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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 21 @ 7:14 PM ET
I'm ok if preds don't match, preds match and get the picks. Not happy if the Flyers go more thn Voracek. meszaros and a 1sr rd pick.
- jstross


I would be OK with Voracek, Meszaros and 2 1sts. I look at it like this, if there was no offer sheet, would Voracek, Meszaros & 2 firsts have been acceptable in a trade for Weber? I think a lot of folks would say yes.

Hell, there were people willing to include one of Schenn or Couturier in a trade for Weber and Jake isn't rated as high as those two are. It's not really a matter of not liking Voracek or Meszaros, and I have no issue giving Nashville value to guarantee that the Flyers get Weber.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 21 @ 7:14 PM ET
Predators team website is showcasing Pekka Rinne on one side and................................




Mike Fisher on the other.

Dominoes.

- Flyers1218

i agree, i think that we will see checkie and mezzy go to nash
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 21 @ 7:14 PM ET
I'd go 60-40, but not much more than that.

It helps that I'm OK with it either way. I'm perfectly fine if the Preds match and the Flyers add a guy like Doan, or even wait for the season. I'm also cool if they don;t match and the Flyers surrender the 4 1st or if they work out a fair trade to make it palatable for the Preds owners/GM

- Jsaquella

I still in my bones feel he stays. Doan stays out there. Ryan comes here. Even if Ryan doesn't we have a very competitive team. That's all we can hope for without disappointment
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 21 @ 7:15 PM ET
albeit laught
- Crimsoninja


seriously

i called that DAYS ago
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 21 @ 7:16 PM ET
I would be OK with Voracek, Meszaros and 2 1sts. I look at it like this, if there was no offer sheet, would Voracek, Meszaros & 2 firsts have been acceptable in a trade for Weber? I think a lot of folks would say yes.

Hell, there were people willing to include one of Schenn or Couturier in a trade for Weber and Jake isn't rated as high as those two are. It's not really a matter of not liking Voracek or Meszaros, and I have no issue giving Nashville value to guarantee that the Flyers get Weber.

- Jsaquella

true, give them value. its not like they are low impact players. both would make a major impact from the go
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 21 @ 7:16 PM ET
lier
- Crimsoninja


I won't lie. If the Flyers end up having Shea Day next Wednesday, I will be buying a Weber jersey, and wearing nothing else, will run down the streets naked signing praises of Weber and his massive playoff beard until arrested by the local police.

That said, I like the team the had prior to the offer sheet and think that it would be a solid playoff team without adding anyone. Adding Weber makes it a serious contender.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 21 @ 7:17 PM ET
I still in my bones feel he stays. Doan stays out there. Ryan comes here. Even if Ryan doesn't we have a very competitive team. That's all we can hope for without disappointment
- Deasr1

we will find out in a few if you are right or wrong. i think that the flyers get weber and voracek and mez go. time will tell
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 21 @ 7:19 PM ET
I still in my bones feel he stays. Doan stays out there. Ryan comes here. Even if Ryan doesn't we have a very competitive team. That's all we can hope for without disappointment
- Deasr1


I don't have a gut feeling either way. The financials make it a difficult decision for Nashville. But tough doesn't mean impossible. They CAN match the offer. They may well decide that they can't match and build a competitive team around Weber's deal and Rinne's huge deal.

As for Doan, he's visiting, but still giving the Coyotes every possible opportunity to fix things.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 21 @ 7:21 PM ET
seriously

i called that DAYS ago

- FlyerMike18

yes you did sir
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 21 @ 7:22 PM ET
I won't lie. If the Flyers end up having Shea Day next Wednesday, I will be buying a Weber jersey, and wearing nothing else, will run down the streets naked signing praises of Weber and his massive playoff beard until arrested by the local police.

That said, I like the team the had prior to the offer sheet and think that it would be a solid playoff team without adding anyone. Adding Weber makes it a serious contender.

- Jsaquella

Please just stay away from my mailbox.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 21 @ 7:22 PM ET
yes you did sir
- Crimsoninja


i feel like rodney dangerfield around here
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 21 @ 7:23 PM ET
Please just stay away from my mailbox.
- Deasr1


I don't move that fast, I won't make it north of Wildwood before I get subdued by the auithorities
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 21 @ 7:23 PM ET
I won't lie. If the Flyers end up having Shea Day next Wednesday, I will be buying a Weber jersey, and wearing nothing else, will run down the streets naked signing praises of Weber and his massive playoff beard until arrested by the local police.

That said, I like the team the had prior to the offer sheet and think that it would be a solid playoff team without adding anyone. Adding Weber makes it a serious contender.

- Jsaquella

not saying i wont enjoy the season if they match.. but you have to admit it will be pretty weird having that "what might have been" feeling the whole time

so different than 'oh what if pronger was healthy' or even missing out on a FA or being involved in a big trade rumor that never comes to fruition. this will be way more of a tease, if you know what i mean
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 21 @ 7:25 PM ET
i feel like rodney dangerfield around here
- FlyerMike18



That was probably a fun evening
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 21 @ 7:25 PM ET
not saying i wont enjoy the season if they match.. but you have to admit it will be pretty weird having that "what might have been" feeling the whole time

so different than 'oh what if pronger was healthy' or even missing out on a FA or being involved in a big trade rumor that never comes to fruition. this will be way more of a tease, if you know what i mean

- Crimsoninja


hope they boo the poop out of him in philly if nashville matches
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 21 @ 7:26 PM ET
hope they boo the poop out of him in philly if nashville matches
- FlyerMike18

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 21 @ 7:27 PM ET
not saying i wont enjoy the season if they match.. but you have to admit it will be pretty weird having that "what might have been" feeling the whole time

so different than 'oh what if pronger was healthy' or even missing out on a FA or being involved in a big trade rumor that never comes to fruition. this will be way more of a tease, if you know what i mean

- Crimsoninja


There will be a bit of disappointment if they do match, no lie. I've been trying to keep an even keel on it, but obviously being on the precipice of having Weber to have it yanked away will be a bummer.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 21 @ 7:31 PM ET
I don't move that fast, I won't make it north of Wildwood before I get subdued by the auithorities
- Jsaquella

Shoobies take the main focus in summer. I'll give you to the zoo
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 21 @ 7:36 PM ET
I would be OK with Voracek, Meszaros and 2 1sts. I look at it like this, if there was no offer sheet, would Voracek, Meszaros & 2 firsts have been acceptable in a trade for Weber? I think a lot of folks would say yes.

Hell, there were people willing to include one of Schenn or Couturier in a trade for Weber and Jake isn't rated as high as those two are. It's not really a matter of not liking Voracek or Meszaros, and I have no issue giving Nashville value to guarantee that the Flyers get Weber.

- Jsaquella


If they go there then the 1st rd picks can't be 2013. Make them 14 and 15.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 21 @ 7:36 PM ET
Shoobies take the main focus in summer. I'll give you to the zoo
- Deasr1


Traffic today was insanity. My wife had to go up to Strathmere and it took her an hour.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 21 @ 7:37 PM ET
If they go there then the 1st rd picks can't be 2013. Make them 14 and 15.
- jstross


That could be negotiable. I think that after getting Voracek and Meszaros, my next move would be to get a guy like Bouwmeester if I'm Poile. Get solid players, that can get me to the floor, and not have to pay more than cap hit in salary-i.e. no bonuses.
9thPassyunk
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 04.13.2008

Jul 21 @ 7:40 PM ET
Another factor to consider is where does #6 really want to play? Poile is going to have to speak with Shea and determine if he is going to be content in a cash strapped franchise once they make this huge financial commitment?

The dollars being equal what do you think Shea is going to tell Poile? This IMO will cause a trade to happen which will allow NASH to exit with a better package of players instead of the 4 picks. Homer will acquiesce to the deal that he was prepared to do before he threw down the OS.

Jake, Mez, + 2 1sts which will allow the Flyers the cap space to go after Doan and land the franchise prototype Dman in his prime.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 21 @ 7:42 PM ET
That could be negotiable. I think that after getting Voracek and Meszaros, my next move would be to get a guy like Bouwmeester if I'm Poile. Get solid players, that can get me to the floor, and not have to pay more than cap hit in salary-i.e. no bonuses.
- Jsaquella

Which seems more realitsitc that them signing Weber. The ownership may say that getting value back and trading for a piece, that wont bankrupt them, may be 10x mroe sensible
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 21 @ 7:42 PM ET
I won't lie. If the Flyers end up having Shea Day next Wednesday, I will be buying a Weber jersey, and wearing nothing else, will run down the streets naked signing praises of Weber and his massive playoff beard until arrested by the local police.

That said, I like the team the had prior to the offer sheet and think that it would be a solid playoff team without adding anyone. Adding Weber makes it a serious contender.

- Jsaquella


This will cause nightmares for anybody who witnesses this for the remainder of their days.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 21 @ 7:43 PM ET
This will cause nightmares for anybody who witnesses this for the remainder of their days.
- ob18


When it comes to fat guy nudity, I'm unconcerned about mental scarring
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