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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 21 @ 12:37 PM ET
But how many cups do the nucks have?
- Leaffan8113


Didn't stop your captain running out of that franchise as fast as he could. He couldn't tear that blue rag off his back fast enough.

Sorry, what was your question again?
anthj99
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 21 @ 12:37 PM ET
The CFL is a Canadian league that has 8 teams better than the Buffalo Bills.

Try google next time .

- VANTEL


Google tells me that nobody gives a crap about the CFL.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 21 @ 12:37 PM ET
I know they keep bragging about winning a cup in the ancient league played out East .

The fact that they ask us how many cups did we win in a league we didn'play in shows the mentality we have to deal with.

- VANTEL

its really starting to get pathetic. Listening to them try to justify their garbage is like watching a mason Raymond highlight video. They go like crazy but never get anywhere
lightz39
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Fernie, BC
Joined: 05.23.2011

Jul 21 @ 12:37 PM ET
Stopped reading at the Columbus trade. You need them to do more for you? You realize you are giving them an albatross right? What are you going to do for them is more like it. Don't act like you'll get something worth while for Lu.
howamidointhis
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jul 21 @ 12:39 PM ET
Same amount as Leafs and Buffalo
- VANTEL


5!

Oh but you guys got the better team right???
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 12:39 PM ET
im sorry man but this is ridiculous. typical ian, your blogs are great and i applaud how you can see it from other than a vancouver-driven perspective. im not a huge fan of offer sheets, but i mean they are what they are so teams might as well use them. however, this upfront bonus stuff is just so ridiculous. its one thing if youre doing it for a team's own superstars, but if this kind of thing isnt corrected, teams without huge pockets are just going to consistently have their stars plucked right out from under their noses. they might as well do away with the whole concept of RFA in the first place, because it offers relatively no protection anymore with the advent of these "bonuses". these bonuses shouldnt even be allowed. they are popular in the NFL, which is understandable, because contracts are not guaranteed.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:39 PM ET
Google tells me that nobody gives a crap about the CFL.
- anthj99



And everyone cares about the Bills

They actually brought that crap team to Toronto and had to give I think 40 000 tickets away for free to make it look like anyone cared .

This is like shooting fish in a barrel
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:40 PM ET
5!

Oh but you guys got the better team right???

- howamidointhis



Now we do
Leaffan8113
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Quit listening to Dreger. He', ON
Joined: 01.10.2012

Jul 21 @ 12:42 PM ET
Didn't stop your captain running out of that franchise as fast as he could. He couldn't tear that blue rag off his back fast enough.

Sorry, what was your question again?

- bloatedmosquito

he was there for 13 years
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:43 PM ET
im sorry man but this is ridiculous. typical ian, your blogs are great and i applaud how you can see it from other than a vancouver-driven perspective. im not a huge fan of offer sheets, but i mean they are what they are so teams might as well use them. however, this upfront bonus stuff is just so ridiculous. its one thing if youre doing it for a team's own superstars, but if this kind of thing isnt corrected, teams without huge pockets are just going to consistently have their stars plucked right out from under their noses. they might as well do away with the whole concept of RFA in the first place, because it offers relatively no protection anymore with the advent of these "bonuses". these bonuses shouldnt even be allowed. they are popular in the NFL, which is understandable, because contracts are not guaranteed.
- stayinthefnnet



Offer sheets are part of the game. GMs need to take care of business before they become RFAs . If they don't then offer sheets are valid.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
Google tells me that nobody gives a crap about the CFL.
- anthj99



LINK ?
Canuckfan2006
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.24.2006

Jul 21 @ 12:45 PM ET
im sorry man but this is ridiculous. typical ian, your blogs are great and i applaud how you can see it from other than a vancouver-driven perspective. im not a huge fan of offer sheets, but i mean they are what they are so teams might as well use them. however, this upfront bonus stuff is just so ridiculous. its one thing if youre doing it for a team's own superstars, but if this kind of thing isnt corrected, teams without huge pockets are just going to consistently have their stars plucked right out from under their noses. they might as well do away with the whole concept of RFA in the first place, because it offers relatively no protection anymore with the advent of these "bonuses". these bonuses shouldnt even be allowed. they are popular in the NFL, which is understandable, because contracts are not guaranteed.
- stayinthefnnet


....agrees with the offer sheets..its still the rich teams get to do this..cause they can afford too...The Shea Weber..Suter/Parise are aweful.......teams cry cause of money ,yet they do this......outlandish signing bonuses...etc...100 mill for one player...OUCH!! its business,yeah...but Greed as well
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:49 PM ET
Carlson would be a great deal. RHD would give a lot of options.

You would also have to move Edler and Ballard .Edler could be the center piece for our top 6 forward trade. Edler Luongo for Sharpe Leddy

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Kesler Sharp
Jensen Lappiere Hansen
Volpatti/Pinizzotto Manny Kassian

Hamhuis Bieksa
Garrison Carlson
Leddy Tanev

Schneider
Ellis

Offer sheet him Carlson

- VANTEL


Agreed. Carlson should be the only player Gillis should think about offer sheeting. No way would Galiadri let Aquilini take Benn. Kane would be nice but has some character issues and he's Winnipegs franchise.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 12:49 PM ET
Offer sheets are part of the game. GMs need to take care of business before they become RFAs . If they don't then offer sheets are valid.
- VANTEL

i dont view offer sheets as the devil, but this whole well in a calender year you will receive 2 payments of 10 million crap with a base salary of one million for 40 percent of the deal. i dont exactly like those kinds of deals in the first place, but when used by a large market team to carefully construct a sheet so as the other team has no financial means to match i dont like. why bother having a salary cap anyway to level the playing field if it can be so easily manipulated?
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 21 @ 12:51 PM ET
Huh? What is the CFL?
- anthj99

Cfl is a league with 8 teams or less. It is a league that doesn't include the best players from all over the world. A league where it is impossible not to win a few championships. It is the only league left ff its kind. There used to be others
rhornsburg
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.11.2011

Jul 21 @ 12:52 PM ET
Signing bonus is not salary.
- A_SteamingLombardi


My poor wording aside, the contract structure would still be as I laid out.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:53 PM ET
Agreed. Carlson should be the only player Gillis should think about offer sheeting. No way would Galiadri let Aquilini take Benn. Kane would be nice but has some character issues and he's Winnipegs franchise.
- Boinker



Agreed and it opens up 8.5 mil because we couldn't resign Edler at 5 mil + next year as some peple suggest. So trading Ballard for picks and trading Edler would be ok with me if we got Carlson
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 21 @ 12:57 PM ET
Agreed and it opens up 8.5 mil because we couldn't resign Edler at 5 mil + next year as some peple suggest. So trading Ballard for picks and trading Edler would be ok with me if we got Carlson
- VANTEL

I have been campaigning for Carlson for quite some time
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:57 PM ET
i dont view offer sheets as the devil, but this whole well in a calender year you will receive 2 payments of 10 million crap with a base salary of one million for 40 percent of the deal. i dont exactly like those kinds of deals in the first place, but when used by a large market team to carefully construct a sheet so as the other team has no financial means to match i dont like. why bother having a salary cap anyway to level the playing field if it can be so easily manipulated?
- stayinthefnnet



I think it was a brilliant plan by the Flyers and sort of jealous it wasn't us that did it. The fact is Poille should have had his franchise player locked up long before he was offer sheet prone. Poille also failed on Suter and should have locked him up or moved him by last years TDL.The NHL offers out awards for managers of the year . They should offer Poille an award for worse manager of the year.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 21 @ 12:58 PM ET
he was there for 13 years
- Leaffan8113


Must of felt like 25. Poor bastard.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:58 PM ET
I have been campaigning for Carlson for quite some time
- Bieksa#3


I know you have KB3
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jul 21 @ 1:00 PM ET
read my location.
- Leaffan8113


awww shucks. I'm glad I left an impression.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jul 21 @ 1:03 PM ET
Agreed and it opens up 8.5 mil because we couldn't resign Edler at 5 mil + next year as some peple suggest. So trading Ballard for picks and trading Edler would be ok with me if we got Carlson
- VANTEL


How much would be to much for Washington. Also, How much is to much for the Canucks? I'm thinking it'd have to be 6+ for Washington to not match and is that to much for the Canucks? Given the amount of discounts currently on the team?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 21 @ 1:03 PM ET
Haven't seen the two trolls for a while now .Michah must have woke up
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 21 @ 1:04 PM ET
awww shucks. I'm glad I left an impression.
- Boinker

Boinker u seem to be/or think you are the Schroader pro. What is he like on faceoff%
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