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rob121
Montreal Canadiens
Location: montreal
Joined: 12.08.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:15 PM ET
Time for the LEVES TO MAKE IT TO CUP FINALS YESS?
- weirdoh



sorry, bud. the leaves are the epitome of loveable losers. they are the chicago cubs of hockey. their glory lies in long standing failure. winning just doesn't suit them.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:16 PM ET
Ok. You're just trying to talk yourself out of looking like a dumbass, so just drop it.
- aeroagm




Well good on the Preds for showing they can compete with the big boys. Because I have the attention span of a carrot, are the Preds set on keeping him? Or can they trade him in a year?
StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

Jul 24 @ 8:16 PM ET
No, the arbitrator makes a decision about what his compensation will be. He is under absolutely no obligation to sign the contract. If he decided to sit out he would have every right to.
- snake17

No?

No to what?

I said the arbitrator decides his salary for the next year.

And then you say the same thing.

Any player can sit his contract out.

You are a masterpiece of failure.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:16 PM ET
sorry, bud. the leaves are the epitome of loveable losers. they are the chicago cubs of hockey. their glory lies in a past of failure. winning just doesn't suit them.
- rob121




You just wait until Pey Pey and Getz join. HUZZAH! HUZZAH 4 LIFE MOTHER (frank)ERS!
aeroagm
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 02.26.2012

Jul 24 @ 8:18 PM ET
Umm very wrong an RFA can deside not to sign and sit out until he signs a contract he likes however if he doesn't since by December first of that year he sits out the rest of the year and if u think he was entitled to arbitration he wasn't first 5 years of NHL service a team can take him to arbitration after that none
- arnpriorguy


We did take him to arbitration last year though, so we wouldn't have been able to again. He, however, had the option to go to arbitration but didn't do it.
StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

Jul 24 @ 8:18 PM ET
You may want to learn the game a little better before dismissing people as a douche when you are incorrect. But again, it's your dime.
- snake17

Even if you are correct (HAHA, can you imagine?) and I don't know what I'm talking about regarding salaries and UFAs and RFAs, none of this has anything to do with hockey, the game that's played on ice (amiright?).

Keep it up. You're my entertainment for the night.
rob121
Montreal Canadiens
Location: montreal
Joined: 12.08.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:19 PM ET
You're faulting players for wanting to win?
- bonzo11




i'm faulting star players who don't want to lead their teams but only want to ride coattails.
Betelgeuse
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 05.19.2012

Jul 24 @ 8:20 PM ET
Hello
- weirdoh

Hi
snake17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Exton, PA
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:20 PM ET
Ok. You're just trying to talk yourself out of looking like a dumbass, so just drop it.
- aeroagm


I have nothing to talk my way out of. I never once said Weber was a UFA. I'm not sure what you are referring to.
aeroagm
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 02.26.2012

Jul 24 @ 8:20 PM ET
Well good on the Preds for showing they can compete with the big boys. Because I have the attention span of a carrot, are the Preds set on keeping him? Or can they trade him in a year?
- weirdoh


Well we can trade him in a year, just very very unlikely too. Not very smart to match an offer sheet as front-loaded as this one just to turn around and trade him...unfortunately for the rest of the league...Shea is ours
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:21 PM ET
Well we can trade him in a year, just very very unlikely too. Not very smart to match an offer sheet as front-loaded as this one just to turn around and trade him...unfortunately for the rest of the league...Shea is ours
- aeroagm




That's a good point about the massive up front moola.
StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

Jul 24 @ 8:21 PM ET
I have nothing to talk my way out of. I never once said Weber was a UFA. I'm not sure what you are referring to.
- snake17

You have multiple broken arguments and half-truths throughout almost every one of your posts.

But yeah, you have nothing to talk your way out of because you are ignorant and ignorant people don't have a clue they're being ignorant.

Completely understandable.

Carry on, lad.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:22 PM ET
Hi
- Betelgeuse




12 hour days Stee Dot...12 (frank)ing hours. I'm too fat to do that poop anymore.
Betelgeuse
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 05.19.2012

Jul 24 @ 8:24 PM ET
12 hour days Stee Dot...12 (frank)ing hours. I'm too fat to do that poop anymore.
- weirdoh

Not gonna lie. Starting to miss them 12 hr. days.
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 8:25 PM ET
(frank) off
- bonzo11

If he wasn't a (frank)ing wop you wouldn't care i called him greasy.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:25 PM ET
Not gonna lie. Starting to miss them 12 hr. days.
- Betelgeuse




I volunteered for them so I shouldn't say anything bad. Just long as (frank). Just that it's 5 days a week...seems a little daunting.
rob121
Montreal Canadiens
Location: montreal
Joined: 12.08.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:26 PM ET
You just wait until Pey Pey and Getz join. HUZZAH! HUZZAH 4 LIFE MOTHER (frank)ERS!
- weirdoh




problem is, whoever enters, is entering a losing culture. all you need is luongo and you guys are done. roberto "i've never won anything" is just the goalie the cubs...i mean, the leafs need.
snake17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Exton, PA
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:26 PM ET
You have multiple broken arguments and half-truths throughout almost every one of your posts.

But yeah, you have nothing to talk your way out of because you are ignorant and ignorant people don't have a clue they're being ignorant.

Completely understandable.

Carry on, lad.

- StayTunedMTC


Again, you're the one that said a restricted free agent was not a free agent. I'm not sure I can do worse than that. I'm not ignorant, I'm not stupid, and I'm not a douche. And I've offered no half-truths or broken arguments.

You don't understand how free-agency works in the NHL, but that's cool. Get educated about it; it makes for better discussion.

And I would say signing players to contracts has EVERYTHING to do with the product on the ice.
preds24
Nashville Predators
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 24 @ 8:27 PM ET
Have you ever heard of the term arbitration? He didn't have a contract he would have been arbitrated a 1 yeard deal then he'd become an UFA. Unless I am completely wrong that is how I understand the RFA thing.
- Efs5030



The Preds took Weber to arbitration last year which means they couldn't do it again this year. Weber could have opted for arbitration this year, but he turned down that option earlier this summer. I'm pretty sure if a deal hadn't been done, he would have played for the qualifying offer the Preds filed back in June.

snake17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Exton, PA
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:28 PM ET
No?

No to what?

I said the arbitrator decides his salary for the next year.

And then you say the same thing.

Any player can sit his contract out.

You are a masterpiece of failure.

- StayTunedMTC


The arbitrator decides what his compensation will be if he signs a contract with that team. But that doesn't make it a valid contract, it just lays out the parameters for what the contract will be. He can choose to sign it or not.
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 8:28 PM ET
sorry, bud. the leaves are the epitome of loveable losers. they are the chicago cubs of hockey. their glory lies in long standing failure. winning just doesn't suit them.
- rob121

Got " location" Ken?
aeroagm
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 02.26.2012

Jul 24 @ 8:28 PM ET
I have nothing to talk my way out of. I never once said Weber was a UFA. I'm not sure what you are referring to.
- snake17


Also on your point about: "Poile had over a year to get a contract done with Weber and he didn't do it. When you let another GM negotiate your players contracts you get what you get."

I don't want you leaving this forum honestly believing that Poile didn't already try to sign, his captain and one of the best D-man, long term. Shea just wanted to get to RFA and, I think just wanted to see what Suter was going to do once he got to UFA, hence the extended one year contract last year.
Betelgeuse
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 05.19.2012

Jul 24 @ 8:28 PM ET
If he wasn't a (frank)ing wop you wouldn't care i called him greasy.
- shinebox

arnpriorguy
Ottawa Senators
Location: Arnprior, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jul 24 @ 8:29 PM ET
We did take him to arbitration last year though, so we wouldn't have been able to again. He, however, had the option to go to arbitration but didn't do it.
- aeroagm

Yeah last year was year 5 after that weber can say no to an arbitrator leaving him and the team to work ok the contract I bet if Philly had not put out on offer sheet he would have sat and waited for the right contract which is his right as RFA in his final year of RFA status
snake17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Exton, PA
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:30 PM ET
The Preds took Weber to arbitration last year which means they couldn't do it again this year. Weber could have opted for arbitration this year, but he turned down that option earlier this summer. I'm pretty sure if a deal hadn't been done, he would have played for the qualifying offer the Preds filed back in June.
- preds24


He probably would have, but various people have indicated that he would have been forced to which is not the case.
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