Peter Tessier: The Case For Enstrom… to be traded to Edmonton Is there too much potential synergy between the Oilers and Jets not to make this deal?

Nope nice thought thoe.

How about
EDM: Byfuglien and Kane Wpg 1st
WPG: Yakupov Hemsky Edm 2nd

now that sounds much better than Enstrom and Burmistrov for Yaks.

Edm: Enstrom, Kane, 3rd

Winn: MPS, Omark, Smid, 2nd

How about
EDM: Byfuglien and Kane Wpg 1st
WPG: Yakupov Hemsky Edm 2nd

now that sounds much better than Enstrom and Burmistrov for Yaks.
- Oil Tycoon

Way too much for Winnipeg to give up and too many question marks coming back.

Edm: Enstrom, Kane, 3rd

Winn: MPS, Omark, Smid, 2nd
- jonathonpeddle

Where do we sign?

Enstrom to Edmonton makes little sense, especially if the #1 is on the table. We can't afford to be taking a UFA. Now if Kane was coming too, then we'd have something to talk about. Maybe.

Way too much for Winnipeg to give up and too many question marks coming back.
- Oneonta Penguin

Well the only way the 1st overall pick is traded is with an overpayment which means Kane is a must as well as one of there top 3 dmen. Of course the Oilers will have to add to the deal to make it fair and when I say add I mean anyone except Hall,RNH, or Eberle.

Well the only way the 1st overall pick is trades is with an overpayment which means Kane is a must as well as one of there top 3 dmen. Of course the Oilers will have to add to the deal to make it fair and when I say add I mean anyone except Hall,RNH, or Eberle.
- Oil Tycoon

Kane is young and a soon to be bonafide star. Why trade that along with one of your best blueliners for the next potential Pavel Bure, an enigmatic soft Euro with a high price tag relative to production and a second? You are making it sound like Yakupov is already Bure with these outlandish ideas.

There is a difference between overpayment and foolishness. That deal DOESN'T help Winnipeg. It makes them worse.

Id rather try to sign him as a FA next year than get him for one year and see him leave

I would take Enstrom in Vancouver...

1st, 2nd, and Rodin for Enstrom... Deal or no deal?

Kane is young and a soon to be bonafide star. Why trade that along with one of your best blueliners for the next potential Pavel Bure, an enigmatic soft Euro with a high price tag relative to production and a second? You are making it sound like Yakupov is already Bure with these outlandish ideas.

There is a difference between overpayment and foolishness. That deal DOESN'T help Winnipeg. It makes them worse.
- Oneonta Penguin

I personally have no desire to trade the pick what so ever so if for what ever reason they do trade the pick I would only be happy if the return was similar to what I suggested. I would rather address team weakness by trading anyone not in the big 4 and UFA signings.

How about
EDM: Byfuglien and Kane Wpg 1st
WPG: Yakupov Hemsky Edm 2nd

now that sounds much better than Enstrom and Burmistrov for Yaks.
- Oil Tycoon

I pray this doesnt happen

I personally have no desire to trade the pick what so ever so if for what ever reason they do trade the pick I would only be happy if the return was similar to what I suggested. I would rather address team weakness by trading anyone not in the big 4 and UFA signings.
- Oil Tycoon

That is fine ... keep the pick. He doesn't help you fill the glaring weaknesses in your lineup.

Bottom line, people think this guy is already Bure and will come in and score 45 goals and 80 points as a rookie. I think people who suggest getting something like this back just to get the right to draft him are a bit out of touch. Kane is going to get alot better as well and that is 100 combined points the Jets would have to find somewhere else, not to mention another offensive-minded blueliner and one of the best young power forwards in the game.

That is fine ... keep the pick. He doesn't help you fill the glaring weaknesses in your lineup.

Bottom line, people think this guy is already Bure and will come in and score 45 goals and 80 points as a rookie. I think people who suggest getting something like this back just to get the right to draft him are a bit out of touch. Kane is going to get alot better as well and that is 100 combined points the Jets would have to find somewhere else, not to mention another offensive-minded blueliner and one of the best young power forwards in the game.
- Oneonta Penguin

Neither does trading away a pick just for the sake of making the defense better. Enstrom for one year isn't worth 10-15 years of a #1 pick.

Neither does trading away a pick just for the sake of making the defense better. Enstrom for one year isn't worth 10-15 years of a #1 pick.
- Lahey

I wasn't talking about Enstrom. I was talking about a trade idea suggested that I thought was utterly ridiculous.

Edm: Enstrom, Kane, 3rd

Winn: MPS, Omark, Smid, 2nd
- jonathonpeddle

Do the Jets at least get a reach around?

I wasn't talking about Enstrom. I was talking about a trade idea suggested that I thought was utterly ridiculous.
- Oneonta Penguin

I wouldn't call it "utterly ridiculous", Kane is RFA now. and will be looking for a big pay after netting 30g.

An error on my part is that I did not qualify that the offers I presented are a starting point for 'discussion'. They are scenarios to illustrate what could be done and pieces could be added later.

Remember both teams are building and to build you have to look forward.

As for the idea of getting Enstrom for free... How successful has Edmonton been in recruiting the pieces it needs via FAs. Winnipeg may see similar challenges.

I wouldn't call it "utterly ridiculous", Kane is RFA now. and will be looking for a big pay after netting 30g.
- OilHorse

So, wouldn't it make sense for Winnipeg to resign him instead of dealing their best player along with a puck moving defenseman and a pick to Edmonton for a chance to get someone who has Bure capabilities and an enigma? I wouldn't take that chance. I know what I have in Kane and Buff. I know what you get with Hemsky and it doesn't help. I don't know what you get with Yakupov. You could get a Bure, but which one? Big difference.

Edm: Enstrom, Kane, 3rd

Winn: MPS, Omark, Smid, 2nd
- jonathonpeddle

Longbottom Alt account?

Enstrom is their best player by a mile. I didn't even read, but you can't get him.

Jets won't trade Kane straight up for Yakupov. He is going to be their franchise forward. But I do like Enstrom on the Oilers. Solid player, he would mesh with the young guns.

An error on my part is that I did not qualify that the offers I presented are a starting point for 'discussion'. They are scenarios to illustrate what could be done and pieces could be added later.

Remember both teams are building and to build you have to look forward.

As for the idea of getting Enstrom for free... How successful has Edmonton been in recruiting the pieces it needs via FAs. Winnipeg may see similar challenges.
- Peter.Tessier

Well we haven't really tried lately and we did try last year and were succesful with finding a 3rd line center who can play PK/win draws, along with a gritty bottom 6 forward.

I don't know that we'll be able to sign one of the defense UFA's this year, but that's not a reason to be pissing around moving a valuable piece such as the #1 pick. We have a lot of other assets that can be used to get defensive help.

If we are going after a guy with just one year left. Not much more than a 2nd rounder will be dealt.

Another option is to look at a player who is overpaid with more than one year left and hope the team is willing to move him for less than market value.

Well the only way the 1st overall pick is traded is with an overpayment which means Kane is a must as well as one of there top 3 dmen. Of course the Oilers will have to add to the deal to make it fair and when I say add I mean anyone except Hall,RNH, or Eberle.
- Oil Tycoon

Come on. Yakupov is good, but be serious. Kane AND Enstrom/Bogosian/Byfuglien? WPG will laugh and hang up.