I just posted above....18,000 works only of they can keep charging very high prices and the NHL should discourage any buildings that small.

But if stuck they would let it slide like they did in Winnipeg.

San Jose sold out every game and I think their capacity is about 18-19K...
They lost $15 mill last season.
- Al

Just looked at a ticket from a game my daughter took me to last year in Toronto. Seats were comparable to my Lexus Level seats in Chicago. Price of the Toronto ticket - $175. My seats in Chicago - $75 and it includes parking in Lot C across the street.

2 schools of thought on seating capacity - less seats = more demand for tickets and firmer pricing. Too many seats - no urgency to buy a ticket early, can always get a ticket mentality.

Again, suites?

UC, I THINK, has about 100 suites/skyboxes/whatever that they sell for - well, I don't know, but it brings in tons of revenue, split somehow between the Hawks and Bulls. It's a lot of revenue for a small pied-a-terre.

Does MTS is Winnepeg have suites? Would Saskatoon?
- StLBravesFan

Agreed, suites produce sizeable revenue. But you are missing the obvious - suites are full when it is a happening place to go and the team is winning. Crappy team and the lights are out in alot of those suites.

In Canadian markets, the tickets are all sold well before the season. Even teams like Toronto and Edmonton who have been horrible for years don't have to work at selling tickets and putting bums in the seats. Seat holders never give then up.

And I think I read that Winnipeg was in the top 10 or 12 revenue producing teams in the league already despite their small arena.

The Vancouver blogger proposed a Luongo for Zetterberg.....anyone think that's going to happen
- southernhawk

He's still under the impression that Gillis is going to get something significant for Luser.

The Maple leafs will never concede their territorial right for any amount of money and can afford any lawsuit anybody throws at them.
But there is a new NHL size arena being constructed in Markham - just east of Toronto. Should be able to Google the details.

And another thing - putting another team near Toronto would be at the risk of hurting the Buffalo Sabres which depend on Canadian fans for a good part of their game to game attendance.

Winnipeg arena is new and was expanded to get up to 15000. They take in more $ per game than the Thrashers did in 10 games.
- RickJ

I agree about the Sabres but they are too far away to have a say...They have been keeping prices low some say because they benefit from getting help from big mkt teams...Even though they have had a good size wait list.

So really that area is out....So Quebec and ??

But as you say it is a moot point for now.

Just looked at a ticket from a game my daughter took me to last year in Toronto. Seats were comparable to my Lexus Level seats in Chicago. Price of the Toronto ticket - $175. My seats in Chicago - $75 and it includes parking in Lot C across the street.

2 schools of thought on seating capacity - less seats = more demand for tickets and firmer pricing. Too many seats - no urgency to buy a ticket early, can always get a ticket mentality.
- RickJ

No two schools of thought here...

In the States with 41 home games and preseason you need to have the capacity to hit it big when going well....Just imagine what their bottom line would be like if the Hawks had 18k instead of almost 22k??

Plus the boxes are the cash cow.....And no one has more than the UC.

The 300 level wouldn't be close to full for most games at Toronto prices.

Many places can't charge enough with only 14-15K seats.

I agree about the Sabres but they are too far away to have a say...They have been keeping prices low some say because they benefit from getting help from big mkt teams...Even though they have had a good size wait list.

So really that area is out....So Quebec and ??

But as you say it is a moot point for now.
- Al

Move the Coyotes to Stockholm, the Islanders to Munich, Blue Jackets to Helsinki and the Panthers to London. Create a 4 team Euro Division that plays most of their North American games in the Eastern time zone.

Timing to cross the Atlantic is no different than flying east from California, especially with private jets.

Move the Coyotes to Stockholm, the Islanders to Munich, Blue Jackets to Helsinki and the Panthers to London. Create a 4 team Euro Division that plays most of their North American games in the Eastern time zone.

Timing to cross the Atlantic is no different than flying east from California, especially with private jets.
- RickJ

Wang would have a better chance of getting a new arena in Helsinki!

No two schools of thought here...

In the States with 41 home games and preseason you need to have the capacity to hit it big when going well....Just imagine what their bottom line would be like if the Hawks had 18k instead of almost 22k??

Plus the boxes are the cash cow.....And no one has more than the UC.

The 300 level wouldn't be close to full for most games at Toronto prices.

Many places can't charge enough with only 14-15K seats.
- Al

Don't disagree, but..... if a team is selling 4 tickets for $99 and giving away a hot dog and coke with each ticket .... well you haven't got any kind of fan base or a crappy team.

But then again, no price is cheap enough to get me to buy a ticket for an NBA game.

Wang would have a better chance of getting a new arena in Helsinki!
- Al

If it comes down to the Isles having to move, wouldn't Brooklyn make some sense?

Facts and logic to a lib = spin....
- TrueGrit

This may be the funniest thing I've read in a long time...just WOW.

He's still under the impression that Gillis is going to get something significant for Luser.
- EKolb13

go look what i posted over there eli! it's like the soriano contract. esplen is off his rocker!

And Mint Robme and his buds are part of the 47%, or damn near close. He paid less taxes than I did last year, we know that for sure. And he created lots of jobs in his time, for 9 year old Chinese girls.

That last administration had it figured out, Mint will try it again, with little to no taxes for the Royalists and zero regulation, how did that work out? Record surplus inherited, record deficit passed on. Dow at 12,500 when he came in 5,500 when he left. SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND jobs lost in the crime family's last month occupying the White House.

And you call the poster a dope, Goof?
- Mr Ricochet

Wow Rahm, impressive, If you paid more in taxes...more than 6.5 million and you spew stupidity...? something does not add up.

There is an old addage...You never get into an argument with a fool 'cause after a while people won't be able to tell the difference.

Go ahead and enjoy the great State of Illinois. The peoples republic. Getting econ/strategic advice from someone buying into and promoting ideas that have led to the current condition of Illinois is akin to hiring a guy to coach your pro football team because he won his fantasy football league two years in a row.

You mean the same top tax rate paid during Eisenhower's administration when this country became the greatest economic super power this earth has ever seen?
- Mr Ricochet

That comment should disqualify you from voting again. Wow, stunning.

JJ I am suspending myself from anymore comments pn this thread for violating your policy.

He's still under the impression that Gillis is going to get something significant for Luser.
- EKolb13

I kinda hope he gets stuck in Vancouver

JJ I am suspending myself from anymore comments pn this thread for violating your policy.
- TrueGrit

Don't do it grit......

I kinda hope he gets stuck in Vancouver
- southernhawk

He'll be there for a while. At the very least he'll be there until the lockout ends.

He'll be there for a while. At the very least he'll be there until the lockout ends.
- EKolb13

Yep! the canuck people think they're gonna get sid the kid back in return or something comparible! they're sadly mistaken.
my whole point all these months is "i'd take a flier on him if gillis is willing to take back bad deals in return otherwise anything else "NO DEAL!"
PS. sorry if i hurt your feelings canuck fans! next time don't make a goalie, the captian of your team, the face of the franchise ! just tell him to stop the puck!

You might have to bring a shotgun...
- EKolb13

Shotgun it is... THE ultimate home-defence weapon.

If it comes down to the Isles having to move, wouldn't Brooklyn make some sense?
- EKolb13

I would hope they were smart enough to make their new Nets home with Ice.

I see what you did there...

For chris'sakes, this is getting as bad as watching commercials of each candidate slinging mud at each other.
- EKolb13

Did you know that Ekolb13, takes a shotgun to a FAMILY hockey game? With all the shootings, haven't we had enough violence...

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