Or even worse...they match Weber, but we don't match Voracek...they might have trouble affording that...I know cap wise they are ok, but cash wise.
- section32

It's rough for them. I still think it's 50-50, but who knows what machinations are shaking out.

Pretty sure Poile follows the same pattern to the deadline, no public comment, he knows that Holmgren is frozen in terms of other options until Poile makes his decision.

My guess is Poile would rather do the deal if he gets the right pieces back. Holmgren will have to decide if he includes either Couturier or Schenn. Nashville has always wanted a #1 center, if either of those guys are offered Poile can sell the deal. If not they match.
- spatso

Fine, then match. Flyers went this route because they refuse to trade either one of them. Preds can't match, if they could, why would they have frantically tried to trade Weber once they got wind of an offer sheet? Because they can't. Fact.

I don't agree Coburn can be easily replaced. I think he is greatly under appreciated by Flyers fans. At $4.5 mill per year for the next 4 seasons, he is an extremely valuable asset to the Flyers for the length of that contract.
- Flyers2821

coburn is our best dman and certainly the greatest value as well.

coburn is our best dman and certainly the greatest value as well.
- isaiah520

He is probably banging his head against the wall for signing that contract prior to hitting the madness of free agency this year. He would have easily fetched a bigger deal than Carle got.

Giroux is the greatest value. Paying a superstar virtually pennies.

Fine, then match. Flyers went this route because they refuse to trade either one of them. Preds can't match, if they could, why would they have frantically tried to trade Weber once they got wind of an offer sheet? Because they can't. Fact.
- Flyers1218

if reports are to be believed, poile wanted both.

Nashville should match the Weber offer sheet, and then significantly raise ticket prices. How would the fans like that?
- PLindbergh31

They don't have to raise ticket prices.

And if they lose Weber, they can save money on printing tickets. Because they will need a lot less of them.

I don't agree Coburn can be easily replaced. I think he is greatly under appreciated by Flyers fans. At $4.5 mill per year for the next 4 seasons, he is an extremely valuable asset to the Flyers for the length of that contract.
- Flyers2821

Coburn can be easily replaced. By Shea Weber. Coburn's a damned good defensive defenseman, but Weber replaces him. I'd rather lose Meszaros than Coburn, but Weber replaces any defenseman in a potential trade

Fine, then match. Flyers went this route because they refuse to trade either one of them. Preds can't match, if they could, why would they have frantically tried to trade Weber once they got wind of an offer sheet? Because they can't. Fact.
- Flyers1218

Hope you are right. If Nashville matches there is going to be a ton of disappointed fans. I'm hoping Doan doesn't make any decision until this Weber situation unfolds.

Nashville matching, and Doan landing in Pittsburgh, or with the Rags would be yet another kick to the nads.

It would be unwise to minimize the 2 firsts. When your a team that is always up against the Cap. Having that top talent coming in is extremely important. No way in hell do I trade Couturier, or B Schenn for that matter. I don't think they have to if it comes to that.
- MJL

Well firsts are going back regardless if the Flyers are getting Weber. Them not meaning much was in response to this deal "blowing up the team" in its current state. Of course they matter for the reasons stated.

And of course I'd rather not give up one of those two players... but I think I may if it was absolutely necessary. If we differ there, it is what it is.

They don't have to raise ticket prices.

And if they lose Weber, they can save money on printing tickets. Because they will need a lot less of them.
- MJL

Oh ok. When franchises take on big contracts they never raise ticket prices. What was I thinking.

I don't agree Coburn can be easily replaced. I think he is greatly under appreciated by Flyers fans. At $4.5 mill per year for the next 4 seasons, he is an extremely valuable asset to the Flyers for the length of that contract.
- Flyers2821

Didn't say he could be easily replaced. But 6.3M definitely gives you the resources to find a replacement. He is a valuable asset, no doubt. But to get Weber, you move him.

It's rough for them. I still think it's 50-50, but who knows what machinations are shaking out.
- Jsaquella

The more I think about it, the more I am leaning to giving up Coots as a last resort in return for a few of those pics. Although they need D now and a Schenn x 2 would also work.

Do you think there is any truth to the rumor that Doan is in town?

Oh ok. When franchises take on big contracts they never raise ticket prices. What was I thinking.
- PLindbergh31

Didn't come close to saying that franchises never raise ticket prices.

Coburn can be easily replaced. By Shea Weber. Coburn's a damned good defensive defenseman, but Weber replaces him. I'd rather lose Meszaros than Coburn, but Weber replaces any defenseman in a potential trade
- Jsaquella

Well obviously. But I was responding to a comment that I am pretty sure was implying that Coburn could easily be replaced down the road. Which i do not agree about at all. If it took Coburn in the deal to get Weber, that is fine. And clearly Weber replaces anything Coburn could do and more.

He is probably banging his head against the wall for signing that contract prior to hitting the madness of free agency this year. He would have easily fetched a bigger deal than Carle got.
- Flyers2821

I think coby is a guy who wanted stability. he's still developing and will likely cash in at the end of this deal.

Didn't say he could be easily replaced. But 6.3M definitely gives you the resources to find a replacement. He is a valuable asset, no doubt. But to get Weber, you move him.
- MJL

I agree, to get Weber I wouldn't hesitate to include him.

Oh ok. When franchises take on big contracts they never raise ticket prices. What was I thinking.
- PLindbergh31

Raising ticket prices in a market where you are trying to grow the fan base is going to kill that

Didn't come close to saying that franchises never raise ticket prices.
- MJL

If Nashville has to pay 27 million dollars to Weber in the next calendar year, how are they going to make the money back?

Fine, then match. Flyers went this route because they refuse to trade either one of them. Preds can't match, if they could, why would they have frantically tried to trade Weber once they got wind of an offer sheet? Because they can't. Fact.
- Flyers1218

They didn't frantically try to trade Weber. If they were frantic about trading Weber, he'd already be a Flyer. They absolutely can match. Whether they decide to do so or not, is a different story

Poile is a goof GM. He will do what is necessary to make his team better. Weber is a stud, plain and simple. Many of us thought we were in rebuild once we traded our two stars a year ago. Perhaps poile told homer to put the os in. Gave homer a week to decide on his stance of not including 10 or 14 in any trade. If he didn't, they would match. If he did, they wouldn't. Nashville can afford the contract. We could have this all wrong.

If Nashville has to pay 27 million dollars to Weber in the next calendar year, how are they going to make the money back?
- PLindbergh31

Ticket sales are the only source of income for a team?

Coburn can be easily replaced. By Shea Weber. Coburn's a damned good defensive defenseman, but Weber replaces him. I'd rather lose Meszaros than Coburn, but Weber replaces any defenseman in a potential trade
- Jsaquella

coby out of the picture along with carle gives us a pretty slow crew back there.

Raising ticket prices in a market where you are trying to grow the fan base is going to kill that
- Philly1980

Well the options are kind of limited for Nashville to produce revenue to subsidize the fact they are going to have to shell out 27 million to Weber in under a year.

What do you propose their plan is? To match the offer sheet and continue to lose more money?

Ticket sales are the only source of income for a team?
- MJL

Of course not. But as the reports indicate Nashville made 26 million in ticket revenue last year, if they match the Weber offer sheet they are going to have 100+% of ticket revenue paid out to one guy in 2013? In what world does that make sense?

So Doans visiting eh? Well thats fantastic, it was getting quiet around here.