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Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:08 PM ET
Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr
FYI for those who misunderstood my tweet by conference call I mean private between Poile and Holmgren and upper management #Preds #Flyers

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr
This is not a public press conference with the media. It's a conference call between the upper management members of #Preds and #Flyers.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jul 22 @ 12:08 PM ET
Another reason why a deal for players going back to Nashville makes a lot of sense for both sides.
- MJL


I know a lot of people are speculating about Vorachek (sp?) and Read, and a couple of first going to the Preds...but, I feel like it's got to be a lot more painful than that for the Flyers.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:08 PM ET
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It will. The longer it goes, the more I think a deal is trying to be worked out.

- MJL


I've stated many of times I prefer the Flyers stand pat but if they do decide to make a deal I just hope they don't give up too much b/c I still feel like they have an advantage. The fact that Nashville would be willing to make a trade kind of gives their hand IMO, that they can't afford Weber short-term or long-term.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 22 @ 12:09 PM ET
Its only a conference call. Not a press release. Probably to inform of a decision or work out more details for a trade.
- moylander


i've heard that homer's a great cook. maybe it's for a recipe
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 22 @ 12:09 PM ET
why would it be a conference call with Holmgren if there wasn't some kind of deal made. If the Preds were matching wouldn't it just be a conference call with Poile?
- Dkos


Agreed....Can they announce a deal before the seven days are up?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 12:09 PM ET
Possible, but so many variables. Percentage roll back, amnesty or grandfathering, etc. I wonder if teams will have to shed players to become cap compliant. That would be a way to get some bargains, if you're Nashville.
- TheGreat28


Grandfathering won't change anything for this upcoming Season. An Amnesty isn't happening. There could be some players available late.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:09 PM ET
game of chicken at this point unless they're negotiating
- isaiah520


This thing can go either way at this point. I still like the Flyers chances of landing Weber.

Flyers 80%
Preds 20%

Said those numbers when it started and I'm sticking to it.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
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Jul 22 @ 12:09 PM ET
Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr
FYI for those who misunderstood my tweet by conference call I mean private between Poile and Holmgren and upper management #Preds #Flyers

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr
This is not a public press conference with the media. It's a conference call between the upper management members of #Preds and #Flyers.

- Flyers2821


how is a conference call between Flyers/Preds management news? If they weren't talking it might be news
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:09 PM ET
I know a lot of people are speculating about Vorachek (sp?) and Read, and a couple of first going to the Preds...but, I feel like it's got to be a lot more painful than that for the Flyers.
- Dkos



The only reason the Flyers make a deal with the Predators on the side is to help them out cap wise to allow them to turn down matching the deal. Not to convince them or to compensate Nashville any further.

For that reason, I think it ends up being less painful than everyone expects.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:11 PM ET
how is a conference call between Flyers/Preds management news? If they weren't talking it might be news
- Dkos


Well te fact that Poille called for a conference call today with all the management rather than just picking up the phone and calling Holmgren... is news in my book.

If this is true of course
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 22 @ 12:11 PM ET
I've stated many of times I prefer the Flyers stand pat but if they do decide to make a deal I just hope they don't give up too much b/c I still feel like they have an advantage. The fact that Nashville would be willing to make a trade kind of gives their hand IMO, that they can't afford Weber short-term or long-term.
- stveshdy



I agree whole heartily and why stretch your teams finances for a player who through his agent has pretty much said I want out now that Suter is gone
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 12:11 PM ET
I've stated many of times I prefer the Flyers stand pat but if they do decide to make a deal I just hope they don't give up too much b/c I still feel like they have an advantage. The fact that Nashville would be willing to make a trade kind of gives their hand IMO, that they can't afford Weber short-term or long-term.
- stveshdy


I think it means that they feel it is the best approach. They could also match if they feel they aren't getting the deal they want for Weber.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 22 @ 12:11 PM ET
This thing can go either way at this point. I still like the Flyers chances of landing Weber.

Flyers 80%
Preds 20%

Said those numbers when it started and I'm sticking to it.

- stveshdy

my first impression wasn't so much odds as much as thinking it would take a trade to get it done. I want this plyr bad for the flyers, so the suspense is killer...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 12:12 PM ET
Agreed....Can they announce a deal before the seven days are up?
- nonpoint22



Yes.
Dkos
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
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Jul 22 @ 12:12 PM ET
The only reason the Flyers make a deal with the Predators on the side is to help them out cap wise to allow them to turn down matching the deal. Not to convince them or to compensate Nashville any further.

For that reason, I think it ends up being less painful than everyone expects.

- Flyers2821


I think the Flyers are going to have to pay for making such an unpopular move
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 22 @ 12:13 PM ET
how is a conference call between Flyers/Preds management news? If they weren't talking it might be news
- Dkos


From what I read somewhere - they haven't been talking.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:13 PM ET
how is a conference call between Flyers/Preds management news? If they weren't talking it might be news
- Dkos


There is no way that dude knows about a PRIVATE call between Poile and Holmgren. More than likely, they've been having lots of calls over the last couple of days.

In other news, rain is wet.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:14 PM ET
I think it means that they feel it is the best approach. They could also match if they feel they aren't getting the deal they want for Weber.
- MJL


Anything is possible. The fact their willing to trade tells me they can't afford to give Weber all that money and still have flexibility to be competitive in the future, IMO.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 12:14 PM ET
Anything is possible. The fact their willing to trade tells me they can't afford to give Weber all that money and still have flexibility to be competitive in the future, IMO.
- stveshdy


That is certainly a factor in what decision the Preds make.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 12:15 PM ET
There is no way that dude knows about a PRIVATE call between Poile and Holmgren. More than likely, they've been having lots of calls over the last couple of days.

In other news, rain is wet.

- TheGreat28



DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:15 PM ET
Would it be possible for the Preds to match, suffer the extreme signing bonus, and then trade him year after next? Hopefully getting closer to market value in return rather than having to take whatever the Flyers are willing to give?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:15 PM ET
my first impression wasn't so much odds as much as thinking it would take a trade to get it done. I want this plyr bad for the flyers, so the suspense is killer...
- isaiah520


I love Weber but never let emotions get in the way during negotiations.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 22 @ 12:15 PM ET
Well te fact that Poille called for a conference call today with all the management rather than just picking up the phone and calling Holmgren... is news in my book.

If this is true of course

- Flyers2821



The fact that not one legitimate source has called it true makes me believe that it is not...Dreger or somebody for TSN would be all over this if it were true
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:16 PM ET
Grandfathering won't change anything for this upcoming Season. An Amnesty isn't happening. There could be some players available late.
- MJL


After the Weber thing is over, and the mandatory 2 or 3 weeks of speculation on other moves, line combinations, etc., it will be fun to debate what is happening in the CBA discussions and what will/won't make it into the final agreement.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:16 PM ET
That is certainly a factor in what decision the Preds make.
- MJL


Without question. I just like to see this come to a head one way or another today.
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