Drury was the Real Captian and yes Peca was a very good captain.
- Full Throttle

point is they went just as far the next year with out the 2 headed monster , well not as many games in the ECF

and while Peca was a very good captain, those teams were "Hasek and 18 guys named Donald" as the Canadians coach pointed out

and this means what exactly to Buffalo?? That if he could win somewhere else then he would have done it here? Sorry, doesn't work that way.

As another Sabre poster said a bit ago, Ruff almost won it with a few good players...but to me that's not Ruff's doing, that's the players (Hasek and the two that got away).
- stashu

I feel we were 1 Peca away from winning it all. Too bad Pegs wasn't the owner then.

i think so too, Ithat's why I would move Roy and see what happens with Stafford

reality is that they are probably a package deal
- billyk

"Package" being the key word with those two.

When the Sabres had a strong capatin, the sabres were good
- Full Throttle

The notion that a room full of grown men follow the lead of one individual is silly. The Sabres stink right now because they are playing terrible hockey and they just aren't very good

I'm writing a long one here...

Even when we had the great roster including Drury and Briere, we still lacked defensive poise, and still didn't win a cup. I'm sick of hearing the injury excuses for that year. I'm sick of hearing the injury excuses now. Fact is, Lindy's players always get hurt. That comes down to conditioning, and... coaching. More importantly, it's his job to get his player's heads in the game. When people say it's the players' fault for lacking heart, that's his responsibility to inspire them. It's his fault that none of them listen to his message, and are always in downtown Buffalo drinking til 2am+ before a game the next day. No wonder we can't win home games.

Lindy has some huge issues I've always harped on him for:

One - As soon as he gets a lead, the team's forecheck changes to a defensive system, waiting for the other team at the neutral zone. We like to call this a trap. It used to work well in the 90s, and for teams that rhyme with Nevils and Tightening. However, his players are never suited to work this system.

Two - Nearly the same thing. Lindy has a TOUGH time changing his philosophy to match the roster he has. How many players have we brought in through trade, or rookies we bring up through our farm team have looked GREAT when they get here, just to start lacking when they get "Lindified" 10 games later? Just recently guys like Myers, Ennis, Kassian (just to name a few) looked better as immediate rookies rather than seasoned players. It shouldn't be like that. They should make better decisions as they develop, not lose half their stride and fall into slumps as soon as they start buying into Lindy's coaching.

Three - Lines/Goaltending Management. Wow. No coach I've ever played for or seen in the NHL handles his lines like Lindy. It's amazing (even when guys are healthy) to see a line stay together for 3 straight games. He never lets guys build chemistry with each other. Only this year have we seen Pommers with Vanek for extended periods of time, and guess what? They are doing very well together. Yeah sometimes guys have bad games and don't click for a few shifts. That's not reason to split them up or to bench them and roll your 3rd and 4th liners for half the game.
Then how he's handled guys like Biron/Miller/Enroth is absolutely horrible. I am a goalie, and know how it feels to put a load on. All I can say is that he's never done it the right way so that his goalie is fresh at the end of the year. Then to publicly call out his goaltender on multiple occasions is not the way to get them to respond well, especially a technically obsessed guy like Miller. He just doesn't know goaltending at all.

Four - Special Teams. The only good thing I can give to him is his Penalty Killing system. It works, and works well. We are consistently one of the better teams to kill them off. However, the PP... is bad, and always has been under his reign. The only time it was active and when we could actually expect offensive production with the man advantage was when he didn't control it. I forgot the name of the coach we lost who managed it, but it was never the same since he left, and Lindy has trouble even coaching his men to gain entry in the zone much less getting them moving around the perimeter. Players have to move with the man-up, not just sit in one spot around the circles waiting for a pass.

Five - There's so much more but I've written too much.

I'm not concerned how many times Lindy gets a team to the playoffs, just to be booted out every time. We got a president's trophy. Okay, a different team won the actual trophy that we wanted that year. I'm just sick of seeing a different looking roster every year, but the same excuses for losing games like injuries and not being able to play a full 60min. That all goes on the coach's shoulders. Maybe if he's actually won something, I'd give him some slack He's had way too many different players here and been given chance after chance of adapting but he refuses to change his style of coaching, which is old and slow, and most of all - uninspiring.

point is they went just as far the next year with out the 2 headed monster , well not as many games in the ECF

and while Peca was a very good captain, those teams were "Hasek and 18 guys named Donald" as the Canadians coach pointed out
- billyk

It is amazing what good goaltending can do

point is they went just as far the next year with out the 2 headed monster , well not as many games in the ECF

and while Peca was a very good captain, those teams were "Hasek and 18 guys named Donald" as the Canadians coach pointed out
- billyk

You keep Peca and Drury you maintain that level of play for more than one year. I'll say it again, you keep Peca (and Drury) you have 2 cups on the shelf.

The notion that a room full of grown men follow the lead of one individual is silly. The Sabres stink right now because they are playing terrible hockey and they just aren't very good
- mccrisp

You are very naive to think that grown men don't look for someone to lead/guild them.

You keep Peca and Drury you maintain that level of play for more than one year. I'll say it again, you keep Peca (and Drury) you have 2 cups on the shelf.
- Full Throttle

We don't dress Amerks for our D in game 7 of the ECF, we have a cup, THAT was our year.

You are very naive to think that grown men don't look for someone to lead/guild them.
- Full Throttle

You have it backwards

You keep Peca and Drury you maintain that level of play for more than one year. I'll say it again, you keep Peca (and Drury) you have 2 cups on the shelf.
- Full Throttle

Nothing like throwing out impossible to prove hypotheticals as facts

I'm writing a long one here...


- dhasek00

Thanks for the warning...I stopped right there

[quote=dhasek00]I'm writing a long one here...

quote]


I only read this "slow, and most of all - uninspiring. "

And In will assume thats all I needed to.

Your blaming your poor record on Lindy?


You've had alot of injuries and your depth players are underperforming. How is that Lindy's fault?

Plus Tyler Ennis has been injured pretty much the whole season, he's a big part of your team. Scores timely goals.

Maybe your team will do the stupid thing and fire Lindy after you lose to the Leafs on Friday. Most coaches get fired after losing to us
- t_leafs21

this is what i deal with all the time. whether it's at work, family, friends or other, it's Ruff, Ruff, and oh yeah, RUFF.

sure, they agree there were injuries, but they only want to give 10% of the blame to that reason. it's as if Lindy should be able to win a cup with Rochester's players. hello, if they were good enough to win cups they wouldn't be in Rochester in the first place. i have days where i'm over-the-top pissed about this team, but as far as i'm concerned, Lindy is the least of the worries here. once they Sabres are back to being considerably more healthy, they need to work on getting a new GM to give the coach better assets and if that can't be done, Darcy needs to have his feet held to the fire if this isn't already the case.

...Four - Special Teams. The only good thing I can give to him is his Penalty Killing system. It works, and works well. We are consistently one of the better teams to kill them off. However, the PP... is bad, and always has been under his reign. The only time it was active and when we could actually expect offensive production with the man advantage was when he didn't control it. I forgot the name of the coach we lost who managed it, but it was never the same since he left, and Lindy has trouble even coaching his men to gain entry in the zone much less getting them moving around the perimeter. Players have to move with the man-up, not just sit in one spot around the circles waiting for a pass.
- dhasek00

the coach we lost was Scott Arniel

sorry if stated already...buff news asked Lindy if he had in fact signed a 7 year deal..he said not even close.
Speculated it was a 3 year with option for fourth.

sorry if stated already...buff news asked Lindy if he had in fact signed a 7 year deal..he said not even close.
Speculated it was a 3 year with option for fourth.
- rechlin

Really, though, contract lengths for coaches in pro sports are meaningless, anyway. He could sign a 45-year deal, but the second the GM/owner wants him out, he's gone. I wouldn't read ANYTHING into the length of his contract.

Really, though, contract lengths for coaches in pro sports are meaningless, anyway. He could sign a 45-year deal, but the second the GM/owner wants him out, he's gone. I wouldn't read ANYTHING into the length of his contract.
- Urethra Franklin

still need to pay out..no?

still need to pay out..no?
- rechlin

Yeah, that's the only issue.

Yeah, that's the only issue.
- Urethra Franklin

well this is again hockey hell..I mean hockey heaven. Anything possible i guess

I'm writing a long one here...

Even when we had the great roster including Drury and Briere, we still lacked defensive poise, and still didn't win a cup. I'm sick of hearing the injury excuses for that year. I'm sick of hearing the injury excuses now. Fact is, Lindy's players always get hurt. That comes down to conditioning, and... coaching. More importantly, it's his job to get his player's heads in the game. When people say it's the players' fault for lacking heart, that's his responsibility to inspire them. It's his fault that none of them listen to his message, and are always in downtown Buffalo drinking til 2am+ before a game the next day. No wonder we can't win home games.

Lindy has some huge issues I've always harped on him for:

One - As soon as he gets a lead, the team's forecheck changes to a defensive system, waiting for the other team at the neutral zone. We like to call this a trap. It used to work well in the 90s, and for teams that rhyme with Nevils and Tightening. However, his players are never suited to work this system.

Two - Nearly the same thing. Lindy has a TOUGH time changing his philosophy to match the roster he has. How many players have we brought in through trade, or rookies we bring up through our farm team have looked GREAT when they get here, just to start lacking when they get "Lindified" 10 games later? Just recently guys like Myers, Ennis, Kassian (just to name a few) looked better as immediate rookies rather than seasoned players. It shouldn't be like that. They should make better decisions as they develop, not lose half their stride and fall into slumps as soon as they start buying into Lindy's coaching.

Three - Lines/Goaltending Management. Wow. No coach I've ever played for or seen in the NHL handles his lines like Lindy. It's amazing (even when guys are healthy) to see a line stay together for 3 straight games. He never lets guys build chemistry with each other. Only this year have we seen Pommers with Vanek for extended periods of time, and guess what? They are doing very well together. Yeah sometimes guys have bad games and don't click for a few shifts. That's not reason to split them up or to bench them and roll your 3rd and 4th liners for half the game.
Then how he's handled guys like Biron/Miller/Enroth is absolutely horrible. I am a goalie, and know how it feels to put a load on. All I can say is that he's never done it the right way so that his goalie is fresh at the end of the year. Then to publicly call out his goaltender on multiple occasions is not the way to get them to respond well, especially a technically obsessed guy like Miller. He just doesn't know goaltending at all.

Four - Special Teams. The only good thing I can give to him is his Penalty Killing system. It works, and works well. We are consistently one of the better teams to kill them off. However, the PP... is bad, and always has been under his reign. The only time it was active and when we could actually expect offensive production with the man advantage was when he didn't control it. I forgot the name of the coach we lost who managed it, but it was never the same since he left, and Lindy has trouble even coaching his men to gain entry in the zone much less getting them moving around the perimeter. Players have to move with the man-up, not just sit in one spot around the circles waiting for a pass.

Five - There's so much more but I've written too much.

I'm not concerned how many times Lindy gets a team to the playoffs, just to be booted out every time. We got a president's trophy. Okay, a different team won the actual trophy that we wanted that year. I'm just sick of seeing a different looking roster every year, but the same excuses for losing games like injuries and not being able to play a full 60min. That all goes on the coach's shoulders. Maybe if he's actually won something, I'd give him some slack He's had way too many different players here and been given chance after chance of adapting but he refuses to change his style of coaching, which is old and slow, and most of all - uninspiring.
- dhasek00

Oh come on, tell us how you really feel.

i do not think lindy will get fired in season, for 1 if they wait until the end of the month it would be to late, if at the end of the month they are in a position that they need to fire him it doesnt matter what coach comes in they wont make the playoffs anyways, i think terry will let lindy finish off the season and than let him go

and this means what exactly to Buffalo?? That if he could win somewhere else then he would have done it here? Sorry, doesn't work that way.

As another Sabre poster said a bit ago, Ruff almost won it with a few good players...but to me that's not Ruff's doing, that's the players (Hasek and the two that got away).
- stashu

That's makes no sense to me. So when they were doing well, it was all the players work, but not Ruff's doing. Now the players aren't doing well and it's on Ruff.