So are we just ignoring the fact that Murray already sat down with Ryan and attempted to smooth things over? Or am I an idiot to think that hockeybuzz and someone like Eklund would ever let Bobby Ryan rumors die even after they couldn't be anymore dead.
- mochoson

Remember when Columbus tried to smooth things over with Rick Nash, These are BIG egos we are talking about here.

TJ BRENNAN
CHRISTIAN EHRHOFF
JORDAN LEOPOLD
BRAYDEN MCNABB
TYLER MYERS
ADAM PARDY
ROBYN REGEHER
ANDREJ SEKERA
ALEXANDER SULZER
MIKE WEBER

10 NHL capable defensmen, thats not including everyone wainting in Rochacha to get their first nod
- GJBoxer14

Huh? You just included 3 guys will play in Rochester and 2 who are borderline NHL capable. Two more are on the wrong end of their careers and the remaining three are hit and miss.

There was special circumstances, Nash had columbus by the balls
- GJBoxer14

I'm not disagreeing with you, but it's pretty weak that a player can have that kind of control even though they knowingly agreed to a lucrative contract with that club. I think Nash should have to sit in Columbus and choke on that piece of paper he signed...

Huh? You just included 3 guys will play in Rochester and 2 who are borderline NHL capable. Two more are on the wrong end of their careers and the remaining three are hit and miss.
- sambarugh

All of them can play in the NHL though, There are worse defensemen starting on other teams in the NHL

Huh? You just included 3 guys will play in Rochester and 2 who are borderline NHL capable. Two more are on the wrong end of their careers and the remaining three are hit and miss.
- sambarugh

I disagree here. We have strength on D in the prospect rank. That may be valuable for teams wo do not want to take on additional Salary

TJ BRENNAN
CHRISTIAN EHRHOFF
JORDAN LEOPOLD
BRAYDEN MCNABB
TYLER MYERS
ADAM PARDY
ROBYN REGEHER
ANDREJ SEKERA
ALEXANDER SULZER
MIKE WEBER

10 NHL capable defensmen, thats not including everyone wainting in Rochacha to get their first nod
- GJBoxer14

time to dump two of these bros with other prospects/ picks for a solid player. doesnt necessarily have to be of the "star" caliber...just someone that can come in an put up respectable #s


sure all of these guys are NHL defensemen...but a hard majority of them are only career 5/6 guys


regehr is past his prime and isnt a top 4 anymore (even homer said it...so dont chirp me)
sulzer- very solid last year loved his play but again, a 5/6
pardy-5/6
weber-5/6
brennan-6/7 at best

sekera-anywhere from 2-8 some nights haha



My point is this, you cant package together a whole bunch of $hit pieces and think that a ton of $hit equals gold. At the end of the day poop is still poop...no gm will want 2 of our bottom tier players plus a prospect plus a 1st rounder (presumed to be a very late 1st rounder given that the team wants to go deep into the playoffs)

all these nonsense trade proposals are starting to irritate me...were starting to sound like leafs fans with their whole kadri/schenn nonsense

I'm not disagreeing with you, but it's pretty weak that a player can have that kind of control even though they knowingly agreed to a lucrative contract with that club. I think Nash should have to sit in Columbus and choke on that piece of paper he signed...
- clarkysduster

Teams will be stingier with NTCs

Not to feed the stereo-type of "Every player to Toronto" but I have to think that the Irish Sweatbeast that runs the Leafs would make a serious(inflated) offer should Ryan actually be available. He gets such a hardon from his ex-players.

Wings here in Boston stink. I don't even bother ordering them anymore.
- IceColdBeer

That sucks
I know u can get different places hot sauces shipped to you...
I'd think u could prob get raw wings also shipped out & just by a deep fryer n do them yourself

I'm not disagreeing with you, but it's pretty weak that a player can have that kind of control even though they knowingly agreed to a lucrative contract with that club. I think Nash should have to sit in Columbus and choke on that piece of paper he signed...
- clarkysduster

Plus Howson had a month and a half before he really had to do anything. He flinched first and did not get the best return for his team.

time to dump two of these bros with other prospects/ picks for a solid player. doesnt necessarily have to be of the "star" caliber...just someone that can come in an put up respectable #s


sure all of these guys are NHL defensemen...but a hard majority of them are only career 5/6 guys


regehr is past his prime and isnt a top 4 anymore (even homer said it...so dont chirp me)
sulzer- very solid last year loved his play but again, a 5/6
pardy-5/6
weber-5/6
brennan-6/7 at bes

sekera-anywhere from 2-8 some nights haha



My point is this, you cant package together a whole bunch of $hit pieces and think that a ton of $hit equals gold. At the end of the day poop is still poop...no gm will want 2 of our bottom tier players plus a prospect plus a 1st rounder (presumed to be a very late 1st rounder given that the team wants to go deep into the playoffs)

all these nonsense trade proposals are starting to irritate me...were starting to sound like leafs fans with their whole kadri/schenn nonsense
- HAMgerber

crap i never clarified:...a realistic deal would be like sekera, mcnabb/pysyk, plus like an armia/adam type, plus a pick or two to get someone worthwhile...gotta give to get

Teams will be stingier with NTCs
- GJBoxer14

Think of how much more interesting the trade deadline and the draft would be if they no longer existed...sigh.

crap i never clarified:...a realistic deal would be like sekera, mcnabb/pysyk, plus like an armia/adam type, plus a pick or two to get someone worthwhile...gotta give to get
- HAMgerber

I doubt you'd get Ryan for that. You need to include at least one "has the potential to be a star" player. The Ducks will need him when everyone else jumps ship.

You've been on this thread before, right?
- nfph

You mean the once a week thread Garth posts about how the Sabres could "realistically" get Bobby Ryan as if it were an every day hockey trade?

Ya

It really doesn't make sense to trade Ryan before Getzlaf and Perry are signed to extensions...if they trade him and they walk next year, the Ducks are ruined.
- clarkysduster

I'd almost guarantee that Getzlaf and Perry will be traded
There's no way they're re-signing there

You mean the once a week thread Garth posts about how the Sabres could "realistically" get Bobby Ryan as if it were an every day hockey trade?

Ya
- mochoson

Knowing that, doesn't it undercut your incredulity a skoche?

time to dump two of these bros with other prospects/ picks for a solid player. doesnt necessarily have to be of the "star" caliber...just someone that can come in an put up respectable #s


sure all of these guys are NHL defensemen...but a hard majority of them are only career 5/6 guys


regehr is past his prime and isnt a top 4 anymore (even homer said it...so dont chirp me)
sulzer- very solid last year loved his play but again, a 5/6
pardy-5/6
weber-5/6
brennan-6/7 at best

sekera-anywhere from 2-8 some nights haha



My point is this, you cant package together a whole bunch of $hit pieces and think that a ton of $hit equals gold. At the end of the day poop is still poop...no gm will want 2 of our bottom tier players plus a prospect plus a 1st rounder (presumed to be a very late 1st rounder given that the team wants to go deep into the playoffs)

all these nonsense trade proposals are starting to irritate me...were starting to sound like leafs fans with their whole kadri/schenn nonsense
- HAMgerber

I agree, but there is a reason they have so much backed up. Why sign the Pardys of the world when you know you have youngs guns ready to take their shot at the 5/6 spot, not saying they are gunna trade 4 of these guys for ryan, but they do add value when you package them with picks and someone else with real value, who that Base will be... No clue, but Darcy has got to be up to something, backing these defensemen up is a sign that there will be some kind of move, that or Darcy is paranoid about injuries after last season

Remember when Columbus tried to smooth things over with Rick Nash, These are BIG egos we are talking about here.
- GJBoxer14

At no point did they try to "smooth" things over. Nash asked for a trade. Got one.

Bobby Ryan basically said "If your gonna keep throwing my name out and gauging interest and creating all these rumors, then just do it already. I dont want to be traded, but I'm not gonna be the first guy brought up when everyone talks about how the team needs changes"

Big difference.

Knowing that, doesn't it undercut your incredulity a skoche?
- nfph

No, given the fact that everytime I come in here Garth has come up with even newer, full-proof logic as to why it makes sense and why it's going to happen.

Believe me, after this blog, I'm literally expecting 10 more at a bare minimum before the September.

Knowing that, doesn't it undercut your incredulity a skoche?
- nfph

No, given the fact that everytime I come in here Garth has come up with even newer, full-proof logic as to why it makes sense and why it's going to happen.

Believe me, after this blog, I'm literally expecting 10 more at a bare minimum before the September.

I doubt you'd get Ryan for that. You need to include at least one "has the potential to be a star" player. The Ducks will need him when everyone else jumps ship.
- clarkysduster

apparently you've never heard of joel armia? kid is supposed to have the best shot in the world

McNabb, Stafford, Ennis, 1st

Thats realistically what your looking at at a bare minimum for Bobby Ryan.

There are other teams who can offer way better packages, and that's IF he were available.

McNabb, Stafford, Ennis, 1st

Thats realistically what your looking at at a bare minimum for Bobby Ryan.

There are other teams who can offer way better packages, and that's IF he were available.
- mochoson

excuse me? stafford...mcnabb...ennis...AND a 1st? are we getting getzlaf AND ryan back?

apparently you've never heard of joel armia? kid is supposed to have the best shot in the world
- qcstudios

Ah, you're right. I just checked him out on Hockey's Future. Tons of potential. Not a can't miss, but definitely interesting.

McNabb, Stafford, Ennis, 1st

Thats realistically what your looking at at a bare minimum for Bobby Ryan.

There are other teams who can offer way better packages, and that's IF he were available.
- mochoson

Examples?