Can you update this?
- prock

Team - Chance to make playoffs

Boston - 96.4 %
Toronto - 71.1 %
Buffalo - 65.9 %
Montreal - 40.0 %
Ottawa - 21.1 %

http://www.sportsclubstat...HL/Eastern/Northeast.html

Team - Chance to make playoffs

Boston - 96.4 %
Toronto - 71.1 %
Buffalo - 65.9 %
Montreal - 40.0 %
Ottawa - 21.1 %

http://www.sportsclubstat...HL/Eastern/Northeast.html
- daeth

Can you elaborate? Does this mean Toronto is closer to Boston and Buffalo for the division lead than they are to basement dwellers Ottawa?

Can you elaborate? Does this mean Toronto is closer to Boston and Buffalo for the division lead than they are to basement dwellers Ottawa?
- prock

A quick look at today's standings shows this to be almost accurate - Boston and Buffalo are actually between Toronto and Ottawa in the standings (and this beyond the quarter mark, which is a great sign for your Leafies). I'm not sure how Montreal has almost twice the chance of making the playoffs as my poor Sens (from a formulaic point of view), but it looks accurate to me.

If your post was actually Dopplebait, then I'll just call you a Leaftard so at least you get a little taste...

A quick look at today's standings shows this to be almost accurate - Boston and Buffalo are actually between Toronto and Ottawa in the standings (and this beyond the quarter mark, which is a great sign for your Leafies). I'm not sure how Montreal has almost twice the chance of making the playoffs as my poor Sens (from a formulaic point of view), but it looks accurate to me.

If your post was actually Dopplebait, then I'll just call you a Leaftard so at least you get a little taste...
- Mr_Squeaks

Of course it was bait. prock knows where the Senators are in relationship to his beloved leafs, it's the team he loves to hate and is obsessed with them.

But re-visiting a pre-season prediction is fair game. With that in mind the Senators are playing much better than most predicted, and seem to be improving as the season rolls along. Not going to make the playoffs though, but they're much further along the re-building road than expected.

sens arent nearly as pathetic as most thought they would be ... but they are still a long ways away from competing... nothing a top 4 pick wont fix

sens arent nearly as pathetic as most thought they would be ... but they are still a long ways away from competing... nothing a top 4 pick wont fix
- nightmare3020

Unless they win the Lottery and move up four spots like the Devils did, I'm guessing they'll be picking somewhere in the 8th to 12th spot at the entry draft.

Unless they win the Lottery and move up four spots like the Devils did, I'm guessing they'll be picking somewhere in the 8th to 12th spot at the entry draft.
- Doppleganger

We wont get a high pick ,we would lose the number 1 overall even if we where the worst team in the league.We just seem to have bad luck with this and the one time we won a draft lottery we drafted Brian Lee.

We wont get a high pick ,we would lose the number 1 overall even if we where the worst team in the league.We just seem to have bad luck with this and the one time we won a draft lottery we drafted Brian Lee.
- top shelf 15

The season before the Senators drafted Lee, they finished 6th overall, and ended up selecting 9th at the Entry Draft.

Pittsburgh won that Lottery by virtue of being the last to be selected.

So we didn't win the lottery, but moved up 16 spots because of the unorthodox lottery formula that year.

The season before the Senators drafted Lee, they finished 6th overall, and ended up selecting 9th at the Entry Draft.

Pittsburgh won that Lottery by virtue of being the last to be selected.So we didn't win the lottery, but moved up 16 spots because of the unorthodox lottery formula that year.
- Doppleganger

Pittsburg won that lottery becuase they where crying about leaving plain and simple ,it was fixed right from the word go

The season before the Senators drafted Lee, they finished 6th overall, and ended up selecting 9th at the Entry Draft.

Pittsburgh won that Lottery by virtue of being the last to be selected.

So we didn't win the lottery, but moved up 16 spots because of the unorthodox lottery formula that year.
- Doppleganger

I probably shouldn't say this, but didn't the Penguins win that lottery by being the FIRST to be selected? TSN simply presented the results in reverse order because nobody cares who ends up at #30?

In any case... that 9th overall was a pick that SHOULD have added a very strong piece to our very good team. It's not Lee's fault that he was drafted where he was, or plays at the pedestrian-level that he does, but man, the What Ifs from that draft...

I probably shouldn't say this, but didn't the Penguins win that lottery by being the FIRST to be selected? TSN simply presented the results in reverse order because nobody cares who ends up at #30?

In any case... that 9th overall was a pick that SHOULD have added a very strong piece to our very good team. It's not Lee's fault that he was drafted where he was, or plays at the pedestrian-level that he does, but man, the What Ifs from that draft...
- Mr_Squeaks

We should have played the "If we cant get another superstar we are leaving card" it worked for pittsburg

Of course it was bait. prock knows where the Senators are in relationship to his beloved leafs, it's the team he loves to hate and is obsessed with them.

But re-visiting a pre-season prediction is fair game. With that in mind the Senators are playing much better than most predicted, and seem to be improving as the season rolls along. Not going to make the playoffs though, but they're much further along the re-building road than expected.
- Doppleganger

"Baiting?" No. This entire thread is a baiting attempt, directed at Leaf fans, on your part. The post I referenced was your little attempt to chirp about the Leafs being closer to the Sens than the division lead. Despite the fact that, even at the time, in terms of points and the standings, it wasn't true. You were trying to use their odds of making the playoffs (by one particular methodology).

My post was a little "eat shyt and die" response, as even THAT isn't true at this time. The Sens are still the bottom feeding crap of the division. the Leafs? Miles and miles better.

"Baiting?" No. This entire thread is a baiting attempt, directed at Leaf fans, on your part. The post I referenced was your little attempt to chirp about the Leafs being closer to the Sens than the division lead. Despite the fact that, even at the time, in terms of points and the standings, it wasn't true. You were trying to use their odds of making the playoffs (by one particular methodology).

My post was a little "eat shyt and die" response, as even THAT isn't true at this time. The Sens are still the bottom feeding crap of the division. the Leafs? Miles and miles better.
- prock

Hummmmmmm, "Bottom feeding"???? "Miles and miles better"????

A quick look at today's standing in the Division, shows all teams have played 24 games each, except for Boston with 22.

I see Montreal at the bottom of the standings, and toronto miles and miles better than Ottawa by Two more wins than Ottawa.

Perhaps there is a difference between what "miles and miles" means in toronto, than what it means in Ottawa.

Hummmmmmm, "Bottom feeding"???? "Miles and miles better"????

A quick look at today's standing in the Division, shows all teams have played 24 games each, except for Boston with 22.

I see Montreal at the bottom of the standings, and toronto miles and miles better than Ottawa by Two more wins than Ottawa.

Perhaps there is a difference between what "miles and miles" means in toronto, than what it means in Ottawa.
- Doppleganger

What are your precious playoff odds now? You seemed to cling to them so tightly before.

What are your precious playoff odds now? You seemed to cling to them so tightly before.
- prock

We're close enough to 30% to tickle it's nuts. Leafs are still at helmet-level with 72.5%...

We're close enough to 30% to tickle it's nuts. Leafs are still at helmet-level with 72.5%...
- Mr_Squeaks

Damn. You guys are clearly getting the shaft.

Damn. You guys are clearly getting the shaft.
- prock

The club-stats guys have us by the short 'n curlies...

What are your precious playoff odds now? You seemed to cling to them so tightly before.
- prock

In what sense? I've clearly said from the start that the Sens are not playoff bound.

Ottawa hit rock bottom last season, and the reboot button was pushed prior to the trading deadline. They should only be competitive with the one other team in the division, neither of which should be making plans for a playoff berth.
- Doppleganger

I also pegged the leafs to just miss or barely make the playoffs. It was a prediction before the season started.

You made your fair share of predictions, how are they working out? Let's look at what you said about Michalek.

He's not a top 6 forward. No matter how you want to spin things. I wouldn't take Michalek over any single one of those guys. He hasn't done SQUAT since he lost Thornton as a centre.
- prock

Also this one.

The Sens are a basement team, and don't stand a hope in hell in even making the playoffs. They've got what is quite possibly the worst roster in the league.
- prock

3rd overall BOSTON .659
9th overall toronto .625
17th overall BUFFALO .563
20th overall OTTAWA .542
23rd overall MONTREAL .500

In what sense? I've clearly said from the start that the Sens are not playoff bound.


- Doppleganger

This shouldn't be hard to figure out. Even for you. You claimed the Leafs would be closer to the Sens than the rest of the division. You tried pointing out that the chances for the Leafs, according to that site, were pegged at 40%, which was closer to the Sens at 20%, than the Bruins and Sabres, as some attempt at saying you were right. Despite the fact that the Leafs were closer to the Bruins/Sabres in the standings, at the time.

Fast forward a couple of weeks, and the Leafs are a hell of a lot closer to the Bruins/Sabres than they are to the basement Sens, even in terms of the sports club stats odds. Oh, and lead the division.

This shouldn't be hard to figure out. Even for you. You claimed the Leafs would be closer to the Sens than the rest of the division. You tried pointing out that the chances for the Leafs, according to that site, were pegged at 40%, which was closer to the Sens at 20%, than the Bruins and Sabres, as some attempt at saying you were right. Despite the fact that the Leafs were closer to the Bruins/Sabres in the standings, at the time.

Fast forward a couple of weeks, and the Leafs are a hell of a lot closer to the Bruins/Sabres than they are to the basement Sens, even in terms of the sports club stats odds. Oh, and lead the division.
- prock

And that is nature of predictions, and now you can have some fun pointing out where the predictions are not quite as accurate as expected. Kinda like how you predicted Michalek could not become a top six forward, and you wouldn't want him scoring goals for toronto.

In what sense? I've clearly said from the start that the Sens are not playoff bound.



I also pegged the leafs to just miss or barely make the playoffs. It was a prediction before the season started.

You made your fair share of predictions, how are they working out? Let's look at what you said about Michalek.


3rd overall BOSTON .659
9th overall toronto .625
17th overall BUFFALO .563
20th overall OTTAWA .542
23rd overall MONTREAL .500
- Doppleganger

You sure about this?

Quote from juuuust before the season started:

With the Senator Roookies set to face off in mere moments, at the Rookie tournament in London.........I thought it was time to see where people (sens fans) think their team, sits within the North East Division.

Teams that I think are weaker than last season; the Canadiens dealt away their best player in the playoffs last season and are going with a yet to proven back up as their starter. Price started 41 games last season and only turned in 13 wins. This, to me means the Canadiens will still be in and around the 7th or 8th seed come the end of the regular season.

Teams that I think are stronger than last season; The Bruins with former leaf Rask being the starter from day one, and with former leaf first rounder Seguin and recently acquired Horton, I see the Bruins being a better team all around. The leafs had no where to go but up, so they should be a better team as well.

Teams that I feel are in the same place as last season; the Sabres and the Senators. The Sabres finished first in the Division and I see that happening again, as Ryan Miller is probably the best goaltender in the Division and perhaps the NHL. The Senators brought in Gonchar, lost Volchenkov so six eggs for a half a dozen. A full season from Kuba and Karlsson should make the defense better over all when compared to last season. A couple of key players in "contract years" should push them to be better than last season.

Which teams finish in the playoff?? The Bruins, Sabres and the Senators. Which teams are bubble teams?? The Canadiens, they've nabbed the eighth seed in the conference in the last week in the last two seasons and they should be there again. Which team does not make the playoffs?? The leafs.
- Doppleganger

You sure about this?

Quote from juuuust before the season started:




- mfreedman

You sure about this?

Quote from juuuust before the season started:




- mfreedman

Yeah, juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust before the 2010/2011 season started.

And the leafs did not make the playoffs.


So thanks for pointing out my prediction was bang on!!


Nice try at spin dude. You selected quote from one year ago. Note - the quote refers to the Rookie tournament in London back in 2010, this years tournament was in Oshawa.

I hope this was an honest mistake, rather than a deliberate troll tactic, that I would not expect of you.

We'll see if you admit to a mistake.

Yeah, juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust before the 2010/2011 season started.

And the leafs did not make the playoffs.


So thanks for pointing out my prediction was bang on!!


Nice try at spin dude. You selected quote from one year ago. Note - the quote refers to the Rookie tournament in London back in 2010, this years tournament was in Oshawa.

I hope this was an honest mistake, rather than a deliberate troll tactic, that I would not expect of you.

We'll see if you admit to a mistake.
- Doppleganger

Yep, Clicked ont he wrong one. Didn't realize there were 2 of the same thread.

But, just dug up something else I found interesting.

Again I stated "every forward" except one in the past two seasons. I'm talking about current roster forwards.........................why am I wasting my time with you???

In any case, the leafs don't need another forward that has averaged 20 goals in 66 games for the past two season, they have such a lethal line up and will undoubtedly lead the league in goals.
- Doppleganger

You were bang on so far, I have to give you credit

Yep, Clicked ont he wrong one. Didn't realize there were 2 of the same thread.

But, just dug up something else I found interesting.



You were bang on so far, I have to give you credit
- mfreedman

Third in goals per game, not quite leading the league, but I guess close enough for you to save some face after your earlier blunder.