ask me again next year. I think if they stop with this center experiment that hell be much closer to what he was in Philly
- CaptPantalones

He does not fit with this team either wing or center.

He does not fit with this either wing or center.
- SABRES 89

he was much better on the wing.

I know Homer said he wants to play on a line with Gerbe and Kaleta. Let him and see what he can do as a checking C if hes open to it

If not, I feel hed be ideal on a line with Pominville and Grigorenko

Someone may. I mean Versteeg just got paid almost 6 mil a year. The Panthers took Campbell from Chicago and his 7 mil.
- ImThatGuy

4.4mil per...

IMO these are the Sabres comparables to the Nash Trade.

Dubinsky - Ennis/Hodgson
Anisimov - Foligno
Erixon - Sekera/Pysyk
+ a first.

It just so happens that the NYR are loaded and can afford to give that up.
- ImThatGuy

Ennis and Hodgson are both WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more valuable than Dubinsky. Dubi is a 3rd liner capable of playing some 2nd line. Ennis and Hodgson are potential 1st liners.

Buffalo has a suspiciously stacked defensive depth chart. Filled with valuable prospects.
- GJBoxer14

This statement come up a lot, but 1. Is it really that true and 2. If so, are we alone? Sure we have some young guys that we've drafted that look promising, but the same could be said for a bunch of other NHL teams. It's not like we're the only franchise with a McNabb or Pysyk waiting to be called up.

We have an OK NHL defense - a nicely developing AHL defense - and a few promising defensemen in other leagues. But again, we're not alone in those positions.

he was much better on the wing.

I know Homer said he wants to play on a line with Gerbe and Kaleta. Let him and see what he can do as a checking C if hes open to it

If not, I feel hed be ideal on a line with Pominville and Grigorenko
- CaptPantalones

Sorry I just don't agree, his contracts is killing us as is his play no matter where you put him.

It really doesn't make sense to trade Ryan before Getzlaf and Perry are signed to extensions...if they trade him and they walk next year, the Ducks are ruined.
- clarkysduster

they kinda already are. no way getz stays next year. he'll test the market for sure.

well our wall is currently broken, so breaking it down and rebuilding the new wall could be what the team needs to finally get over the edge and get to the SCF's if not win the cup.

thats the goal.
- qcstudios

Yea put why get rid of vanek to get ryan. both wingers yes but both have important styles to them that help create what you need for a successful team, I currently look at the sabres roster and I think that aside from leino, there arn't any expendables. each player fills a need or potentially fills a need, not to mention last year is a terrible sample size for this mix of players, before you go ahead and start bulldozing down everything I think you have the obligation to see what a healthy sabres team can bring, without the conceded selfishness of Derek Roy and With the added grit and heart of Steve Ott.

Sorry I just don't agree, his contracts is killing us as is his play no matter where you put him.
- SABRES 89

Yeah - he's like a square peg in a round hole when you start putting lines together.

they kinda already are. no way getz stays next year. he'll test the market for sure.
- qcstudios

True. So seems odd why they'd trade Ryan for anything less than a big overpayment, which doesn't seem to be the case with the packages being offered. The value is likely there, but the Ducks don't really have incentive to make the deal, IMHO anyways.

Sorry I just don't agree, his contracts is killing us as is his play no matter where you put him.
- SABRES 89

The contract isnt killing them. they still have money to spend.

If he flops again this year, im on board. But I feel he, maybe more then anyone else, will have a chip on their shoulder to play much more inspired next yr

So are we just ignoring the fact that Murray already sat down with Ryan and attempted to smooth things over? Or am I an idiot to think that hockeybuzz and someone like Eklund would ever let Bobby Ryan rumors die even after they couldn't be anymore dead.

Ennis and Hodgson are both WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more valuable than Dubinsky. Dubi is a 3rd liner capable of playing some 2nd line. Ennis and Hodgson are potential 1st liners.
- rhornsburg

Thats the thing for the Sabres to land anyone of that caliber they have to better the offer. And right now that is the Center Depth. So one ofHodgson/Ennis would have to be involved in any deal for Ryan or the likes there of.

The contract isnt killing them. they still have money to spend.

If he flops again this year, im on board. But I feel he, maybe more then anyone else, will have a chip on their shoulder to play much more inspired next yr
- CaptPantalones

They don't have much to spend once Ennis and Kaleta( ) are signed, no way Leino is worth 4.5 mill.

So, do you think that the Nash trade set the market, or will other GMs regard it as a bad trade for Columbus?

Darcy: Hello Bob; its Darcy.

Bob: whats up Darcy?

Darcy: what would you want in return for Bobby Ryan?

Bob: Tyler Myers.

Darcy: ok Bob, have a nice day.

Conversation over.

4.4mil per...
- clarkysduster

My bad i though i heard 6. You are correct. 4 years 17.6 million.

They don't have much to spend once Ennis and Kaleta( ) are signed, no way Leino is worth 4.5 mill.
- SABRES 89

There are about 200 players in this league that arent worth what they make. Unfortunately, thats what fair market value calls for.

and the reason why we wont have any hockey to watch before December this yr

My bad i though i heard 6. You are correct. 4 years 17.6 million.
- ImThatGuy

Still pretty big for 1 year of production though, eh?

This statement come up a lot, but 1. Is it really that true and 2. If so, are we alone? Sure we have some young guys that we've drafted that look promising, but the same could be said for a bunch of other NHL teams. It's not like we're the only franchise with a McNabb or Pysyk waiting to be called up.

We have an OK NHL defense - a nicely developing AHL defense - and a few promising defensemen in other leagues. But again, we're not alone in those positions.
- sambarugh

TJ BRENNAN
CHRISTIAN EHRHOFF
JORDAN LEOPOLD
BRAYDEN MCNABB
TYLER MYERS
ADAM PARDY
ROBYN REGEHER
ANDREJ SEKERA
ALEXANDER SULZER
MIKE WEBER

10 NHL capable defensmen, thats not including everyone wainting in Rochacha to get their first nod

So, do you think that the Nash trade set the market, or will other GMs regard it as a bad trade for Columbus?
- clarkysduster

How Howson has a job is beyond me. He had no reson to cave so soon other than media pressure. IMO it has little impact on it. Mostly because if you look at Howsons trade history, it's not very good.

Still pretty big for 1 year of production though, eh?
- clarkysduster

Yea. His contract is still up befor Leinos though. SOB!!!

So are we just ignoring the fact that Murray already sat down with Ryan and attempted to smooth things over? Or am I an idiot to think that hockeybuzz and someone like Eklund would ever let Bobby Ryan rumors die even after they couldn't be anymore dead.
- mochoson

You've been on this thread before, right?

How Howson has a job is beyond me. He had no reson to cave so soon other than media pressure. IMO it has little impact on it. Mostly because if you look at Howsons trade history, it's not very good.
- ImThatGuy

There was special circumstances, Nash had columbus by the balls

How Howson has a job is beyond me. He had no reson to cave so soon other than media pressure. IMO it has little impact on it. Mostly because if you look at Howsons trade history, it's not very good.
- ImThatGuy

There was special circumstances, Nash had columbus by the balls