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Shep1991
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 06.16.2012

Jul 24 @ 8:48 PM ET
The server dropped it and we are now slowly reassembling it piece by piece thank you for your patience.
- braidan[/quote
get a better server.
braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:50 PM ET
[quote=braidan]The server dropped it and we are now slowly reassembling it piece by piece thank you for your patience.
- Shep1991[/quote
get a better server.

1st get quoting down, it's fairly easy
2nd the server is fine now, just needed another staple and some more chewing gum
aeroagm
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 02.26.2012

Jul 24 @ 8:53 PM ET
As much as I wanted him to be a Flyer I'm glad for their franchise that they matched. I admire them for running their team the way they want to and being successful at it. I just hope it doesn't ruin them financially, and I guess only time will tell.
- snake17


You guys still have Doan to look forward too.
Mozzy
Joined: 01.19.2009

Jul 24 @ 8:55 PM ET
If there is a lockout, or even a delayed season, Nashville will be in a major financial crisis. They are already projected to pay out a full season of revenue to Weber alone, if there is no season, they still owe him the $27mil. No season this year, means the entire revenue for the 2013-14 season will go to Weber for sitting home this year...they may have crippled themselves to save face...
StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

Jul 24 @ 8:55 PM ET
I never implied he was a UFA because he never was. I said he was a free agent. You said he wasn't, and then you said he was restricted free. Either way he was a free agent.

RFAs do not have contracts. That's why they are free agents. Restricted vs. Unrestricted has nothing to do with a player having a contract or not; they don't have a contract in either case until they decide to sign one. If they don't have a valid contract they don't play.

An arbitrator rules on compensation but has nothing to do with signing a contract. To say an arbitrator determines a player's contract is incorrect; they only determine the terms. The player is under no obligation to sign a contract for those terms.

There is always someone else, you're right. But it may not be who a team wants.

If you want to quit then quit.

- snake17

You did imply he was a UFA early on. You then changed your tune.

RFA vs. UFA is a big difference. UFA can choose where he wants to go, RFA not so much. He still has mommy and daddy who can decide if he can go there or not.

I said he was an RFA, not a FA because FA usually implies UFA. I expected you to get that, it's common sense. When asked "Who are the FA's this year, no one usually says "Weber." Instead they say "Doan, Parise, etc."

An arbitrator does give a contract for the next year. That's their job. I mean.. c'mon now. The least you can do is admit that. If no one signs a player to an offer sheet, it goes to arbitration where he gives his binding opinion on what it should be.

The player not playing to those terms has nothing to do with the fact that that is what the player earns for the next year. How often to players decline the arbitrators ruling and sit out the next year? Give me a break.

I won't quit you, I've been inundated with papers all week. Talking with you reduces the stress level.
MindFr3eak
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: strathvegas, ON
Joined: 01.18.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:01 PM ET
fun blog
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:13 PM ET
What are you talking about? Make some sense next time or don't say anything at all.
- weirdoh

snake17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Exton, PA
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 24 @ 9:13 PM ET
You did imply he was a UFA early on. You then changed your tune.

RFA vs. UFA is a big difference. UFA can choose where he want's to go, RFA not so much. He still has mommy and daddy who can decide if he can go there or not.

I said he was an RFA, not a FA. FA usually implies UFAI expected you to get that, it's common sense. When asked "Who are the FA's this year, no one usually says "Weber." Instead they say "Doan, Parise, etc."

An arbitrator does give a contract for the next year. That's their job. I mean.. c'mon now. The least you can do is admit that. If no one signs a player to an offer sheet, it goes to arbitration where he gives his binding opinion on what it should be.

The player not playing to those terms has nothing to do with the fact that that is what the player earns for the next year. How often to players decline the arbitrators ruling and sit out the next year? Give me a break.

I won't quit you, I've been inundated with papers all week. Talking with you reduces the stress level.

- StayTunedMTC


If you thought that I implied he was a UFA you misunderstood what I was saying. He has never been a UFA so I would never state that he was. If you can find a post where I said Weber is a UFA I will admit that I was wrong and you were right in a heartbeat.

RFA vs. UFA is a big difference, but the player is a free agent either way and doesn't have a contract either way. That was my point. As I've said numerous times Weber was under no obligation to play for the Preds next year if he didn't want to, prior to signing the offer sheet from the Flyers and the Preds matching.

If you mean UFA then say UFA. There are two types of free-agents; you can't just say free agent and assume that everyone knows you mean UFA.

The job of the arbitrator is to make a ruling between two parties that cannot come to an agreement. No arbitrator on the planet can force any player to step on the ice. I see what you're saying, but NHL arbitration is NOT binding; the team can walk away and make the player a UFA. And the player can refuse to abide by the terms of the arbitrator's ruling and sit out. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen and is not impossible.

shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:14 PM ET
The server dropped it and we are now slowly reassembling it piece by piece thank you for your patience.
- braidan

Is this the blogger version of my dog ate my homework?
snake17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Exton, PA
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 24 @ 9:15 PM ET
You guys still have Doan to look forward too.
- aeroagm


I hope not. Nothing against the guy but I don't want any part of a long term contract for a FW his age. I actually think the Flyers will be somewhat quiet for the rest of the off-season unless Anaheim changes their mind about what they want for Bobby Ryan.
preds24
Nashville Predators
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 24 @ 10:50 PM ET
The new cba coming in is only reason he signed that deal other wise he would have sat b/c I doubt Nashville would offer him that deal in the first place
- arnpriorguy



One of Preds owners, Brett Wilson, said in radio interview today that Preds had offered Weber $104 million.
kypredsfan
Nashville Predators
Location: where Weber trolls Philly, KY
Joined: 06.15.2007

Jul 25 @ 1:03 AM ET
Dear Quebec City,

You now you have 2 potential suitors and 1 has the best defenseman in the NHL for the next 14 years! Although by the time they move there will probably be about 12 years left on his contract, anyway you're welcome.

Love,

-The Flyers

- kdawg9

There are some butthurt Flyers fans today. I love it.
mattva03
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 11.15.2010

Jul 25 @ 2:48 AM ET
I love reading such insightful comments from people in Philly! We went from the team that will relocate bc we don't spend money to the team that will relocate bc we spent to much. Who knew there were this many people in PA with such extensive experience managing the finances of professional sports franchises with zero knowledge of the true financial situation of that organization.
jl639s
Nashville Predators
Location: Mount JUliet, TN
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 25 @ 9:06 AM ET
In all seriousness, the fact the Preds will have to at least match ticket revenue sales from the previous year JUST to pay Weber cash money and use merchandise, concession and Maple Leaf money to pay the OTHER players and staff doesn't worry you?


First off, he will get $27 million within 11 months, but that is for 2 years of service. Once he gets that second $13 million, we only owe him another $1 Mil for his salary the second year. So we dont need $27 Mil in ticket sales in one year to pay him. Secondly, as everyone has said before, dont you think they discussed if they can afford this before they matched? Maybe we should leave the finances to the professionals

Not to mention the amount in Jersey sales he will probably now bring. Especially with the majority of fans Tootoo jersey's being no good. Who do you think they will replace those with? How about the guy who is signed until 2026.
YouAreTheGovt
Nashville Predators
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:34 AM ET
First off, he will get $27 million within 11 months, but that is for 2 years of service. Once he gets that second $13 million, we only owe him another $1 Mil for his salary the second year. So we dont need $27 Mil in ticket sales in one year to pay him. Secondly, as everyone has said before, dont you think they discussed if they can afford this before they matched? Maybe we should leave the finances to the professionals

Not to mention the amount in Jersey sales he will probably now bring. Especially with the majority of fans Tootoo jersey's being no good. Who do you think they will replace those with? How about the guy who is signed until 2026.

- jl639s



Thanks for this. I didn't have the energy to type that out. $27 million is owed within a year, but it's for two years of dominating the NHL and smashing faces into the glass. Deal with it Flyers.
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