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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 6:40 PM ET
because of the potential leverage gained by the offer sheet.. or just in general, in terms of player value?

would you make that trade if it was under normal circumstances (no offer sheet out there)?

- Crimsoninja


I think potential is really the key word here. And that leverage can be feigned, if that is the correct word, by how each GM plays it.

Under normal circumstances, that's a very good deal for the Flyers. And one which I would definitely make. However under these circumstances, I would not. However I realize that not doing so could cost them Weber.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 22 @ 6:41 PM ET
Hockeyy Insiderr said we did yesterday J/K

- nonpoint22

I thought it was a month ago #confirmed??
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 22 @ 6:42 PM ET
I thought it was a month ago #confirmed??
- bigmookalookie

He did report that Homer and Poile talked. Big shocker there
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
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Jul 22 @ 6:42 PM ET
I think potential leverage is really the key word here. And that leverage can be feigned, if that is the correct word, by how each GM plays it.

Under normal circumstances, that's a very good deal for the Flyers. And one which I would definitely make. However under these circumstances, I would not. However I realize that not doing so could cost them Weber.

- MJL

ok gotcha
and i agree

the amount of bluffing - or even perceived bluffing haha - is crazy right now. i dont envy either of these GMs at the moment. must be intense.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 6:43 PM ET
Well maybe he would but as a total last resort. I hope he can play the rest of the hand he dealt and minimize the trade back. Give something fair-ish that puts a band aid on the wounds of the fans (which will need stitches and staples) and marginally mollifies the league so that we can get out of dodge with our prize in hand.
- FlyersFirst


I'm with you on that. But as in Poker, you can't be afraid to lose if your going to bluff.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 22 @ 6:43 PM ET
I'm with you on that. But as in Poker, you can't be afraid to lose if your going to bluff.
- MJL

DO you think a decision wasn't made today because it was Sunday or is that irrelevant?
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 22 @ 6:43 PM ET
because of the potential leverage gained by the offer sheet.. or just in general, in terms of player value?

would you make that trade if it was under normal circumstances (no offer sheet out there)?

- Crimsoninja


You are not asking me, but I would in a circumstance without our current OS leverage (just not cooter or g). Now, I think coburn and the schenns should be off the table. I wish that jake was too, but everyone here has him packed for the music city.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 6:44 PM ET
ok gotcha
and i agree

the amount of bluffing - or even perceived bluffing haha - is crazy right now. i dont envy either of these GMs at the moment. must be intense.

- Crimsoninja


Absolutely. Who is going to flinch first. That's what it'll come down to if a trade is made. I'd sure like to know what the best offer Holmgren gave them was. But there hasn't been any leaks on that as far as I know.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 22 @ 6:44 PM ET
DO you think a decision wasn't made today because it was Sunday or is that irrelevant?
- JoeRussomanno

it is an unwritten rule among NHL GMs to keep holy the Sabbath, Joe
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 22 @ 6:45 PM ET
I think potential is really the key word here. And that leverage can be feigned, if that is the correct word, by how each GM plays it.

Under normal circumstances, that's a very good deal for the Flyers. And one which I would definitely make. However under these circumstances, I would not. However I realize that not doing so could cost them Weber.

- MJL



I am a slower Typer than you on my phone but i totally agree.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 6:45 PM ET
DO you think a decision wasn't made today because it was Sunday or is that irrelevant?
- JoeRussomanno


I don't think the day matters. If Nashville's intent is to make a trade. I can see that going the distance.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 22 @ 6:45 PM ET
He did report that Homer and Poile talked. Big shocker there
- JoeRussomanno

yea it went like this
Polie: Well guess you were not joking around with the offer sheet
Homer: Yup I know, How do my nuts taste
Polie: (frank) ME
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 22 @ 6:46 PM ET
it is an unwritten rule among NHL GMs to keep holy the Sabbath, Joe
- Crimsoninja

feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 22 @ 6:47 PM ET
it is an unwritten rule among NHL GMs to keep holy the Sabbath, Joe
- Crimsoninja

Poile sounds like "mohel", so I figure he is Jewish. Their holy day is Saturday, so I'm guessing something could go down tonight.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 22 @ 6:47 PM ET
yea it went like this
Polie: Well guess you were not joking around with the offer sheet
Homer: Yup I know, How do my nuts taste
Polie: (frank) ME

- bigmookalookie

I think Poile has had enough of Homer's big market nuts.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
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Jul 22 @ 6:48 PM ET
it is an unwritten rule among NHL GMs to keep holy the Sabbath, Joe
- Crimsoninja

Also Homer was at a picnic enjoy delicious sandwiches and I heard the desserts were de-freakin-vine
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
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Jul 22 @ 6:48 PM ET
yea it went like this
Polie: Well guess you were not joking around with the offer sheet
Homer: Yup I know, How do my nuts taste
Polie: (frank) ME

- bigmookalookie

my point was "no poopty duh they've been talking on the phone" what do these insiderrs take their followers for stupid?... oh wait nvm
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 22 @ 6:48 PM ET

- JoeRussomanno




but honestly, you need your gif-license revoked
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 22 @ 6:48 PM ET
I think Poile has had enough of Homer's big market nuts.
- feelingkettle

Troux X2
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 22 @ 6:49 PM ET
Poile sounds like "mohel", so I figure he is Jewish. Their holy day is Saturday, so I'm guessing something could go down tonight.
- feelingkettle

I say if the Flyers get Weber that day should be a holiday... just saying.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 22 @ 6:49 PM ET



but honestly, you need your gif-license revoked

- Crimsoninja

well I asked a dum question you gave a smart answer so I had to post a dumb gif, peace on the streets?
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 22 @ 6:50 PM ET
Troux X2
- bigmookalookie

I believe you mean troux X toux
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
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Jul 22 @ 6:50 PM ET
my point was "no poopty duh they've been talking on the phone" what do these insiderrs take their followers for stupid?... oh wait nvm
- JoeRussomanno

I thought they were Harvard scholars, oh wait (frank) that im yhinking of something eles
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 22 @ 6:51 PM ET
I thought they were Harvard scholars, oh wait (frank) that im yhinking of something eles
- bigmookalookie

what is yhinking is that like... oh nvm
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 22 @ 6:52 PM ET
Poile sounds like "mohel", so I figure he is Jewish. Their holy day is Saturday, so I'm guessing something could go down tonight.
- feelingkettle

that's something ist
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