to get better. The object is to have the best team going into training camp and that's what we're going to do. We'll see what happens."

Q: How important was it to protect guys like [Sean] Couturier and [Brayden] Schenn?

"We believe we have a good, young team that is only going to continue to get better. What we are trying to do is add to it without trying to take anything away. Anything we have done this summer has been just that. A caveat to that is we will look and see what we can do to make our team better, but our mind set is 'We like our team'. So, we are not looking to make big changes, we are looking to add without subtracting. We will see what we can do."

wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 25 @ 1:02 PM ET
Public money isn't being given to the Predators so they turn a profit. It's being given to them so they stay in Nashville. And generate money for the local economy and generate jobs in the area.
- MJL


Clearly that much public money could be put to far better uses for the public.

It's a ruse.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 25 @ 1:03 PM ET
I miss concerts, moshing crowd surfing, walls of death stinking old age and spinal fusions damnit!
- JoeRussomanno

Old age wasn't stopping Bruce Richardinson from jumping around and putting on a show like a young folk. Get back in the game!

EDIT: Oh my, what an autocensor that was
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 25 @ 1:03 PM ET
He still doesnt even come close to touching puckinghockey.

That kid is a total flake. He swears he is in the know having great sources. Some of his gems:
"I have said it and I will continue to say it, Flyers have only gone down hill since they traded Gagne"

On the Nash trade:
"I told you guys Nash was going to the Rangers, all you haters can suck it."

"Id take Anisimov and Dubinsky over Nash any day"

"Hagelin, Kreider and Boyle are not deep enough players. Maybe Steppan, but he even tends to fade sometimes"

On Shane Doan:
"Shane Doan visiting Philly today. Does this mean the end of Danny Briere or Scott Hartnell?"

On prospect camp:
"I love how all these Flyers reporters are trying to jam these prospect articles down our throats. This years prospects are garbage, move on."

- jak521

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 25 @ 1:04 PM ET
Old age wasn't stopping Bruce Richardinson from jumping around and putting on a show like a young folk. Get back in the game!
- BulliesPhan87

let's just say i don't have the same supply of supplements he does mkay?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 25 @ 1:05 PM ET
semin free agent

meszaros couturier wellwood MAB and draft picks for Ryan Fowler and Sbisa

- flyersfan51


I don't see Anaheim giving up 3 young players in that deal. And definitely not two young defenseman.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 25 @ 1:06 PM ET
you had me until the last sentence. Carle wasn't doing much to control our own end. Now if you wanted to tell me you need a puck mover to break out I'd buy that.
- JoeRussomanno


Sorry, I got to wordy, that is exactly what I meant. You won't find anybody better tha Schenn to clear the tront of the net or take a guy to the boards. But, he does not possess or pass the puck very well.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 25 @ 1:06 PM ET
not how he worded it. the limited quote above makes it sound like he is going to make a trade where the whole convo doesn't necessarily say that

Q: I guess any other moves, be it on defense or forward would involve a trade. Are you of the mindset that any significant trade is in the picture for you guys right now?

"No, I don't necessarily agree with what you said. There are still players out there that require a trade. It's July 25th today, there's still plenty of time before we can plan and rule out anything right now. As I said earlier, we really like our team, we certainly don't want to make any drastic changes, but we are going to continue to look at ways to get better. The object is to have the best team going into training camp and that's what we're going to do. We'll see what happens."

Q: How important was it to protect guys like

- nastyflyergirl[Sean] Couturier and [Brayden] Schenn?

"We believe we have a good, young team that is only going to continue to get better. What we are trying to do is add to it without trying to take anything away. Anything we have done this summer has been just that. A caveat to that is we will look and see what we can do to make our team better, but our mind set is 'We like our team'. So, we are not looking to make big changes, we are looking to add without subtracting. We will see what we can do."

Thanks, nfg. That's a more complete picture for sure. But then, he will always say "we like our team." (I'm wondering if that's tattooed somewhere.)
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 25 @ 1:07 PM ET
not how he worded it. the limited quote above makes it sound like he is going to make a trade where the whole convo doesn't necessarily say that

Q: I guess any other moves, be it on defense or forward would involve a trade. Are you of the mindset that any significant trade is in the picture for you guys right now?

"No, I don't necessarily agree with what you said. There are still players out there that require a trade. It's July 25th today, there's still plenty of time before we can plan and rule out anything right now. As I said earlier, we really like our team, we certainly don't want to make any drastic changes, but we are going to continue to look at ways to get better. The object is to have the best team going into training camp and that's what we're going to do. We'll see what happens."

Q: How important was it to protect guys like

- nastyflyergirl[Sean] Couturier and [Brayden] Schenn?

"We believe we have a good, young team that is only going to continue to get better. What we are trying to do is add to it without trying to take anything away. Anything we have done this summer has been just that. A caveat to that is we will look and see what we can do to make our team better, but our mind set is 'We like our team'. So, we are not looking to make big changes, we are looking to add without subtracting. We will see what we can do."




My apologies, I was just passing LEEDs tweet on.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 25 @ 1:07 PM ET
I think with all the excitement nobody has taken into consideration the loss of Carle. I like Luke Schenn, I believe the Leafs messed up his development and Holmgren won that trade. But Schenn cannot make up for the loss of Carle and Holmgren needs to add a Dman who can support a puck possession attack. You cannot beat a strong defensive team like the Rangers if your own D cannot control their own end.
- spatso


Losing Carle hurts. But with it comes opportunity for other players to step up and take on more responsibilities.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 25 @ 1:07 PM ET
The reality is that some of the players being mentioned may not be moved before the season. This is ok. A team like Anaheim, that downright sucks, may look to rebuild during the season as the realization of their biting a biggy becomes clearer. This is the moment when we can trade draft picks for players. Maybe our prospects for players.

Same is true for other franchises such as Phoenix - that may think they have a shot now but in reality they may miss the playoffs.

-CHEERS!!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 25 @ 1:08 PM ET
Sorry, I got to wordy, that is exactly what I meant. You won't find anybody better tha Schenn to clear the tront of the net or take a guy to the boards. But, he does not possess or pass the puck very well.
- spatso

yea not much argument here, I just hope and believe he will improve in those areas. Only time will tell. I do feel vulnerable in the puck moving department but I think Coburn, Mezaros, Timonen and Gervais can supply those talents collectively. However I don't think it will be that big of an issue where it will jeopardize the season.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 25 @ 1:08 PM ET
so your true colors are revealed
- JoeRussomanno












MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 25 @ 1:08 PM ET
you had me until the last sentence. Carle wasn't doing much to control our own end. Now if you wanted to tell me you need a puck mover to break out I'd buy that.
- JoeRussomanno


Puck movement and breaking out is a huge part of controlling the defensive end of the ice.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 25 @ 1:09 PM ET

- isaiah520

Exactly. My favorite is him saying about the trades (carter and Richards).

"LOL all you want, those guys won a cup and we didnt"

I said about us having received a fantastic package of players and picks that ultimately turned into Simmonds, Schenn, Grossmann, Voracek, Couts and Cousins.

He says

" prospect card means nothing to me. Couturier is solid. Schenn is not."
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 25 @ 1:10 PM ET
not how he worded it. the limited quote above makes it sound like he is going to make a trade where the whole convo doesn't necessarily say that

Q: I guess any other moves, be it on defense or forward would involve a trade. Are you of the mindset that any significant trade is in the picture for you guys right now?

"No, I don't necessarily agree with what you said. There are still players out there that require a trade. It's July 25th today, there's still plenty of time before we can plan and rule out anything right now. As I said earlier, we really like our team, we certainly don't want to make any drastic changes, but we are going to continue to look at ways to get better. The object is to have the best team going into training camp and that's what we're going to do. We'll see what happens."

Q: How important was it to protect guys like

- nastyflyergirl[Sean] Couturier and [Brayden] Schenn?

"We believe we have a good, young team that is only going to continue to get better. What we are trying to do is add to it without trying to take anything away. Anything we have done this summer has been just that. A caveat to that is we will look and see what we can do to make our team better, but our mind set is 'We like our team'. So, we are not looking to make big changes, we are looking to add without subtracting. We will see what we can do."

You're screen name does not match your posts. When I read them I want to change it to Thoughtfuleloquentlyspokenyounglady.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 25 @ 1:11 PM ET
Puck movement and breaking out is a huge part of controlling the defensive end of the ice.
- MJL

if you can take the body off the puck you'll control your own end, getting out and counterattacking is a whole other issue.
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