But just tonight?
Because on Tuesday what was the problem?
- mr.peanut

The problem was the Gusti was in net.

He wasn't in net tonight. All things considered that's not even a discussion point. SJ has at the very least a bigger Dline than the forwards we can throw over the boards. We were very easy to neutralize

The problem was the Gusti was in net.

He wasn't in net tonight. All things considered that's not even a discussion point. SJ has at the very least a bigger Dline than the forwards we can throw over the boards. We were very easy to neutralize
- AngryWhiteMale

We hatin' on Da Monster again?

I think the team need a better number 1 centre. But waiting untill the off season is much better, because it would make holes in the line up giving up parts. While getting a goalie wouldn't do that, and getting a decent starter would help a lot.

okay people...especially all you hardcore gonna defend the Leafies to ur dying breath no matter how bad they stink ones.....let's take a brief 3 year history lesson now shall we.....3 years ago....late in the year, with the season already lost...the leafs go on a huge tear down the last few weeks of the season. Leaf fans, Burke, and Wilson all start spewing the koolaid about how they've turned the corner heading into a new year and next year will be an "improved and competative" leafs team. The team has the worst PK in the NHL, and the owrst goaltending /defensive numbers in the league as well....

2 years ago....the new and "improved Leafs" eliminated by Christmas time, once again go on an almighty tear in garbage time. Again they suck proverbial AZZ on PK, defence and goalie stats....yet Here's BOTH Burke and Wilson extolling the virtues of an ever younger, improved team that'll get em next year.....

Last year....with the team all but completely retooled under Burke's watch...again is all but eliminated by Christmas time, yet give the illusion of being "competative" and "improved" by going lights out with NO PRESSURE down the stretch in garbage time led by again another hot goalie in Reimer. Aagain they're right near the worst of the worst in PK, goals against and general defensive play DESPITE a completely new defence from 2 years earlier....

This year....a couple of good hot streaks early have the team hanging around a playoff spot. Difference thou from all the previous ones is that garbage time "means something this year" Suddenely the as Burke put it the last 2 years "best team in hockey down the stretch" can't win to save themselves.....again anchored down by bad goaltending AND sh#t PK and even worst defence......

all BUrke has done is convinced himself thru 3 years of lights out garbage time NO PRESSURE success, is his team is better then it actually is.....and this is BAD real REAL BAD for fans of TDOT. He extended the main cause for the Leafs suckage...Wilson, rewarding him for NOTHING but players playing for contracts anyways in nothing time with nothing on the line, and is poised to throw away EVERYTHING he's built for the sake of 2 measley playoff dates. Schenn, Colbourne, your 1st, Gunnerson (by far your most consistent Dman), maybe Gardiner are all in play for any big name that any GM will offer up.....all because Burke is too blind and stupid to Fire wilson and rebuild properly.....and mostly cause "Leaf nation" demands a playoff series" even though this team is nowhere near ready for one....If they're choking this bad with the pressure just to hang onto 8th, what happens when Burke throws away the future for a 4 game sweep against the rangers????

okay people...especially all you hardcore gonna defend the Leafies to ur dying breath no matter how bad they stink ones.....let's take a brief 3 year history lesson now shall we.....3 years ago....late in the year, with the season already lost...the leafs go on a huge tear down the last few weeks of the season. Leaf fans, Burke, and Wilson all start spewing the koolaid about how they've turned the corner heading into a new year and next year will be an "improved and competative" leafs team. The team has the worst PK in the NHL, and the owrst goaltending /defensive numbers in the league as well....

2 years ago....the new and "improved Leafs" eliminated by Christmas time, once again go on an almighty tear in garbage time. Again they suck proverbial AZZ on PK, defence and goalie stats....yet Here's BOTH Burke and Wilson extolling the virtues of an ever younger, improved team that'll get em next year.....

Last year....with the team all but completely retooled under Burke's watch...again is all but eliminated by Christmas time, yet give the illusion of being "competative" and "improved" by going lights out with NO PRESSURE down the stretch in garbage time led by again another hot goalie in Reimer. Aagain they're right near the worst of the worst in PK, goals against and general defensive play DESPITE a completely new defence from 2 years earlier....

This year....a couple of good hot streaks early have the team hanging around a playoff spot. Difference thou from all the previous ones is that garbage time "means something this year" Suddenely the as Burke put it the last 2 years "best team in hockey down the stretch" can't win to save themselves.....again anchored down by bad goaltending AND sh#t PK and even worst defence......

all BUrke has done is convinced himself thru 3 years of lights out garbage time NO PRESSURE success, is his team is better then it actually is.....and this is BAD real REAL BAD for fans of TDOT. He extended the main cause for the Leafs suckage...Wilson, rewarding him for NOTHING but players playing for contracts anyways in nothing time with nothing on the line, and is poised to throw away EVERYTHING he's built for the sake of 2 measley playoff dates. Schenn, Colbourne, your 1st, Gunnerson (by far your most consistent Dman), maybe Gardiner are all in play for any big name that any GM will offer up.....all because Burke is too blind and stupid to Fire wilson and rebuild properly.....and mostly cause "Leaf nation" demands a playoff series" even though this team is nowhere near ready for one....If they're choking this bad with the pressure just to hang onto 8th, what happens when Burke throws away the future for a 4 game sweep against the rangers????
- RichardPeterNuss

I didn't read this, but you probably put a lot of effort into it.

We hatin' on Da Monster again?

I think the team need a better number 1 centre. But waiting untill the off season is much better, because it would make holes in the line up giving up parts. While getting a goalie wouldn't do that, and getting a decent starter would help a lot.
- mr.peanut

A better number one center? That implies we had one to begin with.

Thanks, goaltending matters, no doubt, we're aware of that, and 70-80% of the time we're saying that is after Gusti's played.

But at the end of the day, if we don't have a no. 1 centre, then nothing matters. Kessel is a fantastic finisher, but is too easily neutralized when facing larger defenders in a structurally sound system.

Lupul has done a good job of playing tough, but that is nowhere near enough.

I still think with Carter and Richards on LA along with Brown, that Kopitar can be had for the right price.

%$#@ Nash. I'd love Nash, don't get me wrong, but we need a bloody centre. And I personally feel that with what LA's given up for Richards and Carter, we can definitely get maxmum value for our firsts as LA lost theirs last year for Penner, and this year for Carter, so they'll want to restock the cupboards.

I didn't read this, but you probably put a lot of effort into it.
- mr.peanut

I agree, a lot of heart, but really it just doesn't do a whole lot for us chaps

So rumor has it that Anderson cut is wrist because he plays for the sens.

okay people...especially all you hardcore gonna defend the Leafies to ur dying breath no matter how bad they stink ones.....let's take a brief 3 year history lesson now shall we.....3 years ago....late in the year, with the season already lost...the leafs go on a huge tear down the last few weeks of the season. Leaf fans, Burke, and Wilson all start spewing the koolaid about how they've turned the corner heading into a new year and next year will be an "improved and competative" leafs team. The team has the worst PK in the NHL, and the owrst goaltending /defensive numbers in the league as well....

2 years ago....the new and "improved Leafs" eliminated by Christmas time, once again go on an almighty tear in garbage time. Again they suck proverbial AZZ on PK, defence and goalie stats....yet Here's BOTH Burke and Wilson extolling the virtues of an ever younger, improved team that'll get em next year.....

Last year....with the team all but completely retooled under Burke's watch...again is all but eliminated by Christmas time, yet give the illusion of being "competative" and "improved" by going lights out with NO PRESSURE down the stretch in garbage time led by again another hot goalie in Reimer. Aagain they're right near the worst of the worst in PK, goals against and general defensive play DESPITE a completely new defence from 2 years earlier....

This year....a couple of good hot streaks early have the team hanging around a playoff spot. Difference thou from all the previous ones is that garbage time "means something this year" Suddenely the as Burke put it the last 2 years "best team in hockey down the stretch" can't win to save themselves.....again anchored down by bad goaltending AND sh#t PK and even worst defence......

all BUrke has done is convinced himself thru 3 years of lights out garbage time NO PRESSURE success, is his team is better then it actually is.....and this is BAD real REAL BAD for fans of TDOT. He extended the main cause for the Leafs suckage...Wilson, rewarding him for NOTHING but players playing for contracts anyways in nothing time with nothing on the line, and is poised to throw away EVERYTHING he's built for the sake of 2 measley playoff dates. Schenn, Colbourne, your 1st, Gunnerson (by far your most consistent Dman), maybe Gardiner are all in play for any big name that any GM will offer up.....all because Burke is too blind and stupid to Fire wilson and rebuild properly.....and mostly cause "Leaf nation" demands a playoff series" even though this team is nowhere near ready for one....If they're choking this bad with the pressure just to hang onto 8th, what happens when Burke throws away the future for a 4 game sweep against the rangers????
- RichardPeterNuss

Go read some of my earlier posts in the thread and you'll know exactly where I and many other Leafs fan stand...

So rumor has it that Anderson cut is wrist because he plays for the sens.
- yea-ok-buddy

As I said earlier, he's been bigger than karlsson this season, and nobody ahs realized it(I know it's hard to believe)

I think they're in a tough spot. It won't be Auld. He'll get a few spots, then it's Lehnar, a guy who I think could turnout like last year's Calder cup run for the Bingo Sens.

Hello from the Kanata

okay people...especially all you hardcore gonna defend the Leafies to ur dying breath no matter how bad they stink ones.....let's take a brief 3 year history lesson now shall we.....3 years ago....late in the year, with the season already lost...the leafs go on a huge tear down the last few weeks of the season. Leaf fans, Burke, and Wilson all start spewing the koolaid about how they've turned the corner heading into a new year and next year will be an "improved and competative" leafs team. The team has the worst PK in the NHL, and the owrst goaltending /defensive numbers in the league as well....

2 years ago....the new and "improved Leafs" eliminated by Christmas time, once again go on an almighty tear in garbage time. Again they suck proverbial AZZ on PK, defence and goalie stats....yet Here's BOTH Burke and Wilson extolling the virtues of an ever younger, improved team that'll get em next year.....

Last year....with the team all but completely retooled under Burke's watch...again is all but eliminated by Christmas time, yet give the illusion of being "competative" and "improved" by going lights out with NO PRESSURE down the stretch in garbage time led by again another hot goalie in Reimer. Aagain they're right near the worst of the worst in PK, goals against and general defensive play DESPITE a completely new defence from 2 years earlier....

This year....a couple of good hot streaks early have the team hanging around a playoff spot. Difference thou from all the previous ones is that garbage time "means something this year" Suddenely the as Burke put it the last 2 years "best team in hockey down the stretch" can't win to save themselves.....again anchored down by bad goaltending AND sh#t PK and even worst defence......

all BUrke has done is convinced himself thru 3 years of lights out garbage time NO PRESSURE success, is his team is better then it actually is.....and this is BAD real REAL BAD for fans of TDOT. He extended the main cause for the Leafs suckage...Wilson, rewarding him for NOTHING but players playing for contracts anyways in nothing time with nothing on the line, and is poised to throw away EVERYTHING he's built for the sake of 2 measley playoff dates. Schenn, Colbourne, your 1st, Gunnerson (by far your most consistent Dman), maybe Gardiner are all in play for any big name that any GM will offer up.....all because Burke is too blind and stupid to Fire wilson and rebuild properly.....and mostly cause "Leaf nation" demands a playoff series" even though this team is nowhere near ready for one....If they're choking this bad with the pressure just to hang onto 8th, what happens when Burke throws away the future for a 4 game sweep against the rangers????
- RichardPeterNuss

Hahaha this (frank)er again. Havent seen this guy in awhile

As I said earlier, he's been bigger than karlsson this season, and nobody ahs realized it(I know it's hard to believe)

I think they're in a tough spot. It won't be Auld. He'll get a few spots, then it's Lehnar, a guy who I think could turnout like last year's Calder cup run for the Bingo Sens.

Hello from the Kanata
- AngryWhiteMale

Sounds like Anderson was using a katana in Kanata, Canada

Question.

If the Leafs had a legit #1 goalie from the start of the season, how many more points do you think that the Leafs would have? 5 more points? 10 more points? 15 more points? How many?

Answer that question and then look where the Leafs would be in the standings...

Then ask yourself, "is a #1 goalie or a #1 center the priority?"

The answer should be pretty clear after this excerise.
- As_I_See_It

Nice (insert Randy Marsh's voice)! I'm with you buddy. Leafs need a goalie. Riemer is good but not good enough and if they had someone with Quick, Halak, Price, Rask capability then this team would easily be on top 5 in the east if not 4 with no need to worry about who is behind them. So Burke better smarten up, I say they tank, go and get a top 10 pick or top 5 pick. Move grabo for another 1st rounder and prospect if he can then make a package and go for Halak.

I hope they make up their minds on how they are going tp play. Either Burke goes for a #1 goalie and centre or they franking tank it. So pick one bastards and go to battle. Burke has been to relaxed this season even after seeing our goalies not doing what they are supposed to do, not letting a soft one in. And he needs to fire his buddy that's for sure, I hope he's gone by this morning. We need a goalie, and move Komi already or let him play and bring up his value instead of making him sit in the pressbox every night.