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Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:06 AM ET
You make it sound like Luongo could be had for a cheaper price than Bernier. I don't think that would be the case at all.
- LeafsOwnHabs


I certainly do. Apparently the Frattin +2nd deal was offered and declined for Bernier...you think Luongo would cost anything close to that?
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jul 25 @ 9:07 AM ET
But if he spoke like Bruce Wayne everyone would know who he is....

Let's be realistic here!!

- Pen15

Some people love the movie and say it is the best ever, quite a few say the trilogy (Nolan) is way overrated, You will always have that, personally, I think Bale is the 2nd worst Batman of the franchise, can't stand him.
LeafsOwnHabs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.12.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:08 AM ET
I certainly do. Apparently the Frattin +2nd deal was offered and declined for Bernier...you think Luongo would cost anything close to that?
- Colin Dambrauskas


If Luongo could be had for Frattin and a 2nd I think the deal would have been done long ago.

Let's put it this way...if Luongo could be had for less than or equal to Frattin and a 2nd rounder Vancouver wouldn't be having any trouble getting completing a deal for Luongo. Vancouver are definitely wanting more then that in my opinion.
deerow84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GTA, ON
Joined: 06.26.2012

Jul 25 @ 9:09 AM ET
I certainly do. Apparently the Frattin +2nd deal was offered and declined for Bernier...you think Luongo would cost anything close to that?
- Colin Dambrauskas


Yes.
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:11 AM ET
I don't see it getting done, Gillis hates Burke too much to give him a deal, and Burke is to pridefull to be a hypocrite and take on Lu's contract.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:11 AM ET
Leafs set to announce Steve Staios has joined the club as a player development advisor

meh...

- LeafMan


put skates back on him and have him go shore up the D

GoneFull
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.31.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:12 AM ET
If Luongo could be had for Frattin and a 2nd I think the deal would have been done long ago.
- LeafsOwnHabs


I bet that was not offered. I bet Komi or Connolol going the other way was part of it also.

Vancouver will not get better than Frattin + 2nd.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 25 @ 9:12 AM ET
true.

part of that can certainly be attributed that its the Kings vs the Leafs team lol

- big_dion


i think both samples are too small to gauge much. in both cases, you're talking about potential, so it would be a risk.
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:13 AM ET
I certainly do. Apparently the Frattin +2nd deal was offered and declined for Bernier...you think Luongo would cost anything close to that?
- Colin Dambrauskas


I personally think that he would cost more than Bernier, but given the fact that Bernier is available, people would rather pay that price for him.

The only teams that would pay the price for a goalie like Luongo are ones that are only a goalie away from being a cup competitor. The problem is that these teams don't really exist at the moment.

The only team I could have seen needing Luongo's services would have been TB, but they chose to go the Bernier route, by getting Lindback.

No team will pay the price for Luongo, because there isn't the demand from those types of teams. It's not that he isnt worth the price, he just isn't worth it to us.

And Morning All!
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:13 AM ET
If Luongo could be had for Frattin and a 2nd I think the deal would have been done long ago.
- LeafsOwnHabs


I very much doubt Luongo would be had for that...there might be a Frattin within the trade, but there will also be salary coming from Toronto.

Connolly/Lomardi/Komisarek will be included Im sure. But a Frattin + 2nd for Luongo wont happen...or atleast shouldnt happen. Bernier will cost a bit more than Luongo due to his age and potential. Luongo is proven, but 33 years old and has a 10 year contract...he will cost less than Bernier, no doubt.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:13 AM ET
Some people love the movie and say it is the best ever, quite a few say the trilogy (Nolan) is way overrated, You will always have that, personally, I think Bale is the 2nd worst Batman of the franchise, can't stand him.
- LeafMan


he's no george clooney
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:13 AM ET
I personally think that he would cost more than Bernier, but given the fact that Bernier is available, people would rather pay that price for him.

The only teams that would pay the price for a goalie like Luongo are ones that are only a goalie away from being a cup competitor. The problem is that these teams don't really exist at the moment.

The only team I could have seen needing Luongo's services would have been TB, but they chose to go the Bernier route, by getting Lindback.

No team will pay the price for Luongo, because there isn't the demand from those types of teams. It's not that he isnt worth the price, he just isn't worth it to us.

And Morning All!

- mfreedman



This is the reason...not because Bernier SHOULD cost more, but because of the available options, he WILL cost more.
GoneFull
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.31.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:13 AM ET
I don't see it getting done, Gillis hates Burke too much to give him a deal, and Burke is to pridefull to be a hypocrite and take on Lu's contract.
- wolfos412


very possible.

I am thinking there is a standing, take it or leave it, offer from the Leafs that is not close to what Gillis wants.

... which is just as well. I would love to see Vancouver choke on their goalie situation.
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:14 AM ET
Some people love the movie and say it is the best ever, quite a few say the trilogy (Nolan) is way overrated, You will always have that, personally, I think Bale is the 2nd worst Batman of the franchise, can't stand him.
- LeafMan




Adam West, George Clooney, Val Kilmer, etc....

Really?

I mean Kilmer wasn't bad as Batman, but the movie was awful.
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:14 AM ET
i think both samples are too small to gauge much. in both cases, you're talking about potential, so it would be a risk.
- DoubleDown


egg zach lee
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:14 AM ET
This is the reason...not because Bernier SHOULD cost more, but because of the available options, he WILL cost more.
- Colin Dambrauskas


Ok, then yes I agree with you.
LeafsOwnHabs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.12.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:14 AM ET
I bet that was not offered. I bet Komi or Connolol going the other way was part of it also.

Vancouver will not get better than Frattin + 2nd.

- GoneFullRetard


Oh Vancouver would have to take salary too....but they at least get Frattin and a 2nd...and then add a Connolly or Komi to offset salary.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jul 25 @ 9:15 AM ET
put skates back on him and have him go shore up the D


- Dozzer

That makes 9 in Management

add in 8 in the coaching staff

and 23 scouts

more management than players, lol

Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:16 AM ET
If Luongo could be had for Frattin and a 2nd I think the deal would have been done long ago.

Let's put it this way...if Luongo could be had for less than or equal to Frattin and a 2nd rounder Vancouver wouldn't be having any trouble getting completing a deal for Luongo. Vancouver are definitely wanting more then that in my opinion.

- LeafsOwnHabs


Thing is, I agree that Luongo has value and I agree hes a better option than Bernier...but where the disconnect is between us two seems that youre not considering that Vancouver has VERY limited trading partners for Luongo where as LA has a bunch, arguably. Not much risk in Bernier, and he has potential with his age. Most teams would rather take on Bernier.
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:16 AM ET
I very much doubt Luongo would be had for that...there might be a Frattin within the trade, but there will also be salary coming from Toronto.

Connolly/Lomardi/Komisarek will be included Im sure. But a Frattin + 2nd for Luongo wont happen...or atleast shouldnt happen. Bernier will cost a bit more than Luongo due to his age and potential. Luongo is proven, but 33 years old and has a 10 year contract...he will cost less than Bernier, no doubt.

- Colin Dambrauskas


Luongo would cost a 1st round pick. There is no way Gillis ships him off without a 1st coming back.

To us, that first is too precious and Burke wouldn't give it up (i hope). To a team that finishes in the playoffs, it would be worth it.

I personally would trade our first if it was top 10 protected.
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Jul 25 @ 9:16 AM ET
The thread in the Leafs section is a real poop show. How are there so many morons
- burn


Can someone ban this scooby doo tardy boy already.. this guy has been trolling all week
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:16 AM ET
That makes 9 in Management

add in 8 in the coaching staff

and 23 scouts

more management than players, lol

- LeafMan


makes for alot of 1 on 1 time
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:16 AM ET
That makes 9 in Management

add in 8 in the coaching staff

and 23 scouts

more management than players, lol

- LeafMan


Quantity not Quality right?
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:18 AM ET
Can someone ban this scooby doo tardy boy already.. this guy has been trolling all week
- Mr_Smokey


Just wait until Luongo gets traded for scraps, or see if they get stuck with him... then we can troll him
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 25 @ 9:18 AM ET
Some people love the movie and say it is the best ever, quite a few say the trilogy (Nolan) is way overrated, You will always have that, personally, I think Bale is the 2nd worst Batman of the franchise, can't stand him.
- LeafMan


are you a comic purist? i've noticed purists not being thrilled with the trilogy.

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