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HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 24 @ 12:58 AM ET
Nothing about wings, beer, naked dwarfs, etc.

Perhaps more trolls than usual, they all had been drinking it seems. For some, drinking makes you brave.

On a philosophical note, there was sentiment along the lines of "frank the Yankees" and "frank the Rangers". It seemed well placed.

- DixonWard


Thanks.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:03 AM ET
yes...he's 27 years old...and a captain too
- b0s0o1


Then we have drastically different ideas of what "prime" means
And he's accomplished what as a captain?
Hasn't won a playoff series, has he?

No thanks

HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 24 @ 1:05 AM ET
Then we have drastically different ideas of what "prime" means
And he's accomplished what as a captain?
Hasn't won a playoff series, has he?

No thanks

- jdfitz77


actually, didn't anaheim make it to the 2nd round last year? They got beat by Nashville.


Unless I'm wrong and that was the 1st round. Thought it was the 2nd though.

EDIT: Just looked it up. It was the 1st. Carry on.....
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:06 AM ET
yup...totally agree, fitz...and getz is really a moot point because anaheim won't be trading him...

but he will be a free agent next year

- b0s0o1


I think the ducks should be looking to trade getzlaf & perry...
I can't see either of them re-signing
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jul 24 @ 1:08 AM ET
And is bald
- dadeadhead

Truth
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:14 AM ET
actually, didn't anaheim make it to the 2nd round last year? They got beat by Nashville.


Unless I'm wrong and that was the 1st round. Thought it was the 2nd though.

EDIT: Just looked it up. It was the 1st. Carry on.....

- HonkFortheGoose


No worries
With Getzlaf there are just too many unanswered ?s that woul make me nervous
I do think he will bounce back,
But will he be the 80-90point guy again?
That I don't know
How does a guy on a line like that only score 11goals anyways?
He should get at least 20 by accident

If he only comes back to be a 65-70point guy,
How much better is that then what Ennis would do?

Will he re-sign?
I'm thinking prob not... considering how big free agents have cashed in this season,
I don't see any reason he'd wanna miss out on the frenzy next year
And if he did... For how much?
You gotta think 7mil +

And what would we have to give up to get him?

I just can't do it
It'd be a different story if he wasn't coming off such a terrible year & we could work out an extension...

But as it stands... No way
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 24 @ 1:19 AM ET
No worries
With Getzlaf there are just too many unanswered ?s that woul make me nervous
I do think he will bounce back,
But will he be the 80-90point guy again?
That I don't know
How does a guy on a line like that only score 11goals anyways?
He should get at least 20 by accident

If he only comes back to be a 65-70point guy,
How much better is that then what Ennis would do?

Will he re-sign?
I'm thinking prob not... considering how big free agents have cashed in this season,
I don't see any reason he'd wanna miss out on the frenzy next year
And if he did... For how much?
You gotta think 7mil +

And what would we have to give up to get him?

I just can't do it
It'd be a different story if he wasn't coming off such a terrible year & we could work out an extension...

But as it stands... No way

- jdfitz77


honestly, the entire Ducks team had a pretty bad year. That's how he managed to get only 11 goals. He did still have 57 points, so he may not have been scoring goals, but he was contributing.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:31 AM ET
honestly, the entire Ducks team had a pretty bad year. That's how he managed to get only 11 goals. He did still have 57 points, so he may not have been scoring goals, but he was contributing.
- HonkFortheGoose


I suppose that's true...
But I think it'd be really hard not to get assists playing with Perry & Ryan

And as i pointed out, the 11goals was only one of the many concerns I'd have about bringing him here
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 24 @ 1:34 AM ET
I suppose that's true...
But I think it'd be really hard not to get assists playing with Perry & Ryan

And as i pointed out, the 11goals was only one of the many concerns I'd have about bringing him here

- jdfitz77


I would have concerns about him as well, but for the most part, I think the positives outweigh the negatives. I'm not saying I want them to get him, but I'm not saying I don't either.

If anything, this would be the best time to get him. He's coming off of a poor year. It's a contract year. He's going to be out to prove something. If the price was right, I'd do it. Perhaps he needs a change of scenery, just like we were all saying about Roy.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:41 AM ET
I would have concerns about him as well, but for the most part, I think the positives outweigh the negatives. I'm not saying I want them to get him, but I'm not saying I don't either.

If anything, this would be the best time to get him. He's coming off of a poor year. It's a contract year. He's going to be out to prove something. If the price was right, I'd do it. Perhaps he needs a change of scenery, just like we were all saying about Roy.

- HonkFortheGoose


Even if I weren't worried about last year
Would he re-sign?

With what happened this year in free agency,
I can't see any big name not wanting to cash in on the craziness that's sure to happen again
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 24 @ 1:42 AM ET
Even if I weren't worried about last year
Would he re-sign?

With what happened this year in free agency,
I can't see any big name not wanting to cash in on the craziness that's sure to happen again

- jdfitz77


That is true. It would be part of the risk. You just have to figure out if the reward would be worth the risk.
Ducks2012
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 24 @ 1:49 AM ET
Krejci is the player being mentioned to the Bruins, he makes 5.3 mill and Ryan is 5.1 mill, there's your winner. The Ducks want a number 2 center and seems to fit .
- SABRES 89


If Boston offers that Murray better get it done.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:53 AM ET
That is true. It would be part of the risk. You just have to figure out if the reward would be worth the risk.
- HonkFortheGoose


1 year of even a 100point Getzlaf wouldn't be more valuable to me than the next 5-10years of Ennis... Even if Ennis is only a 65point guy...
Not unless we were to win the cup
And IMO, we need to upgrade the defense still before we are legit contenders

I wouldn't mind going after him at the deadline where the cost would be significantly less to get him
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 24 @ 1:55 AM ET
1 year of even a 100point Getzlaf wouldn't be more valuable to me than the next 5-10years of Ennis... Even if Ennis is only a 65point guy...
Not unless we were to win the cup
And IMO, we need to upgrade the defense still before we are legit contenders

I wouldn't mind going after him at the deadline where the cost would be significantly less to get him

- jdfitz77



The cost will be ridiculous at the deadline for him and Perry IMO.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:00 AM ET
The cost will be ridiculous at the deadline for him and Perry IMO.
- dadeadhead


More than it would be now?
That would surprise me for a couple reasons
First, you get him for a shorter period of time
Second, bc of the cap and some teams being out of it, there'd be less suitors involved bidding on him

My guess would be we'd have to give up roster guys now, like Ennis, Stafford, etc...
And at the deadline they'd be more likely to take AHLers & prospects
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 24 @ 2:02 AM ET
1 year of even a 100point Getzlaf wouldn't be more valuable to me than the next 5-10years of Ennis... Even if Ennis is only a 65point guy...
Not unless we were to win the cup
And IMO, we need to upgrade the defense still before we are legit contenders

I wouldn't mind going after him at the deadline where the cost would be significantly less to get him

- jdfitz77


But he would bring something the rest of the team lacks. A Stanley Cup. Not 1 guy on our team has won one. Unless you count Kevyn Adams, who's not on the ice during the games.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 24 @ 2:04 AM ET
More than it would be now?
That would surprise me for a couple reasons
First, you get him for a shorter period of time
Second, bc of the cap and some teams being out of it, there'd be less suitors involved bidding on him

My guess would be we'd have to give up roster guys now, like Ennis, Stafford, etc...
And at the deadline they'd be more likely to take AHLers & prospects

- jdfitz77


It'll be more related to how his season plays out. If he has the same type of season, his price will be much lower than if he has a good season.

That's the part that makes it tough. Some teams are afraid to give up as much as Anaheim would probably want for him because he's not coming off of his best year. But that doesn't mean that he is going to have another bad year.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:14 AM ET
It'll be more related to how his season plays out. If he has the same type of season, his price will be much lower than if he has a good season.

That's the part that makes it tough. Some teams are afraid to give up as much as Anaheim would probably want for him because he's not coming off of his best year. But that doesn't mean that he is going to have another bad year.

- HonkFortheGoose


I'm more afraid he won't re-sign
And it's not like he was the captain of that cup team

We still have holes on defense IMO before we are ready to compete realistically for the cup
So I'm really not all that concerned if we have a cup winner on the roster right now or not
But even if I did agree we needed one...
If we are going to give up a ton to get him,
He's either gotta be signed for a couple years or sign an extension as part of the trade agreement
Otherwise, get me a guy or two like langenbrunner or Arnott...
Someone like that costs way less and is probably a lot more of a leader than getzlaf is anyways
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 24 @ 4:04 AM ET
They no longer have Brendan Ranford. They didn't sign him and he went back into the draft this year and went undrafted. Which kinda surprised me considering he scored 40g 92pts in 69gms
- twistedwrister9

wow, I am shocked that the flyers did not sign him and uven more shocked he went undrafted

sign him for depth in rochester peggy!!!


http://forecaster.thehock...ws/hockey/player.cgi?8393
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 24 @ 4:12 AM ET
wow, I am shocked that the flyers did not sign him and uven more shocked he went undrafted

sign him for depth in rochester peggy!!!

http://forecaster.thehock...ws/hockey/player.cgi?8393

- homiedclown


me too...
There's gotta be more to the story...
Kid has gotten better every year
Weird
I don't see any reason we shouldn't sign him and give him a shot
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 24 @ 4:12 AM ET
But he would bring something the rest of the team lacks. A Stanley Cup. Not 1 guy on our team has won one. Unless you count Kevyn Adams, who's not on the ice during the games.
- HonkFortheGoose

matt ellis played 35 games for the wings the year they won the cup

does that count for anything?
twistedwrister9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Zach Bogosian as Hitman: Agent 47, NY
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 24 @ 5:18 AM ET
wow, I am shocked that the flyers did not sign him and uven more shocked he went undrafted

sign him for depth in rochester peggy!!!


http://forecaster.thehock...ws/hockey/player.cgi?8393

- homiedclown


The Flyers failed to sign 2010 seventh-round draft pick Brendan Ranford prior to a Friday 5 p.m. deadline, and as a result, Ranford will re-enter the draft in 2012. Ranford told Canadian hockey reporter Gregg Drinnan the news after Friday's deadline.

Ranford, 20, turned heads during his 2010-11 season with Kamloops, the year after he was drafted as the 209th overall pick. He scored 44 points in the first 26 games, but he steeply dropped off over the rest of the regular season, posting 42 more points in his remaining 40 games. Not awful, mind you, but not the torrid pace he saw early that season.

Ranford posted 92 points in 69 games this past season.



Got this from broadstreethockey.com. Flyer fans were kinda pissed about it from the comments I read. Some mentioned that there had been some conditioning issues. It does make you wonder why nobody took a flyer on him in this years draft. As far as the article goes, how dare he drop off from almost 2pts a game to a little over a point a game in the second half

...sounds like a good reason not to sign him
buffalo 1
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:22 AM ET
Poor Columbus,poor poor Columbus.Sounds like Nash s agent was designing this deal not Howson.On Nashville what do you do ?Over pay for one player when your team has many holes now or walk away.We took the panic rout with Vanek after losing both Briere and Drury but has it made a difference for this team ? Something to think about as Nashville now ponders its decission.Im still not in the Ryan omg one way or another camp and completely off the Doan ride now.Hes either going to a big market team or staying in Arizona.
qcstudios
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst , NY
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 24 @ 8:30 AM ET
you guys...im worried....


its been 15 hours, and theres not a new Garth blog about Doan/Ryan....
Rally_Shots
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jul 24 @ 8:39 AM ET
More than it would be now?
That would surprise me for a couple reasons
First, you get him for a shorter period of time
Second, bc of the cap and some teams being out of it, there'd be less suitors involved bidding on him

My guess would be we'd have to give up roster guys now, like Ennis, Stafford, etc...
And at the deadline they'd be more likely to take AHLers & prospects

- jdfitz77


Someone gave up a first round pick for Gaustad at the deadline. Now imagine what Getzlaf would fetch.
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