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Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 9 @ 12:11 PM ET
Hey Beav,
No idea, just a lucky guess.

- djd


Hey there DJ,

As you are very aware of this. Two answers are completely out to lunch. One answer is close to being right. Which leaves the correct answer.

Multi choice test answering 101..

Boisy12
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 05.01.2009

Jul 9 @ 12:16 PM ET
We need a 2nd line centre and the options are really dwindling. 2 realistic options and signing Mueller (UFA) or trading for Gagner (Edmonton). Neither is perfect and comes with risk, but they both have the possibility to do well.
- DarthKane


+1. One of these options needs to happen. A second line C could really flourish with the Hawks because of the potential W that u get to play with. Who wouldn't want to play with Kane, sharp, hossa etc..
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jul 9 @ 12:17 PM ET
We need a 2nd line centre and the options are really dwindling. 2 realistic options and signing Mueller (UFA) or trading for Gagner (Edmonton). Neither is perfect and comes with risk, but they both have the possibility to do well.
- DarthKane


The idea of Gagner scares me. Outside of two games (Hawks and Wings) the guy was marginal all year. He's small. Doesn't win draws. But like you said, options are dwindling. I think the hawks would have to overpay to get a legit 2nd line center. That's why a guy like Ott, or Gaustad, would've been a good addition. Both win faceoffs, add grit, create space. Perhaps not ideal 2C, but serviceable.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 9 @ 12:19 PM ET
No.. I had to do it..
- pri$ey



eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jul 9 @ 12:20 PM ET
I agree, you'd have to think there are several trades brewing with many teams involved. Teams won't know which players, or if, they're parting with players. Consequently, they don't know what holes need to be filled yet? Makes sense to me.
- djd


I look no further than the Sharks in this argument. I'm in their backyard and after they got bounced, there was all sorts of talk about trading Doug Murray, and Marleau and Niemi, but nothing has happened...yet. Marleau is the same player today than he was in April, perhaps more so now. So I have to think a lot of teams are having discussions about this/that player.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 9 @ 12:21 PM ET
From HockeyyInsiderr this morning:

"Working on Habs update right now. Hearing talks with Blackhawks intensifying. More to come."

- BDT36


This guy must get his insider info from Eklund.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 9 @ 12:25 PM ET
What's up fellas? Just got out of class, did I miss anything?
TyCamScore
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.09.2010

Jul 9 @ 12:26 PM ET
What's up fellas? Just got out of class, did I miss anything?
- EKolb13


Not a thing Ek!
djd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Osoyoos, BC
Joined: 02.11.2008

Jul 9 @ 12:31 PM ET
I look no further than the Sharks in this argument. I'm in their backyard and after they got bounced, there was all sorts of talk about trading Doug Murray, and Marleau and Niemi, but nothing has happened...yet. Marleau is the same player today than he was in April, perhaps more so now. So I have to think a lot of teams are having discussions about this/that player.
- eburgio



Sharks are in big time on Nash trade talks aren't they?

Doug Wilson must be on his last gasp as GM. Every year he seems to make noteworthy changes but still falls short. Sad to see that team getting a half step slower and a year older each year. Their window has passed. I think this is what upsets most of us here. There's a window of opportunity that is slipping away because the GM overvalues his players, undervalues others, and suffers from analysis paralysis.
miked23
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jul 9 @ 12:32 PM ET
The idea of Gagner scares me. Outside of two games (Hawks and Wings) the guy was marginal all year. He's small. Doesn't win draws. But like you said, options are dwindling. I think the hawks would have to overpay to get a legit 2nd line center. That's why a guy like Ott, or Gaustad, would've been a good addition. Both win faceoffs, add grit, create space. Perhaps not ideal 2C, but serviceable.
- eburgio

neither ott nor gaustad can or will play 2nd line center. They're great players and they do bring what you mentioned. But neither is capable of being a 2nd line center.

That's exactly who ott was traded for-dal traded Ribiero (who would've been a nice fit for us) and needed a natural 1 or 2 center to replace him. So they traded a bottom 6 fwd (albeit a very good one) and a big bodied dman (although a very bad one) for Roy-a legit 2C...who also would've been a nice fit here.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 9 @ 12:37 PM ET
Hey there DJ,

As you are very aware of this. Two answers are completely out to lunch. One answer is close to being right. Which leaves the correct answer.

Multi choice test answering 101..

- Beaver-Warrior


IndianHead10
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.14.2012

Jul 9 @ 12:38 PM ET
Anyone going to the prospects camp ?
Boisy12
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 05.01.2009

Jul 9 @ 12:41 PM ET
The idea of Gagner scares me. Outside of two games (Hawks and Wings) the guy was marginal all year. He's small. Doesn't win draws. But like you said, options are dwindling. I think the hawks would have to overpay to get a legit 2nd line center. That's why a guy like Ott, or Gaustad, would've been a good addition. Both win faceoffs, add grit, create space. Perhaps not ideal 2C, but serviceable.
- eburgio


I just dont see another option, other than:
1. Kane or Sharp playing C
2. Bolland moving to 2 line C and Kruger going #3

At least Gagne is familiar with Kane and they put up a ton of points together. Maybe have Carcillo play with them or sign Winnick.
miked23
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jul 9 @ 12:42 PM ET
We need a 2nd line centre and the options are really dwindling. 2 realistic options and signing Mueller (UFA) or trading for Gagner (Edmonton). Neither is perfect and comes with risk, but they both have the possibility to do well.
- DarthKane

This kinda goes back to what StanBo said after the season. Are any of these guys-Ggner, Ott, Roy, ribiero, Mueller,etc better than Kane at 2C? Why not let Kane center Sharp and Hossa- and go get someone REAL to play with Toews (Doan?, Nash?). A line of Toews, Stalberg, Nash followed by a Kane/Hoss/ Sharp sounds kinda nice, dont it?

The line combos arent important. If Kane can play center-our options at finding a legit top line winger become more plausible. (FRANK) GAGNE.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 9 @ 12:49 PM ET
I just dont see another option, other than:
1. Kane or Sharp playing C
2. Bolland moving to 2 line C and Kruger going #3

At least Gagne is familiar with Kane and they put up a ton of points together. Maybe have Carcillo play with them or sign Winnick.

- Boisy12


I don't see Sharp moving to center, unless its due to injuries, or as a last resort.

To start, I'm sure it will be a mix of Kane and Kruger, then Bolland if the Hawks are mired in a losing streak. I can't see Q trying to move Bolland out of the #3 slot. It may take a different head coach for Bolland to get a serious look as the #2 center.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:02 PM ET
Jesse being Jesse again...

Jesse Rogers‏@ESPNChiHawks

Fit isnt there dont think RT @mguz1987: @ESPNChiHawks do we have any interest in Doan?


I say FU Jesse !! Doan would be perfect in Chicago , wtf is he talking about ??
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:04 PM ET
I underlined the line that spoke volumes to me.

Good luck Hawk fans.... I think you guys will need it

- moylander


Yea it's tough to do. This is the cap era and building through free agency ain't gonna work.

A free agent when a hole can be filled, a trade when a hole can be filled and keep the talent pipeline full and producing NHL players.

No silver bullet.

Just like the Flyers. They got skunked on Parise/Suter and lost out on Carle. So they fill the bottom of the D rotation through free agency and unless they can make a trade they'll go with their kids.

And I agree. No need to wreck the roster going for Nash. If by some chance Doan says yes, great. If not let the kids play.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:06 PM ET
Jesse being Jesse again...

Jesse Rogers‏@ESPNChiHawks

Fit isnt there dont think RT @mguz1987: @ESPNChiHawks do we have any interest in Doan?


I say FU Jesse !! Doan would be perfect in Chicago , wtf is he talking about ??

- mrpaulish


Higher insight from Jesse? Just like his "Staal trade proposal/overpayment."

That guy is really making himself out to be a total jackass.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:07 PM ET
Higher insight from Jesse? Just like his "Staal trade proposal/overpayment."

That guy is really making himself out to be a total jackass.

- EKolb13



I used to hate him when he was on the radio doing post game.