An injured Reimer wasn't the reason they were out-shot and only scored two goals on a garbage team.
- Asquaredx2

He was the reason that garbage team wasn't shutout.

Prock you are the man

He was the reason that garbage team wasn't shutout.
- prock

Just like he was in the first meeting between the two teams this year.

EDIT: And if the Leafs were missing their number one, the Sens were playing their third-stringer and missing two-thirds of their second line.

Just like he was in the first meeting between the two teams this year.

EDIT: And if the Leafs were missing their number one, the Sens were playing their third-stringer and missing two-thirds of their second line.
- Asquaredx2

Don't be ridiculous. They don't have a second line. They have parts of a first line, and 3 fourth lines.

Don't be ridiculous. They don't have a second line. They have parts of a first line, and 3 fourth lines.
- prock

Is this a setup? This feels like a setup...

Wow, Ottawa with a roster that includes two of the top seven scoring leaders, and is number 1 in the the league PP% is BS???

While toronto has one player in the top 15 scoring leaders and is 17th in PP% is better???
- Doppleganger

Toronto has 1 player in the top-1, Ottawa has 0.

Toronto has 1 player in the top-1, Ottawa has 0.
- Schenn-Sational!

It's absolutely amazing how he interprets stats. Anyone can do the same. For instance:

Toronto:

- has the leading scorer in the league
- We have a defence with the 2nd highest +/- out of all defencemen, and he also happens to be tied for 4th overall for the most points by a defenceman
- Reimer is one of only 2 goalies in the league that has played 5 or more games and still doesn't have a regulation loss

Whereas Ottawa:

- Has a forward (Greening) with the 5th worst +/- in the league for forwards
- Anderson has the 2nd worst save % of any goalie that has played more than 5 games

It is very easy to try and make stats represent whatever your point is when you leave key pieces off the table.

Stop trying Dopple, your arguments are terrible, and most people don't take them seriously for that reason

Stop trying Dopple, your arguments are terrible, and most people don't take them seriously for that reason
- mfreedman

Seriously - we Sens fans KNOW we're rebuilding. We KNOW our team is going to suck this year. We've established this. Discussed it ad nauseum. And yet we seem compelled to argue anyone (especially you Leafies) who state the slightest negative fact. Hell, we suffer a mini-stroke if you say anything GOOD about your OWN team! Holy crap!

I swear, our recent winning streak has driven our fans squirrely.

Seriously - we Sens fans KNOW we're rebuilding. We KNOW our team is going to suck this year. We've established this. Discussed it ad nauseum. And yet we seem compelled to argue anyone (especially you Leafies) who state the slightest negative fact. Hell, we suffer a mini-stroke if you say anything GOOD about your OWN team! Holy crap!

I swear, our recent winning streak has driven our fans squirrely.
- Mr_Squeaks

I personally try to argue the good points for Ottawa. I am as much of a fan as I can be of a team that is a direct rival of the Leafs. I watch a ton of your games, and I enjoy the new team that is being developed.

I have stated a ton that I am a fan of what you are accomplishing this year, and I think you have a chance of being competative sooner than later.

Then Dopple comes in and starts spewing out constant garbage. He is the worst one on this site and makes almost no sense in his posts. He also tries to target the leafs with every point he makes, and I use the word 'target' loosely, as his points are usually poorly conceived and stated worse.

Spasto is also annoying, but only because he claims to be a leaf fan and a sens fan, but cannot say one thing positive about a team in the top 3 currently, but has only good things to say about a team destined to finish in the bottom 10 at the end of the season.

I would love to see some sensible Sens fans on here, but currently these 2 make up the majority of the conversations and make it difficult to actually discuss hockey.

Hopefully you cna understand my frustration.

Hopefully you cna understand my frustration.
- mfreedman

I do.

Don't be ridiculous. They don't have a second line. They have parts of a first line, and 3 fourth lines.
- prock

So how the hell did the Leafs allow them to out-shoot and out-score them?

So how the hell did the Leafs allow them to out-shoot and out-score them?
- Asquaredx2

Gustavsson!

It's absolutely amazing how he interprets stats. Anyone can do the same. For instance:

Toronto:

- has the leading scorer in the league
- We have a defence with the 2nd highest +/- out of all defencemen, and he also happens to be tied for 4th overall for the most points by a defenceman
- Reimer is one of only 2 goalies in the league that has played 5 or more games and still doesn't have a regulation loss

Whereas Ottawa:

- Has a forward (Greening) with the 5th worst +/- in the league for forwards
- Anderson has the 2nd worst save % of any goalie that has played more than 5 games

It is very easy to try and make stats represent whatever your point is when you leave key pieces off the table.

Stop trying Dopple, your arguments are terrible, and most people don't take them seriously for that reason
- mfreedman

What arguments are you talking about?

What arguments are you talking about?
- Doppleganger

I know they are hard to spot bcause of how poorly they are stated, but everything you state can be interpreted as an argument with someone.

Anyways, I am done with this thread, you ruin them all

I know they are hard to spot bcause of how poorly they are stated, but everything you state can be interpreted as an argument with someone.

Anyways, I am done with this thread, you ruin them all
- mfreedman

I thought as much, you throw out an unfounded accusation, and when called on it, you bail.

perhaps you should back up what you accuse people about.

I thought as much, you throw out an unfounded accusation, and when called on it, you bail.

perhaps you should back up what you accuse people about.
- Doppleganger

Argument Quote #1:

"Cowen is a defenceman, not a goaltender. He's in the NHL after playing in junior last year, while Kadri is struggling in his second AHL season.................great pick!!!"

Argument Quote #2:

"Wow, Ottawa with a roster that includes two of the top seven scoring leaders, and is number 1 in the the league PP% is BS???

While toronto has one player in the top 15 scoring leaders and is 17th in PP% is better???"

Argument Quote #3:

"Dude, you're not in any position to talk smack about a team with a higher P% than the team you cheer for.

OTTAWA .545
MONTREAL .455"

Argument Quote #3:

"I shows you don't know what you're talking about, Ottawa is older than Montreal, playing more consistent hockey than Montreal, is higher in the standing than Montreal, and it's "ugly" in Montreal right now and not so in Ottawa. "

Argument Quote #4:

"I thought as much, you throw out an unfounded accusation, and when called on it, you bail.

perhaps you should back up what you accuse people about."

Took all of 2 minutes in only one thread.

You are an idiot, plain and simple. The sooner you accept this, the happier you will be.

Gustavsson!
- prock

Meant the Leafs couldn't muster up more than two goals for against a 20-year-old? Is Reimer also their first-line centre?

Meant the Leafs couldn't muster up more than two goals for against a 20-year-old? Is Reimer also their first-line centre?
- Asquaredx2

He's good enough to do it. But he's injured.

Do you think the Sens will be 3 points back of the Leafs after tonight, or 5?

Argument Quote #1:

"Cowen is a defenceman, not a goaltender. He's in the NHL after playing in junior last year, while Kadri is struggling in his second AHL season.................great pick!!!"

Argument Quote #2:

"Wow, Ottawa with a roster that includes two of the top seven scoring leaders, and is number 1 in the the league PP% is BS???

While toronto has one player in the top 15 scoring leaders and is 17th in PP% is better???"

Argument Quote #3:

"Dude, you're not in any position to talk smack about a team with a higher P% than the team you cheer for.

OTTAWA .545
MONTREAL .455"

Argument Quote #3:

"I shows you don't know what you're talking about, Ottawa is older than Montreal, playing more consistent hockey than Montreal, is higher in the standing than Montreal, and it's "ugly" in Montreal right now and not so in Ottawa. "

Argument Quote #4:

"I thought as much, you throw out an unfounded accusation, and when called on it, you bail.

perhaps you should back up what you accuse people about."

Took all of 2 minutes in only one thread.

You are an idiot, plain and simple. The sooner you accept this, the happier you will be.
- mfreedman

I don't get your point.
1. Cowen is playing full time in the NHL, top four and PK, Kadri is still in the AHL. This is true, so what do you think is wrong with that statement?

2.prock claims the Senators have a "horsesyht" line up. This line up beat the Mighty leafs, so how can this be?

3. Responded to a habs fan running smack on the Senators, despite the Senators being ahead of them in the Division...........called him out, nothing wrong with that.

4. You stated "Stop trying Dopple, your arguments are terrible, and most people don't take them seriously for that reason" none of your examples are "arguments" but statement of facts or opinion. You wasted 2 minutes, and proved SFA.

nice try weakling.

I don't get your point.
1. Cowen is playing full time in the NHL, top four and PK, Kadri is still in the AHL. This is true, so what do you think is wrong with that statement?

2.prock claims the Senators have a "horsesyht" line up. This line up beat the Mighty leafs, so how can this be?

3. Responded to a habs fan running smack on the Senators, despite the Senators being ahead of them in the Division...........called him out, nothing wrong with that.

4. You stated "Stop trying Dopple, your arguments are terrible, and most people don't take them seriously for that reason" none of your examples are "arguments" but statement of facts or opinion. You wasted 2 minutes, and proved SFA.

nice try weakling.
- Doppleganger

It's not a surprise that you don't get a point.



But you are right, he did waste his time, what's the point of proving something everyone knows?

It's not a surprise that you don't get a point.



But you are right, he did waste his time, what's the point of proving something everyone knows?
- Schenn-Sational!

By "everyone" you are only referring to those leaf fans, who are card carrying members of the leaf troll patrol, who troll though the Senator forum threads, and threads where fans of other teams, who dare to challenge the trolls (of the leaf troll patrol) in attempted discussions concerning what they see as attacks on the great leaf nation.

Their captain is old and decrepid. He's really a notable player anymore. I'm not sure why you bring it up.
- prock

leaf fan, trolling in the Senators forum?

I know they are hard to spot bcause of how poorly they are stated, but everything you state can be interpreted as an argument with someone.

Anyways, I am done with this thread, you ruin them all
- mfreedman

leaf fan, trolling in the Senators forum?

By "everyone" you are only referring to those leaf fans, who are card carrying members of the leaf troll patrol, who troll though the Senator forum threads, and threads where fans of other teams, who dare to challenge the trolls (of the leaf troll patrol) in attempted discussions concerning what they see as attacks on the great leaf nation.
- Doppleganger

What about sens fans who admit they're embarrassed by you? And fans of other teams, like Edmonton, anaheim, Philadelphia, montreal, etc. who laugh at the idiocy of your comments?


Are they also just a part of the "leafs troll patrol"?

Just like he was in the first meeting between the two teams this year.

EDIT: And if the Leafs were missing their number one, the Sens were playing their third-stringer and missing two-thirds of their second line.
- Asquaredx2

Gus may be the official #2, but in reality, he's 4th or lower.