coles notes version

Briuns finished ahead of the Leafs, won all 4 reg season games (never trailed)
maybe they are just the better team..and its that simple.

i watched the games... thats what I am seeing
- senstroll

They’ve been better this series for sure. What bugs me is that I don’t think they’re a better team.

They’ve been better this series for sure. What bugs me is that I don’t think they’re a better team.
- shack67

but they are.

now underdogs can win. but they Bruins are better

coles notes version

Briuns finished ahead of the Leafs, won all 4 reg season games (never trailed)
maybe they are just the better team..and its that simple.

i watched the games... thats what I am seeing
- senstroll

Fair and accurate in my opinion.

Toronto was the underdog going into this series - it’s hard to remember that sometimes.

word it how you want, it equals the same... Bruins are a better team

they are the home team, finished ahead of the leafs. The leafs never were a threat to even win the division.
- senstroll

I mean go back to February and we had all written them off. They looked like the better team in past years and found ways to lose. This year they've never looked like the better team (compared to FLA, BOS, CAR, NYR). They looked a step behind the best teams all year. Factor in some weird injuries/illness to their best players and I'm not sure what else we'd expect.

PK was bad all year. PP was inconsistent all year. Defensive structure took a step back this year.

It's still disappointing b/c Bawston is there for the taking but win or lose Treeman has some work to do this summer.

We could win with average goaltending. That’s not what we’re getting Cush.
- shack67

Disagree on both accounts.

🤷‍♂️

Those are made up numbers. We out shot them last night and we definitely had more than 11 shots in two periods.
- shack67

High danger scoring chances.

I mean go back to February and we had all written them off. They looked like the better team in past years and found ways to lose. This year they've never looked like the better team (compared to FLA, BOS, CAR, NYR). They looked a step behind the best teams all year. Factor in some weird injuries/illness to their best players and I'm not sure what else we'd expect.

PK was bad all year. PP was inconsistent all year. Defensive structure took a step back this year.

It's still disappointing b/c Bawston is there for the taking but win or lose Treeman has some work to do this summer.
- The Law

Fair - maybe this is the painful one step back (and next year will probably be another) to take 4 steps forward.

Let’s hope so but this series isn’t over.

Yet.

They’ve been better this series for sure. What bugs me is that I don’t think they’re a better team.
- shack67

I don't either.

That is what is so infuriating. This absolutely should have been the year to see what the team would be like with different coaching. We still don't know the answer to that.

Their defensive structure, work ethic, PP an PK have been horrible, or eratic, for years now.

I mean go back to February and we had all written them off. They looked like the better team in past years and found ways to lose. This year they've never looked like the better team (compared to FLA, BOS, CAR, NYR). They looked a step behind the best teams all year. Factor in some weird injuries/illness to their best players and I'm not sure what else we'd expect.

PK was bad all year. PP was inconsistent all year. Defensive structure took a step back this year.

It's still disappointing b/c Bawston is there for the taking but win or lose Treeman has some work to do this summer.
- The Law

maybe they have never been as good as we thought. we they really better than all the other teams they lost to? 2021 HAbs..thats about it. rest..we just said they were

High danger scoring chances.
- Aetherial

Did any team ever win with a below 900 save percentage? I really don’t know but even if the forwards come around we won’t win with Sammy. Even the jvr goal, would that be a goal against swayman?

I don't either.

That is what is so infuriating. This absolutely should have been the year to see what the team would be like with different coaching. We still don't know the answer to that.

Their defensive structure, work ethic, PP an PK have been horrible, or eratic, for years now.
- Aetherial

Boston has better goalies, defense, PP, PK and coach... but other than that...

Both are true. But the biggest thing for me is goaltending. Sammy was above.900 once and that’s the game we won.

It’s also difficult to think offensively when you know the other team is probably going to score on most of their chances.
- shack67

I can agree with that, you play totally different individually and as a group when you have no confidence your goaltender will be making the saves.

There's been weak goals and goals at inopportune times. That doesn't inspire confidence.

Boston plays like they know they can do whatever the (frank) they want and their goalies will make the saves.

I don't either.

That is what is so infuriating. This absolutely should have been the year to see what the team would be like with different coaching. We still don't know the answer to that.

Their defensive structure, work ethic, PP an PK have been horrible, or eratic, for years now.
- Aetherial

I’ve been watching a few of the other games and the only team that I would feel confident about playing is Washington. I think every other team would smoke us.

Did any team ever win with a below 900 save percentage? I really don’t know but even if the forwards come around we won’t win with Sammy. Even the jvr goal, would that be a goal against swayman?
- shack67

averaging less than 2 goals a game over the past 11 games.

That isn't going to win you anything.

Did any team ever win with a below 900 save percentage? I really don’t know but even if the forwards come around we won’t win with Sammy. Even the jvr goal, would that be a goal against swayman?
- shack67

Canucks just won with a sv % of .900
Tampa won with Vasi having an .880 sv%

Just off the top of my head so yes good teams can win with .900 or sub .900 Sv%’s

Tampa scored 6 goals Vancouver scored 4 by the way.

I can agree with that, you play totally different individually and as a group when you have no confidence your goaltender will be making the saves.

There's been weak goals and goals at inopportune times. That doesn't inspire confidence.

Boston plays like they know they can do whatever the (frank) they want and their goalies will make the saves.
- joel878

Every team that goes deep is usually because of a hot goalie. What we have now reminds me of the Sens and Lalime(spelling)?

I’ve been watching a few of the other games and the only team that I would feel confident about playing is Washington. I think every other team would smoke us.
- shack67

It is so annoying because, even with the weak defense and goaltending, they should be MUCH better. This thing in the playoffs is coaching and culture/work ethic.

Canucks just won with a sv % of .900
Tampa won with Vasi having an .880 sv%

Just off the top of my head so yes good teams can win with .900 or sub .900 Sv%’s

Tampa scored 6 goals Vancouver scored 4 by the way.
- Cush29

I mean a series.

They’ve been better this series for sure. What bugs me is that I don’t think they’re a better team.
- shack67

For me ...playoffs are different ..they require different things. Generally, the game grinds down a bit, good teams with less "offensive talent" can balance out the 5v5 play more easily in the playoffs. Blueline and g'tending become more important because mistakes are huge and it's harder to outscore your mistakes.

Someone will point out the Oilers (finally) and the Avs as teams that seem to be able to outscore some goaltending/defensive issues in the playoffs ...but both those teams dominate on special teams. Oilers might be the Leafs ...but for 7 ppg instead of 1.

If you're going to sacrifice g'tending and the blue line and invest heavily in offence then you better make sure you're crushing it on special teams.

Did any team ever win with a below 900 save percentage? I really don’t know but even if the forwards come around we won’t win with Sammy. Even the jvr goal, would that be a goal against swayman?
- shack67

Nope. It was a weak play by Samsonov, at best.

For me ...playoffs are different ..they require different things. Generally, the game grinds down a bit, good teams with less "offensive talent" can balance out the 5v5 play more easily in the playoffs. Blueline and g'tending become more important because mistakes are huge and it's harder to outscore your mistakes.

Someone will point out the Oilers (finally) and the Avs as teams that seem to be able to outscore some goaltending/defensive issues in the playoffs ...but both those teams dominate on special teams. Oilers might be the Leafs ...but for 7 ppg instead of 1.

If you're going to sacrifice g'tending and the blue line and invest heavily in offence then you better make sure you're crushing it on special teams.
- The Law

The Leafs try to pass it into the net.
They also don't work particularly hard on the PP.

This has been an off and on problem for years and has never been addressed. The (frank)ing talent on the PP should be filling the net.

It is so annoying because, even with the weak defense and goaltending, they should be MUCH better. This thing in the playoffs is coaching and culture/work ethic.
- Aetherial

Every other team has some forwards that you know are going to bring it. I don’t think we have a single player that I could honestly say that about.

averaging less than 2 goals a game over the past 11 games.

That isn't going to win you anything.
- Aetherial

Yep.

40M for 2 or less goals per game is just brutal. They need to figure it out - sick, sore or not.

Then maybe the goalie won’t feel like he needs to be perfect even when his team throws up terrible giveaways or odd man rushes and breakaways because his team can (frank)ing score more than 2.

See how that knife can cut both ways?

I mean a series.
- shack67

Ah yes goalpost moving time.

I’m out.

word it how you want, it equals the same... Bruins are a better team

they are the home team, finished ahead of the leafs. The leafs never were a threat to even win the division.
- senstroll

Yes, because it’s a top-heavy roster centered on the “Core-4.” Until TOR mgt realizes they need to reallocate/rebalance the roster to provide better assets on defense and goaltending - it’s going to lead to this consistent playoff disappointment.