one side gets their money from people freely giving it to them and the other side not so much
- molly2522

Wait, who is who? I think people give their money more ''freely'' to the blackhawks than they do taxes.

So the manipulated and planned lockout to lose games is now being offered back as an incentive for an agreement. Take this offer to get a full season or continue risking losing the part or the whole season. I must say that is clever. Get what they want with no games lost.

I suspect the players will say nice try but.....
- bogiedoc

LOUD AND CLEAR....

http://www.csnchicago.com...blockID=790529&feedID=661

LOUD AND CLEAR....

http://www.csnchicago.com...blockID=790529&feedID=661
- bogiedoc

I'm officially tired of all of it - and of the posturing on both sides - I don't know who's right, I don't care who's right - they're both wrong for not sitting together and actually negotiating for hours instead of presenting proposals, blasting the other side, and ending the talks.

I was all set to move from thinking the players are in the right to siding with the owners after the league's "50/50" proposal - UNTIL Bettman just (apparently) dismissed the union's three counters and ended the talks: you really mean, Mr. Bettman, that there is NOTHING in what the union proposed that can be the basis for negotiations?

Mr. Toews, understand tha you will lose about $800,000 for every ten games cancelled - don't just dismiss the league's proposal as public relations - is there really nothing in there that can be a starting point?

Phuck!!!!!!!!!

I'm officially tired of all of it - and of the posturing on both sides - I don't know who's right, I don't care who's right - they're both wrong for not sitting together and actually negotiating for hours instead of presenting proposals, blasting the other side, and ending the talks.

I was all set to move from thinking the players are in the right to siding with the owners after the league's "50/50" proposal - UNTIL Bettman just (apparently) dismissed the union's three counters and ended the talks: you really mean, Mr. Bettman, that there is NOTHING in what the union proposed that can be the basis for negotiations?

Mr. Toews, understand tha you will lose about $800,000 for every ten games cancelled - don't just dismiss the league's proposal as public relations - is there really nothing in there that can be a starting point?

Phuck!!!!!!!!!
- StLBravesFan

I will second that!!! Where is Philco when you need him!!

ffffuuuuccccckkkkkkkkk

Hogs report coming tomorrow, will update a couple of prospects also and offer my .02 on where the labor issue is (no surprises, I still think the season starts around 12/1).

Hogs report coming tomorrow, will update a couple of prospects also and offer my .02 on where the labor issue is (no surprises, I still think the season starts around 12/1).
- John Jaeckel

OK, so you've been beating this drum for some time.

It sort of makes sense based on the premises; though I personally disagree, I think the NHL is shooting themselves in the foot.

What's your deadline date for a deal for a 12/1 season start? 11/1?? What about number of games? 60?