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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 25 @ 12:58 PM ET
http://thehockeywriters.com/the-2012-summer-goalie-market/



Thoughts? Seemed a little steep for Timmy to me.

- Double_A



The Thomas/Chicago angle is interesting and makes sense, except for Bolland. Quenneville loves him, and a condition of Quenneville staying (and not going to Montreal) is he gets the roster he wants this year. Put Frolik, Bickell or possibly even Jimmy Hayes in there and you might have smething. although I think the B's would have to sweeten it to get Hayes.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

May 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
http://thehockeywriters.com/the-2012-summer-goalie-market/



Thoughts? Seemed a little steep for Timmy to me.

- Double_A


I don't see anyone in the front office going with the idea of Crawford and his contract riding the bench, especially when that money can be used eslewhere on the team.

Bolland for a year of Tim Thomas seems too much to me. Crawford, Beach and a mid round pick would sound like a fair deal for Thomas.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 25 @ 1:00 PM ET
JJ,
I like the lineup with Shaw and Carcillo in it together. I think it gives them real energy & grit. I still say, though, Stan can make all of the moves he wants on the D and Forward side, I just don't see a team winning a Cup with Crawford in net. Too many S-O-F-T (thank you, Larry Legend) goals at crucial times. I think our cup willing goalie is gonna have to be an in-season trade after they finally realize He is not the answer.

- furso27



I like it better with Shaw, Carcillo and Bollig
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

May 25 @ 1:00 PM ET
I like it better with Shaw, Carcillo and Bollig
- John Jaeckel


pri$ey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Proud "Hawktard", NB
Joined: 05.17.2008

May 25 @ 1:04 PM ET
Only three players I would even consider from the Habs - Subban, Price, and Moen.

Pleks is too expensive.

- Return of the Roar


Plekanec would be great for the 2nd line center.

He gets worn out in Montreal trying to be the #1 and also playing both PK/PP

He can do it all but would be better playing behind Toews IMO.

You're right, he is expensive. But only slightly IMO. Getting him would mean that Bolland would have to go.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 25 @ 1:04 PM ET
I like it better with Shaw, Carcillo and Bollig
- John Jaeckel


Fighting aside, all three are forwards who finish checks with murderous intentions. Would be a huge improvement on this team.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 25 @ 1:05 PM ET
Plekanec would be great for the 2nd line center.

He gets worn out in Montreal trying to be the #1 and also playing both PK/PP

He can do it all but would be better playing behind Toews IMO.

You're right, he is expensive. But only slightly IMO. Getting him would mean that Bolland would have to go.

- pri$ey


Maybe, what about Hjalmarsson and, say, Pirri.
nickmo2699
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.06.2012

May 25 @ 1:05 PM ET
I like it better with Shaw, Carcillo and Bollig
- John Jaeckel


19-88-Lucic
Stoll-81-25
36-65-29
22-13-52

Trade Sharp and Kruger for Lucic
Sign Stoll
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

May 25 @ 1:17 PM ET
Roar it's positive friday.
- nickmo2699


That's why I'm going to the track today
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

May 25 @ 1:23 PM ET
$9.40 the last time I was in Montreal. Two seasons ago.

But you can get Molson Dry.. One of my favorites "big" Canadian beers.

- pri$ey

Dry? 1989 called, they want their beer fad back.
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

May 25 @ 1:25 PM ET
The Thomas/Chicago angle is interesting and makes sense, except for Bolland. Quenneville loves him, and a condition of Quenneville staying (and not going to Montreal) is he gets the roster he wants this year. Put Frolik, Bickell or possibly even Jimmy Hayes in there and you might have smething. although I think the B's would have to sweeten it to get Hayes.
- John Jaeckel


Bickell seems like a fit for sure, could replace a guy like Pouliot.
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

May 25 @ 1:30 PM ET
I don't see anyone in the front office going with the idea of Crawford and his contract riding the bench, especially when that money can be used eslewhere on the team.

Bolland for a year of Tim Thomas seems too much to me. Crawford, Beach and a mid round pick would sound like a fair deal for Thomas.

- EKolb13


I would assume if the B's moved Thomas the plan would be to roll with Rask/Khudobin, but it's not a bad fit if they can flip Khudobin for an asset. With Svedberg in the system now and Khudobin with a 1 way deal next year I would suspect they wouldn't want to put him in Providence. Value seems about right though.

Bolland seemed like too much, which is too bad, can you imagine a Bolland/Marchand/whoever line?
pri$ey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Proud "Hawktard", NB
Joined: 05.17.2008

May 25 @ 1:33 PM ET
Maybe, what about Hjalmarsson and, say, Pirri.
- John Jaeckel


Would that plan still allow for Suter? To get both they'd have to trade both Bolland and Hjalmarsson.

They'd still need a big body power forward..

Dustin Penner has looked awfully good for the Kings in the playoffs...

But a guy like that means no #2 center and Suter or #2 center/Penner and sticking with the same dcorps as now.

Then what about goalies?

This roster allows $1.94 cap space (assuming its the same next season)

Stalberg-Toews-Kane
Sharp-Plekanec-Hossa
Frolik-Kruger-Bickell
Carcillo-Shaw-Bollig
Hayes

Seabrook-Suter
Keith-Leddy
Montador-Olsen

Crawford
Emery


You could also go with Penner and Matt Carle while trying to trade Frolik and end up with 1.74 cap space.

There are a lot of options this off season. This will be the time where we get a real good gauge on Bowman.
pri$ey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Proud "Hawktard", NB
Joined: 05.17.2008

May 25 @ 1:34 PM ET
Dry? 1989 called, they want their beer fad back.
- Ogilthorpe2




Molson Dry and Moosehead Dry are two great beers.

Remember, I live in New Brunswick.. Nirvana just hit #1 last week
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

May 25 @ 1:37 PM ET
Dry? 1989 called, they want their beer fad back.
- Ogilthorpe2

grinder10
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Joined: 04.04.2009

May 25 @ 1:56 PM ET
Wouldn't surprise me one iota, if the Hawks say goodbye to a couple of the older guys. Aren't Richards, Hutton and Salak all 25 or so? Wonder what Phil and Rick think about the OHL tender, Mattsson.
- Beaver-Warrior


I think Mattson COULD end up being the best of the three. Reportedly sees more shots and has pretty good size w/ good numbers. Hopeful the Hawks org does right by their young goalie prospects, though I'm a bit skeptical.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

May 25 @ 1:57 PM ET
Would that plan still allow for Suter? To get both they'd have to trade both Bolland and Hjalmarsson.

They'd still need a big body power forward..

Dustin Penner has looked awfully good for the Kings in the playoffs...

But a guy like that means no #2 center and Suter or #2 center/Penner and sticking with the same dcorps as now.

You could also go with Penner and Matt Carle while trying to trade Frolik.

There are a lot of options this off season. This will be the time where we get a real good gauge on Bowman.

- pri$ey


Just because Penner has looked good in the playoffs doesn't meant that he's a guy this team needs. Penner is just an expensive version of Bickell. Either player often doesn't show up for long stretches of time. At least Bickell hasn't injured himself while eating pancakes.
jhawk159
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 10.13.2009

May 25 @ 2:12 PM ET
Would that plan still allow for Suter? To get both they'd have to trade both Bolland and Hjalmarsson.

They'd still need a big body power forward..

Dustin Penner has looked awfully good for the Kings in the playoffs...

But a guy like that means no #2 center and Suter or #2 center/Penner and sticking with the same dcorps as now.

Then what about goalies?

This roster allows $1.94 cap space (assuming its the same next season)

Stalberg-Toews-Kane
Sharp-Plekanec-Hossa
Frolik-Kruger-Bickell
Carcillo-Shaw-Bollig
Hayes

Seabrook-Suter
Keith-Leddy
Montador-Olsen

Crawford
Emery


You could also go with Penner and Matt Carle while trying to trade Frolik and end up with 1.74 cap space.

There are a lot of options this off season. This will be the time where we get a real good gauge on Bowman.

- pri$ey


My concern is that if they trade Bolland can Kruger produce at least as much offense as Bolland. Bolland had 19 goals last season and Kruger 9. I know the third line is supposed to be the shut down line but after the first two lines where will the secondary scoring come from. If the playoff versions of Frolik and Bicks show up in the regular season they might be ok if they don't the Hawks will have a tough time.
pri$ey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Proud "Hawktard", NB
Joined: 05.17.2008

May 25 @ 2:20 PM ET
My concern is that if they trade Bolland can Kruger produce at least as much offense as Bolland. Bolland had 19 goals last season and Kruger 9. I know the third line is supposed to be the shut down line but after the first two lines where will the secondary scoring come from. If the playoff versions of Frolik and Bicks show up in the regular season they might be ok if they don't the Hawks will have a tough time.
- jhawk159


I share your concern.