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moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 22 @ 8:52 PM ET
Absolutely not. He's a complete hack.

Although he did write a good article in today's Sunday Inquirer.

- MJL


I like carchidi.... but he doesn't have a lot of 'inside' info IMO. I don't think he's a hack.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 22 @ 8:53 PM ET
right, Bryz is by no means goofy
- vejim


That was kind of my point.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 22 @ 8:53 PM ET
If that was true, a trade would have already been made. The Offer Sheet was sent because an honest deal couldn't be brokered between the two parties, and reached a compromise where both sides are happy with the outcome. So who is going to cater to the other side and bite the bullet? Who is going to win out? Are the Flyers going to be willing to pay more then the want to? If they're willing to do so and meet Poile's price. Why didn't they do so before sending the Offer Sheet?
Or is Poile going to give in and take less then he wants in return for Weber?
Something has to break here, if a deal is going to be made. One side or the other has to give in.

- MJL


Reports are a little different on what happened on the last day.

Some reports suggest the Preds were close to trading Weber to another team so the Flyers dropped the mega offer sheet to stop another deal.

Other reports say the Preds began to talk to other teams after Holmgren told them an offer sheet was coming.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Both sides know what Weber is worth. You cannot abuse or bluff each other. If Holmgren offends Nashville owners or Poile they will match out of self interest and spite. But if Holmgren is wise and generous, he makes his team the leading Cup contender.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 22 @ 8:55 PM ET
I like carchidi.... but he doesn't have a lot of 'inside' info IMO. I don't think he's a hack.
- moylander


Meh. Not a fan. I find him unprofessional and not especially knowledgeable about the sport. I think he's more guilty of the TMZ stuff than anyone.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 22 @ 8:55 PM ET
Reports are a little different on what happened on the last day.

Some reports suggest the Preds were close to trading Weber to another team so the Flyers dropped the mega offer sheet to stop another deal.

Other reports say the Preds began to talk to other teams after Holmgren told them an offer sheet was coming.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Both sides know what Weber is worth. You cannot abuse or bluff each other. If Holmgren offends Nashville owners or Poile they will match out of self interest and spite. But if Holmgren is wise and generous, he makes his team the leading Cup contender.

- spatso


Stand Pat. Let them match.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 22 @ 8:55 PM ET
This is how I'm going to feel Thursday morning when we get weber


GIFSoup
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 8:55 PM ET
Reports are a little different on what happened on the last day.

Some reports suggest the Preds were close to trading Weber to another team so the Flyers dropped the mega offer sheet to stop another deal.

Other reports say the Preds began to talk to other teams after Holmgren told them an offer sheet was coming.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Both sides know what Weber is worth. You cannot abuse or bluff each other. If Holmgren offends Nashville owners or Poile they will match out of self interest and spite. But if Holmgren is wise and generous, he makes his team the leading Cup contender.

- spatso


Absolutely you can bluff and abuse each other. What do you think the Offer Sheet is all about. It's about abusing and bullying Nashville.

I keep making the same statement, which you haven't responded to.

If Holmgren was willing to be wise and generous, why didn't he just do so and up his offer to get Weber, and meet Nashville's asking price, before going the Offer Sheet route?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 22 @ 8:56 PM ET
Absolutely you can bluff and abuse each other. What do you think the Offer Sheet is all about. It's about abusing and bullying Nashville.
- MJL


I agree. Bully them Homer.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 22 @ 8:57 PM ET
Meh. Not a fan. I find him unprofessional and not especially knowledgeable about the sport. I think he's more guilty of the TMZ stuff than anyone.
- Jsaquella

This.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 22 @ 8:58 PM ET
Reports are a little different on what happened on the last day.

Some reports suggest the Preds were close to trading Weber to another team so the Flyers dropped the mega offer sheet to stop another deal.

Other reports say the Preds began to talk to other teams after Holmgren told them an offer sheet was coming.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Both sides know what Weber is worth. You cannot abuse or bluff each other. If Holmgren offends Nashville owners or Poile they will match out of self interest and spite. But if Holmgren is wise and generous, he makes his team the leading Cup contender.

- spatso


i dont think he will insult them, but he will and always has had a bottom line when it came to this off season..NOT TRADING ANYONE NAMED COURTIER OR SCHENN..That being said I do think a trade is worked out and who knows maybe they take the picks and turn it into something tangible that the fans can get behind
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 22 @ 8:58 PM ET
Meh. Not a fan. I find him unprofessional and not especially knowledgeable about the sport. I think he's more guilty of the TMZ stuff than anyone.
- Jsaquella



Who do you think is good then? Seravelli? Leed? Eskin? Panaccio?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 8:59 PM ET
i dont think he will insult them, but he will and always has had a bottom line when it came to this off season..NOT TRADING ANYONE NAMED COURTIER OR SCHENN..That being said I do think a trade is worked out and who knows maybe they take the picks and turn it into something tangible that the fans can get behind
- nonpoint22


I agree. Holmgren is willing to give them a solid package in return for them not matching.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 22 @ 8:59 PM ET
I like carchidi.... but he doesn't have a lot of 'inside' info IMO. I don't think he's a hack.
- moylander


yeah but he doesnt claim to be like some sports reporters in this town...looking at you Seravalli
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 9:00 PM ET
Who do you think is good then? Seravelli? Leed? Eskin? Panaccio?
- moylander


One name and one name only. Bill Meltzer. None of the local writers that cover the team are any good.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 22 @ 9:00 PM ET
One name and one name only. Bill Meltzer. None of the local writers that cover the team are any good.
- MJL


I think Ike Reese knows a lot about the Flyers (not a writer).
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 22 @ 9:01 PM ET
I think Ike Reese knows a lot about the Flyers.
- stveshdy

Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jul 22 @ 9:01 PM ET
They've talked one time since Weber signed the offer sheet so either they're going to match or if they dont i guess will cross that bridge when we get there
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 22 @ 9:01 PM ET
Who do you think is good then? Seravelli? Leed? Eskin? Panaccio?
- moylander

nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 22 @ 9:02 PM ET
Meh. Not a fan. I find him unprofessional and not especially knowledgeable about the sport. I think he's more guilty of the TMZ stuff than anyone.
- Jsaquella


Seams pretty eve keeled to me...never makes any crazy declarations...he is asked his opinion and gives it and doesnt present it as fact....looking at you pannotch
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 22 @ 9:03 PM ET
I think Ike Reese knows a lot about the Flyers (not a writer).
- stveshdy

moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 22 @ 9:03 PM ET
One name and one name only. Bill Meltzer. None of the local writers that cover the team are any good.
- MJL


I think bill is great. More knowledgeable and less biased than anyone I can think of. Comparing everyone to bill pretty much means everyone else sucks.... so I see where you are coming from.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 22 @ 9:03 PM ET
One name and one name only. Bill Meltzer. None of the local writers that cover the team are any good.
- MJL

bang on
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 22 @ 9:04 PM ET
One name and one name only. Bill Meltzer. None of the local writers that cover the team are any good.
- MJL



I can agree with that...When you think about wow they do suck...and if I have to listen to Lisa Hillary anymore I am going to stick a fork in my ear...You dont work in Washington anymore sweetheart stop comparing everyone to Ovie please!!!! for the love of god
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 22 @ 9:06 PM ET
I think bill is great. More knowledgeable and less biased than anyone I can think of. Comparing everyone to bill pretty much means everyone else sucks.... so I see where you are coming from.
- moylander

you hit that target like this sniper
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 22 @ 9:07 PM ET
Who do you think is good then? Seravelli? Leed? Eskin? Panaccio?
- moylander


Eskin does a good job at getting info, but he doesn't know the sport that well.

Meltzer is the one I read first, although I read most of the others, too. I think Leed does a good job for a guy that isn't a regular beat guy. Dave Issac does a good job too.
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