Good sign. Doan and Weber press conference Thursday at noon. I can hear Crosbys balls dropping now.....
- aosplayo

luke schenn will be in that press conference too

The question is...if you gave up Coots but keep ALL of the defense intact and give up less picks, do you do it?

For example, Couturier + Cousins + MAB + 1st and 3rd?

Without Doan, who likely wouldn't fit at that point, you sign Arnott. Then, top 3 lines are:

Hartnell - G - Schenn
Simmonds - Briere - Vorachek
Rusty - Arnott - Read

Weber - Kimmo
Grossmann - Coburn
Mesz - Schenn

That's pretty solid! And in a few years Laughton slides into Arnott's role.
- TheGreat28

The thing about Coots is that he appears to have the makings of a dominating player. He's skilled and has great hockey sense. He's big and still has alot of growing left. The sky is the limit. Considering the Flyers are smallish at center akes him even more valuable.

Just was told that Nashville's circumvention hearing was denied by the NHL, and they also won't let Nashville tap into their reserves.

They're in a tough spot, and talks have resumed between the 2 clubs to see if they can workout a trade. Right now Poile still demanding Schenn/Couturier. Homer isn't going to budge there.

I also was told Doan's offer is in the 3yrs/21 mill range, so obviously some moves would follow if they both landed here.
- LordStanley88

Thats all promising news.

If only Briere's kids liked country music

I also liked the comment someone made about how attractive playing in Philly, with their financial reach, could be for UFAs going forward over Nashville. If Nashville matches, they have a ton of $ invested in 2 players, with not much wiggle room to add core UFAs to remain competitive. Philly on the otherhand, spends to the cap and has the cash to have Giroux, Hartnell, Schenns, Briere, etc on top of Weber. Philly is a very enticing place to sign if you're a Shane Doan, or a Corry Perry next summer, or Bobby Ryan in 3 years, etc.

Just was told that Nashville's circumvention hearing was denied by the NHL, and they also won't let Nashville tap into their reserves.

They're in a tough spot, and talks have resumed between the 2 clubs to see if they can workout a trade. Right now Poile still demanding Schenn/Couturier. Homer isn't going to budge there.

I also was told Doan's offer is in the 3yrs/21 mill range, so obviously some moves would follow if they both landed here.
- LordStanley88

Wow. Gary B did da Preds dirty, yo yo yo

Just was told that Nashville's circumvention hearing was denied by the NHL, and they also won't let Nashville tap into their reserves.

They're in a tough spot, and talks have resumed between the 2 clubs to see if they can workout a trade. Right now Poile still demanding Schenn/Couturier. Homer isn't going to budge there.

I also was told Doan's offer is in the 3yrs/21 mill range, so obviously some moves would follow if they both landed here.
- LordStanley88

Too much for Doan IMO

luke schenn will be in that press conference too
- griouxmvp2012

Dear god let it be so.......wed be the Bruins only with more scoring......

Too much for Doan IMO
- eayost

I agree, but say we lose Jake and/or Read in the Weber swap, then we have a serious need on the wing.

I'd rather keep Voracek than acquire Doan, it's just me, he had an awesome playoff last year and has a ton of upside, if the Preds match this, it cripples them, if they don't it still cripples them in 2 different ways.
- puckhead17

I agree completely, and I wanted Doan pretty much since day 1 of FA. It's more due to his age vs. Doan as much as skill set. I worry about Doan in years 3 and 4. I'm sure a lot of others would prefer Doan's gritty style and leadership tho.

It may be the later, as Clarke knew Tampa couldn't match & offered Renberg
- puckhead17

Actually, it was Mr. Snyder who stepped in and requested that TB be sent a package instead of the picks. He felt it was the right thing to do. It's because of the history between Poile and the Flyers that I believe this will take place as well IF they decide not to match.

Personally, though, I believe Nash will match.

It will just take time to convince the ownership group (perhaps the city, and the state also) that keeping Weber makes not only hockey sense, but fiscal sense as well. Then they have to crunch the numbers to make this work and insure the franchise can stay competitive and viable both in the short term and the long term.

Even if they've already decided not to match, what's the advantage of announcing it early? I'd want my fan base to believe that I overturned every stone in the time allotted to find available funding to make this happen.

I agree completely, and I wanted Doan pretty much since day 1 of FA. It's more due to his age vs. Doan as much as skill set. I worry about Doan in years 3 and 4. I'm sure a lot of others would prefer Doan's gritty style and leadership tho.
- TheGreat28

Yeah but if we have weber for that, Doan who?

Jake V could be a 60 point guy each year

I'd rather keep Voracek than acquire Doan, it's just me, he had an awesome playoff last year and has a ton of upside, if the Preds match this, it cripples them, if they don't it still cripples them in 2 different ways.
- puckhead17

Oh me too, don't get me wrong. I'm just implying that if we bargain with Poile and end of including Jake in a trade for some of our picks back, we would need to add a top 6 winger to replace him. Doan fits the bill perfectly IMO.

Dear god let it be so.......wed be the Bruins only with more scoring......
- aosplayo

i know thet are both rh shots but i would but schenn and weber together it would make schenn that much better

The thing about Coots is that he appears to have the makings of a dominating player. He's skilled and has great hockey sense. He's big and still has alot of growing left. The sky is the limit. Considering the Flyers are smallish at center akes him even more valuable.
- 2731color

Generally I do agree. I'm only thinking that long-term Schenn slots in as 2nd line center and Laughton would make an ideal 3rd line center 2 years out. Bridge that gap with Arnott and you could afford to give up Couturier.

I agree, but say we lose Jake and/or Read in the Weber swap, then we have a serious need on the wing.
- LordStanley88

I agree.. but 7M would be tough to stomach. I do worry about Doan's play dropping off sharply at some point ala LeClair. But they may just have to do it if it comes down to it

Thats all promising news.
- moylander

don't want doan at 7 MM per

Oh me too, don't get me wrong. I'm just implying that if we bargain with Poile and end of including Jake in a trade for some of our picks back, we would need to add a top 6 winger to replace him. Doan fits the bill perfectly IMO.
- Rocktane

Simmonds or reade

I like those guys a ton a well, but Jake to me needs to stay.
It also seems that Gary B & Homer are taking turns kicking Poile smooth in his nuts as well.

i know thet are both rh shots but i would but schenn and weber together it would make schenn that much better
- griouxmvp2012

I just picture Jurassic Park 2 where the Mama T-Rex is teaching the baby T-Rex how to hunt at the end in the boat.........

I agree.. but 7M would be tough to stomach. I do worry about Doan's play dropping off sharply at some point ala LeClair. But they may just have to do it if it comes down to it
- eayost

Doan brings so much more than just goals and points to a team though. Think about that.

His LR presence, work ethic, and hits are off the charts.

Not saying he's worth $7 mill per, but I could live with it for a few years.

Or

Put your Pekke in the 5 hole,.........go Preds
- puckhead17

If you are from Philly and a little bit older, Conklin did an excellent bit a long time ago about Clarkie in the shower. One of hte lines was "Let me take out a rag and clean the ole 5-hole".

You totally reminded me of that.

Pronger and Bryz played less than 20 games together. Bryz didn't play well at the beginning of the year if I remember correctly.
- stveshdy

I believe Bryz played better in the majority of those 20 games than he did in any month not named March. Take away the Winnipeg games, and he did start off better. Add in Luke's physical play and shot blocking along with a full season of Coburn-Grossmann, and I think Bryz plays a hell of a lot better in his 2nd Flyer season.

Actually, it was Mr. Snyder who stepped in and requested that TB be sent a package instead of the picks. He felt it was the right thing to do. It's because of the history between Poile and the Flyers that I believe this will take place as well IF they decide not to match.

Personally, though, I believe Nash will match.

It will just take time to convince the ownership group (perhaps the city, and the state also) that keeping Weber makes not only hockey sense, but fiscal sense as well. Then they have to crunch the numbers to make this work and insure the franchise can stay competitive and viable both in the short term and the long term.

Even if they've already decided not to match, what's the advantage of announcing it early? I'd want my fan base to believe that I overturned every stone in the time allotted to find available funding to make this happen.
- 77rams

They are screwed whether they match or not, $15 million a year to one D man and goalie gives them very little around them, aside from the front load which hurts them double.

You have had a bunch of accountants come on and say the financing is not a problem. The cost is negligible to bridge finance the accrelerated dollars from fy1 and fy2. The issue for Nashville is locking in of Weber for a whole bunch of years when it is apparent they are facing a rebuild. The Weber contract does not require Nashville to spend anymore money this year than the had already planned on spending. It is not a case of if they can afford it. Rather, it is about if this is best value they can get for where they are right now.
- spatso

They can claim to be the wizard Merlin, doesn't mean poop when Nashville is known to be in a financial bind and had to be forced through arbitration last year to pay Weber half of what they would have to pay him this year. Nashvilles revenue from ticket sales was only 26 mil or so and it will be okay for them to pay half of that to one player?

Generally I do agree. I'm only thinking that long-term Schenn slots in as 2nd line center and Laughton would make an ideal 3rd line center 2 years out. Bridge that gap with Arnott and you could afford to give up Couturier.
- TheGreat28

At 6'4", 191 lbs, 19 years old, and with his skill set..... man is he going to be a female dog to play against when he fills out. Couturier is a keeper IMO. I hope they don't budge and deal him.