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woopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Location: "Rielly and Gardiner will be the next Keith and Seabrook."
Joined: 02.22.2011

Feb 20 @ 1:12 AM ET
,It is one thing to come in and word your statement as an opinion...you didn't, you stated it like it was an undeniable fact.
- OilHorse


You guys are nuts. So if I said, "The Canucks are better than the Bruins" would that count as trolling too? I didn't disclaim it by saying it was my opinion so I think it might confuse you.
woopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Location: "Rielly and Gardiner will be the next Keith and Seabrook."
Joined: 02.22.2011

Feb 20 @ 1:14 AM ET
Im not talking about tonight
Ok do you live in the same town that Sid from or around there?

- FiretheGM


Yes, I live in Halifax. Really close to Cole Harbour
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Feb 20 @ 1:14 AM ET
Gimme a break! Breaking news: Every post on this website is someone or others opinion! Look at Cloutier's blogs. Their all his opinion but written matter-of-factually. Sorry. We should make an amendment to the code of conduct here:

All opinions must be preceded by, "In my opinion..."

- woopstash

Cry a little moar.

When you're done, try and realize that a lot if things stated on this site really are unequivocal facts, ie: statistics. No one will ever put an 'imo' before that. Other things sais, like saying "player A is definitely player B", despite a lot of contrary evidence, is strictly opinion and will cause an argument 10 times out of 10. You can yap about 'wahhhh we all have to state its an opinion' if you like, but anyone with half a brain realizes the distinction between factual statements and subjective statements..including you. Now go get your (frank)in shine box.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Feb 20 @ 1:16 AM ET
You guys are nuts. So if I said, "The Canucks are better than the Bruins" would that count as trolling too? I didn't disclaim it by saying it was my opinion so I think it might confuse you.
- woopstash

No you're just trying to blab your way out of a clearly trolling statement by directing the convo onto other unrelated points.
FiretheGM
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.16.2011

Feb 20 @ 1:19 AM ET
Yes, I live in Halifax. Really close to Cole Harbour
- woopstash



That explains everything. Keep on trolling the free world.

Goodnight.
woopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Location: "Rielly and Gardiner will be the next Keith and Seabrook."
Joined: 02.22.2011

Feb 20 @ 1:20 AM ET
Cry a little moar.

When you're done, try and realize that a lot if things stated on this site really are unequivocal facts, ie: statistics. No one will ever put an 'imo' before that. Other things sais, like saying "player A is definitely player B", despite a lot of contrary evidence, is strictly opinion and will cause an argument 10 times out of 10. You can yap about 'wahhhh we all have to state its an opinion' if you like, but anyone with half a brain realizes the distinction between factual statements and subjective statements..including you. Now go get your (frank)in shine box.

- GuyLaDouche


Oh jeeze. The whole point of this website is to have "arguments" back and forth. Bloggers post their opinions (stated as fact) then us losers state our opinions (99% stated as fact). It's how it works.
EX: Today Cloutier posted a blog with a bunch of "facts" about Gagner and a trade that he said would be good for both sides. A bunch of people commented and said "This trade would suck for LA!" Notice how almost all of them didn't say "In my opinion, this trade would suck for LA!"
woopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Location: "Rielly and Gardiner will be the next Keith and Seabrook."
Joined: 02.22.2011

Feb 20 @ 1:21 AM ET
That explains everything. Keep on trolling the free world.

Goodnight.

- FiretheGM


Thanks, I'm completing a Master's Degree. I'll let you know when I'm working on my PhD like you then hopefully I'll be as smart as you.
woopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Location: "Rielly and Gardiner will be the next Keith and Seabrook."
Joined: 02.22.2011

Feb 20 @ 1:22 AM ET
No you're just trying to blab your way out of a clearly trolling statement by directing the convo onto other unrelated points.
- GuyLaDouche


You're hopeless. I could find a million examples of posts on here where people state their opinions the same way I stated mine.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Feb 20 @ 1:30 AM ET
You're hopeless. I could find a million examples of posts on here where people state their opinions the same way I stated mine.
- woopstash

You're still just trying to direct away from your pathetically obvious trolling by, like i said, focusing on other unrelated poop. Let's break it down:

-come into Oilers thread
-say Tyler Seguin is definitely better than Taylor Hall
-produce zero evidence to back this claim up
-act all surprised and butt hurt when Oilers fans in an Oilers thread proceed to roast you.
-focus on other things to deflect from your painfully obvious intentions.

Make sense now? Great. Now move on or (frank) off.
woopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Location: "Rielly and Gardiner will be the next Keith and Seabrook."
Joined: 02.22.2011

Feb 20 @ 1:34 AM ET
You're still just trying to direct away from your pathetically obvious trolling by, like i said, focusing on other unrelated poop. Let's break it down:

-come into Oilers thread
-say Tyler Seguin is definitely better than Taylor Hall
-produce zero evidence to back this claim up
-act all surprised and butt hurt when Oilers fans in an Oilers thread proceed to roast you.
-focus on other things to deflect from your painfully obvious intentions.

Make sense now? Great. Now move on or (frank) off.

- GuyLaDouche


Produced zero evidence?! AHAHHA did you even read what I posted?
They have very similar points/game over their careers yet Hall plays WAY MORE than Seguin! There's your evidence, Einstein. After that you guys just kept calling me troll cause you didn't have a counter argument.
IN MY OPINION (and a lot of others) Seguin is better than Hall. There. Sorry I confused you so much in the first place by not stating this was just my opinion and not an actual fact that everybody in the hockey world agrees with. There you go. A simple opinion that I'm sure even you can understand.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Feb 20 @ 1:37 AM ET
Produced zero evidence?! AHAHHA did you even read what I posted?
They have very similar points/game over their careers yet Hall plays WAY MORE than Seguin! There's your evidence, Einstein. After that you guys just kept calling me troll cause you didn't have a counter argument.
IN MY OPINION (and a lot of others) Seguin is better than Hall. There. Sorry I confused you so much in the first place by not stating this was just my opinion and not an actual fact that everybody in the hockey world agrees with.

- woopstash

And the deflection continues. Your "evidence" was already refuted by other posters so I won't bother going through the details again. Congrats on winning the internetz.
woopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Location: "Rielly and Gardiner will be the next Keith and Seabrook."
Joined: 02.22.2011

Feb 20 @ 1:40 AM ET
And the deflection continues. Your "evidence" was already refuted by other posters so I won't bother going through the details again. Congrats on winning the internetz.
- GuyLaDouche


I restated my opinion. How is that deflecting?
You know their arguments sucked and you've got nothing better. It's a simple solution: It's called disagreeing. It's apparently a foreign concept to you guys. Anybody with an outsiders opinion is dubbed a troll. I said it before and I'll say it again, Seguin is better than Hall and you guys have done nothing to prove otherwise. Thanks for the laughs.
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:28 AM ET
I restated my opinion. How is that deflecting?
You know their arguments sucked and you've got nothing better. It's a simple solution: It's called disagreeing. It's apparently a foreign concept to you guys. Anybody with an outsiders opinion is dubbed a troll. I said it before and I'll say it again, Seguin is better than Hall and you guys have done nothing to prove otherwise. Thanks for the laughs.

- woopstash


I got a better ppg % that says you are indeed an idiot...playing more minutes (about 1:20 more) on a team that does not have the depth that a team like the bruins have, against teh oppositions best defensive line add to the proof that what you say is not true.

Hall: better ppg% against opposing Top D.

Seguin: lower ppg% playing on a deeper team to gather softer minutes while playing opposite lower end defensive lines.

I ain't dissing Seguin...he's a gooder...but to come into an Oiler friendly area and say what you said for no reason is proof positive that you are trolling.

FYI: Trolling is the act in making a statement to induce an emotional response.

So did you think that you would come in here saying that would just garner a hockey discussion? Maybe in another team's area...maybe even the Bruins area...but to say it here it is obvious what kind of response you will receive.

And to not realize that means you are not just a Troll, but a stupid Troll also.
whosyodaddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: well that was fun
Joined: 08.06.2011

Feb 20 @ 1:34 PM ET
13 of 26 games played...I remember he was sat at least once for poor play...So as I said he was not a major reason they won the cup.

Just like people talk about how Gagner's season stats are skewed due to his 8 point game, so is Seguin's playoffs due to a game where he got 3 or 4 points...so he had 3 or 4 points in his 12 games...

Marchand, Chara, Thomas...etc...these guys were the reason that the B's won...

- OilHorse


They might not make it past TB if Seguin doesn't have that monster game against them. I'd say he was a key contributor for that reason alone.
marty11
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 01.05.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:35 PM ET
They might not make it past TB if Seguin doesn't have that monster game against them. I'd say he was a key contributor for that reason alone.
- whosyodaddy

Okay. Key contributor in one game, and it was more low one period........the rest he kind of just showed up.
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:36 PM ET
They might not make it past TB if Seguin doesn't have that monster game against them. I'd say he was a key contributor for that reason alone.
- whosyodaddy


Maybe...maybe not...that is speculative...what isn't is that he played very little and was basically a non-factor...